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Dasher1010

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My hope is that instead of a horrible tacked-on mode that has nothing to do with the campaign that we get a return to BG2 style co-op. Players can import their PC into another player's party. Both lost out on an NPC that can provice story content and one player is muted in conversations but it's still great for nostalgia reasons and because it'll be a seubstantialedition to the game. Also, four PC mages all running around is going to be awesome.

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HAH!

I just realised that co-op and multiplayer are different things xD no wonder I was confused to why people didn't want it, as I assumed everybody (the vast majority) enjoyed BG's co-op.

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I would guess that the vast majority never played BG2 co-op. And most of those that did probably only used it as a way to have more than one player created character.

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The only way I'd see multiplayer in Dragon Age is the way they've done it in White Knight Chronicles 1 & 2. Forming guilds or groups of people online to do quests that aren't mandatory for the storyline or doing them offline without going in multiplayer mode. As long as it unlocks better equipment stronger mobs and challenging quests, I'm in.

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Wulfram wrote...

I would guess that the vast majority never played BG2 co-op. And most of those that did probably only used it as a way to have more than one player created character.


Ok sorry, my wording wasn't as I wanted it to be.

What I meant that the vast majority enjoyed BG, which had co-op, so it didn't effect the game as an RPG. The biggest complaint I've heard from 'multiplayer' is that it would.

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simfamSP wrote...
Ok sorry, my wording wasn't as I wanted it to be.

What I meant that the vast majority enjoyed BG, which had co-op, so it didn't effect the game as an RPG. The biggest complaint I've heard from 'multiplayer' is that it would.


But you also have to figure that BG2 was made back when games were a lot cheaper to make, when including a co-op multiplayer option wasn't a terribly expensive proposition.

Trying to put MP into a current generation, supposedly "AAA" type game would likely be a much more expensive proposition. Especially when the DA devs have said the current iteration of DA's engine doesn't support multiplayer.

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simfamSP wrote...

What I meant that the vast majority enjoyed BG, which had co-op,


And the co-op option in BG or Icewind Dale for that matter was neither a requirement nor a core mechanic. But if you look at nowdays games, there is always something that does force you to take part in a multiplayer experiance.

And from my experiance and those of my friends, who all played BG when it came out, i have to say:

The majority of the time we didn't play as co-op, we did use to do it, when we would meet uup for a lan-party every once in a while, but neither of us was really interested in having a co-op feature about this game. Its a roleplaying game for <whatever god or prophet you believe in> sake. Its about experiancing a story and having fun on the ride.

BG wasn't that famous or great because it had Co-Op, that was completely and utterly unimportant and insignificant to why these games are still among the top10 of the best Roleplaying games of all times.


And as far as more simple goes.... i take a story options and storytelling like BG and all the choices you had and the depth of play as well as the time it took you to finish the game... over fancy graphics any day. This isn't a FPS, and while i do like photorealistic graphics, thats not what i buy Roleplaying games for, nor does it add a lot to my 'enjoyment' of the game. (If it has both, of course, its even better)

Story and interativity is more important than tech and graphics, and thats why BG was so famous and is still so great. And for much the same reason i do load up my Dosbox playing games from last century which don't even run on windows, rather than installing one of the newer more graphical appealing games, if i am feeling bored and want some good and solid entertainment.

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I'm pretty much done with EA, I think. I suppose it sorta depends on Bioware and DA3, but I have a feeling they're going for the marketing morons' DA style, so the chance of not having to mess with Origin is pretty good, I think.

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I really can't see it for Dragon Age. At least not as a full-featured thing that's in with the plot. If it was a standalone mode or something that's one thing, but the type of game DA is just doesn't make sense in an online setting when you take the story into consideration.

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Brockololly wrote...
DA devs have said the current iteration of DA's engine doesn't support multiplayer.


I would be interesting in knowing if Legends actually sates EA's mandate or not. Considering that it gives you in-game items.

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Annihilator27

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This Is a rumor,So take It with a grain a salt.....Like the ME3 MP rumors lol.

http://kotaku.com/58...ing-multiplayer

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dielveio

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Well, the next thing will be a mmorpg or a shooter.

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annihilator27 wrote...

This Is a rumor,So take It with a grain a salt.....Like the ME3 MP rumors lol.

http://kotaku.com/58...ing-multiplayer


That sounds so crazy I actually hope it's true. Especially if that would mean Frostbite 2 for DA3 as well.

Modifié par Cribbian, 30 novembre 2011 - 12:46 .


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Cribbian wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

This Is a rumor,So take It with a grain a salt.....Like the ME3 MP rumors lol.

http://kotaku.com/58...ing-multiplayer


That sounds so crazy I actually hope it's true. Especially if that would mean Frostbite 2 for DA3 as well.


So what, Dragon Age 3 is going to be a 1st person co-op shooter? Not interested!

Bioware is truly losing their way with Dragon Age...

Modifié par Dubya75, 30 novembre 2011 - 02:40 .


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Dragon Age 3, Neverwinter Nights-style. DO WANT! :P

NWN1's multiplayer option (including the ability to act as a Dungeonmaster for the party, or even the game being run as a persistent world for a semi-MMO like gameplay experience - I've played on an NWN roleplaying server for many years) and its easy to use toolset have increased that game's lifetime by many years. The community has churned out literally thousands of free adventures and modifications, including entire campaigns you could play in co-op with a couple friends. Good times.

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If this turns out to be true I will be really dissapointed with BioWare, more so then I have been after the whole Felicia Day crap and ME3 multiplayer announcement. I'm so glad that Bethesda with their Elder Scrolls and Fallout games have stayed away from multiplayer, and those games sells like hotcakes. Multiplayer doesn't make a game better.

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annihilator27 wrote...

This Is a rumor,So take It with a grain a salt.....Like the ME3 MP rumors lol.

http://kotaku.com/58...ing-multiplayer


After DA2, which was a good enough game (but pales in comparison to DA:O), I can't say I'm surprised. 
I'm not one for dramatics, but if this rumor turns out to be true I seriously doubt I'll pick up DA3.

Modifié par GraciousCat, 30 novembre 2011 - 03:03 .


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Jamie_edmo

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DA3 using Frostbite 2 sounds good, even if I cant really see it being true, multiplayer not for me, but like others have said bioware have had multiplayer before in past games.

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Now you can press awesome buttons with more friends around! Wooooooooooo!

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Multiplayer isn't about making a game better anymore these days, it's simply to even make the console crowd register their games to a personal account and preventing them from reselling. ME3's multiplayer doesn't look like it adds anything more than an hour of "Looks okay, I'll try that and sign up"... "blah, not worth my time, I'll sell the game... DANG!"

I'd be the last one to complain about a good multiplayer option like NWN's, but that stuff won't happen anymore these days. The Mass Effect multiplayer adds nothing worthwhile, and a MMO will ruin the Dragon Age series completely (as if DA2 hadn't done enough damage already).

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Well kiss adult content ass good bye! hello kitty island! or dead unicorns park adventures!.. gosh now I know why so many pools about killing children in games comes from.

I don't understand bioware.. if they had so much resources why DA2 is so.. poor of everything ( without dlc) why the act 3 end is such a piece of #$@?
Oh well I suppose is time to move to another lands as soon as multiplayer for dragon age series is announced , I do like Thedas and totally in love with ferelden but.. diablo3 sounds much better in that field and is new.

Head up! if this new DA has multiplayer and pvp.. if the kid's do not win in pvp or have the best pvp items you're game is doomed with nerf and more whines, this time is not about mute or voiced character, this time is going to be about rogues killing casters too fast or about warriors not hitting hard enough, never mind that armor reduce damage for warrior or that rogues are suppose to kick the casters arse... meh.
So if bioware is smart it should start by giving the young players pvp set items and gold.. yes they love not to have to work for anything! ( thats the only way to get 11 million players, ask any Warcraft player...) Meh.

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I should have seen this coming after EA bought Bioware. I sort of did but didn't want to believe it. This reeks of EA and I really don't like every game having multiplayer. I know this horse has been beaten to death, but Skyrim is proof you don't need multiplayer. Learn from that.

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Skyrim, ME1, ME2, DA:O, DA2 are all games that are proof you don't need Multiplayer to be successful. Hell look at many of the japanese games that are single player. Lost Odyssey, Final Fantasy XIII and XIII-2, Blue Dragon... There are tons of games out there that don't need a Multi-player or co-op experience to be good and successful.

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Ramus Quaritch wrote...

I should have seen this coming after EA bought Bioware. I sort of did but didn't want to believe it. This reeks of EA and I really don't like every game having multiplayer. I know this horse has been beaten to death, but Skyrim is proof you don't need multiplayer. Learn from that.


Indeed, and i too have the game but skyrim is missing what DA offers, "life" like companions and main character, if for a week  skyrim get DA characters...:wub:
Skyrim is such a huge world, so many intersting places and yet I get bored 99% of the time, the companion clearing her throat is making me.. wanting to hurt her bad, am I suppose to kill her as a champion/hero? meh. Any way I probably leave this game company if this is true and da goes to the sh*ts with multiplayers.:(

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Dasher1010 wrote...

My hope is that instead of a horrible tacked-on mode that has nothing to do with the campaign that we get a return to BG2 style co-op.


When I heard about the possibility of DA3 having multiplayer, I thought the opposite to you. I thought I guess multiplayer will be ok as long as it's not tied in to singleplayer in any way. So if it's bad, I can forget about it; if it's good, I can play it as well as single player.

I'd hate to have to play multiplayer in order to get the most out of single player. I might be misremembering, but single player in ME3 will be too heavily tied in to multiplayer, which puts me off that game quite a bit. A singleplayer and multiplayer component is the way to go, if at all, just like, say, Battlefield 3.