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[Harmless Citizen]

Ah laws dis tread.

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

...You say that like there's something wrong with her not wanting to have alliance breathing down her neck.

Yes and you play the obsessed fanboy very very well.

You say that like it's totally OK to keep an information that there might be a chance to save someone's loved one to yourself.

And sweetie, I'm at least consistient. You on the other hand, who are you fan of this week?

[Ryzaki]

When that information is because you worked with a terrorist organization that said loved one is strictly against then yes it is okay to keep it to yourself. Especially since you have no guarantee said procedure even worked. (and by the time she has that guarantee the VS is undercover).

Consistent? Oh yes I forgot. In Issac world you can never never never ever ever change your mind about a character. Nope. Not allowed. Humans do not change or see things from new perspectives.

What a boring world you live in.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 novembre 2011 - 08:59 .

[shepskisaac]

Yeah, it's just better to let VS suffer.

And sure it's allowed to change an opinion. When it's honest, unlike in your case lol

[Ryzaki]

Instead of reopening wounds when they're moving on with hope that might be false? Yes of course.

Cruel is a matter of perspective.

Ah Issac. How cute. You keep believing anyone who doesn't like the VS is crusading as much as you are. It's amusing.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 novembre 2011 - 09:10 .

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

Instead of reopening wounds when they're moving on with hope that might be false? Yes of course.

Yes because the VS already started moving on in the few hours/days it took to get Shep to Cerberus which makes Liara learn there's a big chance Shep will live.

Ryzaki wrote...

Ah Issac. How cute. You keep believing anyone who doesn't like the VS is crusading as much as you are. It's amusing.

Not at all. I just don't believe you

Modifié par IsaacShep, 28 novembre 2011 - 09:13 .

[Ryzaki]

IsaacShep wrote..Yes because the VS already started moving on in the few hours/days it took to get Shep to Cerberus which makes Liara learn there's a big chance Shep will live.

Yeah that/'s where the "Oops I gave your boyfriend to a bunch of psycho terrorists that may have emotionally scarred him to begin with on the off and extremely unlikely chance they can revive him." part comes in.

It's perfectly understandable why she didn't tell them. It may not be the nicest thing but it's understandable. It would've lead to a conflict of interest. What if they wanted to remove the body from Cerberus before shep was revived? I can see why she'd think it better to keep it a secret.

Ah Issac. It's quite possible for someone to start disliking a character after replaying a game (or to start liking them when they've previously disliked them). It happens pretty often for me. (didn't like Sten and Shale at first, grew to adore them, kind of liked Zev at first grew to loathe him) more replays offer more facets of each character.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 novembre 2011 - 09:19 .

[Harmless Citizen]

Didn't like Sten and Shale? What blasphemy am I reading.

[shepskisaac]

Ryzaki wrote...

It's perfectly understandable why she didn't tell them. It may not be the nicest thing but it's understandable.

Not in my opinion. Not changing it. To me, selfishness came into her decision to not inform VS.

[solvill]

In game there is no option to tell VS that its over but u can talk to Kelly, TIM and Joker about it u can state if u r over ur LI or not i think that should matter in ME3 since the devs didn't give the clear option to break with them in ME2

[Ryzaki]

Random Nobody wrote...

Didn't like Sten and Shale? What blasphemy am I reading.

Yup I totally didn't like the two of them my first run through.

Total
blasphemy but yes. I adore the two of them now. So much so that I'll
play a mage just to have them and Alistair all in the same party. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]
 (even though I prefer my 2HD warriors)


@Issac: Alright. That's how you see it. As far as my Shep's concerned Liara was justified.

Now taking his body and giving it to Cerberus in the first place is where he wants to strangle her. He was enjoying his death thank you very much. Even got to see his dead long lost love again and then ruined at the last moment by seeing miranda's mug in his view. The cruelty.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 novembre 2011 - 09:24 .

[Harmless Citizen]

I can't doubt your dedication, then. It's the most game breaking class in the game, but I would rather slap my own teeth out than play mage.

[jeweledleah]

Random Nobody wrote...

I can't doubt your dedication, then. It's the most game breaking class in the game, but I would rather slap my own teeth out than play mage.

mages are ridiculously OP in DAO.  I normaly don't like playing mages but DAO... even someone as bad at video games as me does well.  Alistait, Sten and Shale - team sarcastic deapan

on a different note

/munches popcorn.
/cackles.

[Ryzaki]

Random Nobody wrote...

I can't doubt your dedication, then. It's the most game breaking class in the game, but I would rather slap my own teeth out than play mage.

Plus I'm stuck in either a skirt or something that looks dangerously like fetish gear most of the game D: 

[Harmless Citizen]

I don't care what anyone says. The pope hats where hot.

People wouldn't know avant garde if it hit them with a stonefist.

[CptData]

Nice. I disappear for some R/L stuff and when I come back, I find myself in a full blown flamewar here ... O.o

Seriously guys, I need to repost my conclusion:

It is up to to player to decide if Shepard cheats on the VS or not when going for another relationship. It depends on your PoV. If you say you want to continue that relationship with the VS and don't go for another LI, you're loyal. If you say you want to continue that relationship with the VS and pick another LI in ME2, you're cheating. If you see death and / or Horizon as break up, then you can "move on" and therefore don't cheat.

[spirosz]

CptData wrote...

Nice. I disappear for some R/L stuff and when I come back, I find myself in a full blown flamewar here ... O.o

Seriously guys, I need to repost my conclusion:

It is up to to player to decide if Shepard cheats on the VS or not when going for another relationship. It depends on your PoV. If you say you want to continue that relationship with the VS and don't go for another LI, you're loyal. If you say you want to continue that relationship with the VS and pick another LI in ME2, you're cheating. If you see death and / or Horizon as break up, then you can "move on" and therefore don't cheat.

Why is this so hard for some people to understand? 

[AlexMBrennan]

Since shapeshifter and spirit healer both kinda suck you can play an arcane bloodmage without penalty and wear regular armour.

[Ryzaki]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Since shapeshifter and spirit healer both kinda suck you can play an arcane bloodmage without penalty and wear regular armour.

I have the same issue with BM in DAO as I do in DA2. No one calls you out for using it.

[Yezdigerd]

Anyway the thread was about cheating. Even if the VS conduct had been pleasant and common sense, instead of of offensive and hilariously senseless, it's moving on, not cheating. Cheating implies deception within a comittment. Shep tells no lies, relationships ends all the time when people drift apart.

[jeweledleah]

spiros9110 wrote...

CptData wrote...

Nice. I disappear for some R/L stuff and when I come back, I find myself in a full blown flamewar here ... O.o

Seriously guys, I need to repost my conclusion:

It is up to to player to decide if Shepard cheats on the VS or not when going for another relationship. It depends on your PoV. If you say you want to continue that relationship with the VS and don't go for another LI, you're loyal. If you say you want to continue that relationship with the VS and pick another LI in ME2, you're cheating. If you see death and / or Horizon as break up, then you can "move on" and therefore don't cheat.

Why is this so hard for some people to understand? 

because bioware keeps using cheating when talking about the situation.  personaly - I don't think it can be defined as cheating.  but Shepard could FEEL like they are cheating. 

about mage hats and fetish wear - Dalish rogue leathers >_>  and I got the hide helmet mod as soon as i could and never looked back O_O

[Dean_the_Young]

When has Bioware, as opposed to fans, called it cheating?

[Chun Hei]

Even if you remove the whole "I cannot believe the VS did not follow me blindly!" charge it was pretty clear that VS considers the relationship over although s/he did send a letter saying reconciliation was possible. That is why I do not think there will be a bunch of fighting if s/he finds out you picked a new LI in ME2. Unless you want to have it both ways. Even Liara got over it in LotSB if you play it after beating ME2.

[Xilizhra]

Random Nobody wrote...

Didn't like Sten and Shale? What blasphemy am I reading.

They're both total bastards, the main difference being that it's Sten's job while Shale is just kinda like that.

[Chun Hei]

Ryzaki wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Since shapeshifter and spirit healer both kinda suck you can play an arcane bloodmage without penalty and wear regular armour.

I have the same issue with BM in DAO as I do in DA2. No one calls you out for using it.

I thought Wynne calls you out on it if you use it in her presense?