Modifié par Dasher1010, 29 novembre 2011 - 09:00 .
Since EA are now mandating multiplayer in everything
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Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 08:59
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Guest_simfamUP_*
Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 12:06
Guest_simfamUP_*
I just realised that co-op and multiplayer are different things xD no wonder I was confused to why people didn't want it, as I assumed everybody (the vast majority) enjoyed BG's co-op.
#3
Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 12:24
#4
Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 01:49
#5
Guest_simfamUP_*
Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 02:09
Guest_simfamUP_*
Wulfram wrote...
I would guess that the vast majority never played BG2 co-op. And most of those that did probably only used it as a way to have more than one player created character.
Ok sorry, my wording wasn't as I wanted it to be.
What I meant that the vast majority enjoyed BG, which had co-op, so it didn't effect the game as an RPG. The biggest complaint I've heard from 'multiplayer' is that it would.
#6
Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 02:52
simfamSP wrote...
Ok sorry, my wording wasn't as I wanted it to be.
What I meant that the vast majority enjoyed BG, which had co-op, so it didn't effect the game as an RPG. The biggest complaint I've heard from 'multiplayer' is that it would.
But you also have to figure that BG2 was made back when games were a lot cheaper to make, when including a co-op multiplayer option wasn't a terribly expensive proposition.
Trying to put MP into a current generation, supposedly "AAA" type game would likely be a much more expensive proposition. Especially when the DA devs have said the current iteration of DA's engine doesn't support multiplayer.
#7
Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 08:03
simfamSP wrote...
What I meant that the vast majority enjoyed BG, which had co-op,
And the co-op option in BG or Icewind Dale for that matter was neither a requirement nor a core mechanic. But if you look at nowdays games, there is always something that does force you to take part in a multiplayer experiance.
And from my experiance and those of my friends, who all played BG when it came out, i have to say:
The majority of the time we didn't play as co-op, we did use to do it, when we would meet uup for a lan-party every once in a while, but neither of us was really interested in having a co-op feature about this game. Its a roleplaying game for <whatever god or prophet you believe in> sake. Its about experiancing a story and having fun on the ride.
BG wasn't that famous or great because it had Co-Op, that was completely and utterly unimportant and insignificant to why these games are still among the top10 of the best Roleplaying games of all times.
And as far as more simple goes.... i take a story options and storytelling like BG and all the choices you had and the depth of play as well as the time it took you to finish the game... over fancy graphics any day. This isn't a FPS, and while i do like photorealistic graphics, thats not what i buy Roleplaying games for, nor does it add a lot to my 'enjoyment' of the game. (If it has both, of course, its even better)
Story and interativity is more important than tech and graphics, and thats why BG was so famous and is still so great. And for much the same reason i do load up my Dosbox playing games from last century which don't even run on windows, rather than installing one of the newer more graphical appealing games, if i am feeling bored and want some good and solid entertainment.
#8
Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 11:43
#9
Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 11:47
#10
Posté 29 novembre 2011 - 11:52
Brockololly wrote...
DA devs have said the current iteration of DA's engine doesn't support multiplayer.
I would be interesting in knowing if Legends actually sates EA's mandate or not. Considering that it gives you in-game items.
#11
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 12:07
http://kotaku.com/58...ing-multiplayer
#12
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 12:11
#13
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 12:45
annihilator27 wrote...
This Is a rumor,So take It with a grain a salt.....Like the ME3 MP rumors lol.
http://kotaku.com/58...ing-multiplayer
That sounds so crazy I actually hope it's true. Especially if that would mean Frostbite 2 for DA3 as well.
Modifié par Cribbian, 30 novembre 2011 - 12:46 .
#14
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 02:35
Cribbian wrote...
annihilator27 wrote...
This Is a rumor,So take It with a grain a salt.....Like the ME3 MP rumors lol.
http://kotaku.com/58...ing-multiplayer
That sounds so crazy I actually hope it's true. Especially if that would mean Frostbite 2 for DA3 as well.
So what, Dragon Age 3 is going to be a 1st person co-op shooter? Not interested!
Bioware is truly losing their way with Dragon Age...
Modifié par Dubya75, 30 novembre 2011 - 02:40 .
#15
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 02:38
NWN1's multiplayer option (including the ability to act as a Dungeonmaster for the party, or even the game being run as a persistent world for a semi-MMO like gameplay experience - I've played on an NWN roleplaying server for many years) and its easy to use toolset have increased that game's lifetime by many years. The community has churned out literally thousands of free adventures and modifications, including entire campaigns you could play in co-op with a couple friends. Good times.
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Guest_Blanchefleur_*
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 02:58
Guest_Blanchefleur_*
#17
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 03:02
annihilator27 wrote...
This Is a rumor,So take It with a grain a salt.....Like the ME3 MP rumors lol.
http://kotaku.com/58...ing-multiplayer
After DA2, which was a good enough game (but pales in comparison to DA:O), I can't say I'm surprised.
I'm not one for dramatics, but if this rumor turns out to be true I seriously doubt I'll pick up DA3.
Modifié par GraciousCat, 30 novembre 2011 - 03:03 .
#18
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 03:11
#19
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 03:12
#20
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 03:17
I'd be the last one to complain about a good multiplayer option like NWN's, but that stuff won't happen anymore these days. The Mass Effect multiplayer adds nothing worthwhile, and a MMO will ruin the Dragon Age series completely (as if DA2 hadn't done enough damage already).
#21
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 03:42
I don't understand bioware.. if they had so much resources why DA2 is so.. poor of everything ( without dlc) why the act 3 end is such a piece of #$@?
Oh well I suppose is time to move to another lands as soon as multiplayer for dragon age series is announced , I do like Thedas and totally in love with ferelden but.. diablo3 sounds much better in that field and is new.
Head up! if this new DA has multiplayer and pvp.. if the kid's do not win in pvp or have the best pvp items you're game is doomed with nerf and more whines, this time is not about mute or voiced character, this time is going to be about rogues killing casters too fast or about warriors not hitting hard enough, never mind that armor reduce damage for warrior or that rogues are suppose to kick the casters arse... meh.
So if bioware is smart it should start by giving the young players pvp set items and gold.. yes they love not to have to work for anything! ( thats the only way to get 11 million players, ask any Warcraft player...) Meh.
#22
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 04:14
#23
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 04:22
#24
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 04:28
Ramus Quaritch wrote...
I should have seen this coming after EA bought Bioware. I sort of did but didn't want to believe it. This reeks of EA and I really don't like every game having multiplayer. I know this horse has been beaten to death, but Skyrim is proof you don't need multiplayer. Learn from that.
Indeed, and i too have the game but skyrim is missing what DA offers, "life" like companions and main character, if for a week skyrim get DA characters...
Skyrim is such a huge world, so many intersting places and yet I get bored 99% of the time, the companion clearing her throat is making me.. wanting to hurt her bad, am I suppose to kill her as a champion/hero? meh. Any way I probably leave this game company if this is true and da goes to the sh*ts with multiplayers.
#25
Posté 30 novembre 2011 - 04:29
Dasher1010 wrote...
My hope is that instead of a horrible tacked-on mode that has nothing to do with the campaign that we get a return to BG2 style co-op.
When I heard about the possibility of DA3 having multiplayer, I thought the opposite to you. I thought I guess multiplayer will be ok as long as it's not tied in to singleplayer in any way. So if it's bad, I can forget about it; if it's good, I can play it as well as single player.
I'd hate to have to play multiplayer in order to get the most out of single player. I might be misremembering, but single player in ME3 will be too heavily tied in to multiplayer, which puts me off that game quite a bit. A singleplayer and multiplayer component is the way to go, if at all, just like, say, Battlefield 3.





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