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[chris2365]

Neoseeker just posted an article on ME3. While it talks about the Citadel's cut content in ME2, lead writer Mac Walters also shares a few of his thoughts: http://www.neoseeker...fect-2-mission/

Interestingly, Walters also admitted that the suicide mission at the end of Mass Effect 2 was not BioWare's greatest idea; the revelation hit while the team was looking at accommodating every significant player decision from the previous two installments.

"They're more hurdles. Sometimes they're hurdles that we've given ourselves, so we kind of smack ourselves in the head and say 'What the hell were we thinking? Why did we do that?'
The classic example is 'Hey, let's make the ending of Mass Effect 2 a suicide mission where all your henchmen can possibly die, and Shepard can even die!' Oh right... and then we're gonna do another game after that. What the hell are we gonna do with all those guys?"

Despite his soft spot for the series, Walters notes that after seven years of Mass Effect, he's grown "a little weary" and looks forward to a change of scenery. That said, he doesn't mind just taking a break and returning to the series later.

It's true. It must be really tough to make a sequel in which almost everybody can die. Got to give the guys credit

Modifié par chris2365, 30 novembre 2011 - 02:45 .

[MarchWaltz]

I agree, they shot themselves in the foot here. The suicide mission idea is in the same category as toilet paper armor for a "tank".

[Someone With Mass]

Not that big of a surprise. They just tried to make it a radical change and pretty much stabbed themselves because of it.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 30 novembre 2011 - 02:43 .

[Chuvvy]

Yeah the whole "everyone can die" thing was a bit of miscalculation. It's an awesome idea but it gives them allot of work. And I have no doubt some people will feel they've gotten the shaft because their favorite character only pops up as a cameo.

[chris2365]

The suicide mission was awesome. However, it creates difficulties for a sequel. Hope they can pull it off

[chris2365]

Slidell505 wrote...

Yeah the whole "everyone can die" thing was a bit of miscalculation. It's an awesome idea but it gives them allot of work. And I have no doubt some people will feel they've gotten the shaft because their favorite character only pops up as a cameo.

This too. It's no wonder the game got delayed.

[Ghost-621]

Let's just hope that Mr. Walters doesn't tire out before ME3 is finished. Though it is looking that way.

Modifié par Ghost-621, 30 novembre 2011 - 02:46 .

[slimgrin]

They knew there would be a third game so that quote seems a little funny to say the least. Maybe they just thought, lets do what we'd like now and tie up the loose ends later.

[AdmiralCheez]

Walters, you and I have a thing or two in common.

"I AM GOING TO WEAR SANDALS IN THE HALF-MELTED SNOW TODAY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET MY SHOES AND SOCKS WET."

"GOD DAMN IT MY FEET ARE COLD WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING."

I've actually done that, by the way.

[KenKenpachi]

Mei Mei wrote...

Didn't see that coming? Wow. LOL

I thought that as well but more like

"Wow you guys are retarded arn't you?"

Also @ Slim, I think you need to go down to a prison, or a hospital, hell even some bars. Alot of people do things as

"It seemed like a good idea at the time."

[Ghost-621]

Well, Bioware, like it or not. This the the rut you've driven yourself into. You had to diverge from Reapers to killing a terminator while risking 50 squadmates. You shot yourself in both feet, and now your series is crippled because you don't know what to do with it.

Dig yourself out of it. By that, finish what you started. Don't "forget" and retcon the crap out of the Mass Effect story any more.

[Chuvvy]

jreezy wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Let's just hope that Mr. Walters doesn't tire out before ME3 is finished. Though it is looking that way.

It's not like he's the only one writing for the game.

Thank **** for that.

[chris2365]

Ghost-621 wrote...

Well, Bioware, like it or not. This the the rut you've driven yourself into. You had to diverge from Reapers to killing a terminator while risking 50 squadmates. You shot yourself in both feet, and now your series is crippled because you don't know what to do with it.

Dig yourself out of it. By that, finish what you started. Don't "forget" and retcon the crap out of the Mass Effect story any more.

Well, games with a 95+ rating often require such sacrifices. It's what makes an awesome game. Besides, as others have stated, it's not like he's alone

[Someone With Mass]

Ghost-621 wrote...

Well, Bioware, like it or not. This the the rut you've driven yourself into. You had to diverge from Reapers to killing a terminator while risking 50 squadmates. You shot yourself in both feet, and now your series is crippled because you don't know what to do with it.

Dig yourself out of it. By that, finish what you started. Don't "forget" and retcon the crap out of the Mass Effect story any more.

If the leak is any indication, they won't.

[Sgt Stryker]

chris2365 wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Well, Bioware, like it or not. This the the rut you've driven yourself into. You had to diverge from Reapers to killing a terminator while risking 50 squadmates. You shot yourself in both feet, and now your series is crippled because you don't know what to do with it.

Dig yourself out of it. By that, finish what you started. Don't "forget" and retcon the crap out of the Mass Effect story any more.

Well, games with a 95+ rating often require such sacrifices. It's what makes an awesome game. Besides, as others have stated, it's not like he's alone

Who said an excellent story and an excellent game are mutually exclusive?

[KenKenpachi]

If the leak is 100% true, I'll be turning around and selling the game back to gamestop asap. I'm willing to give them the benafit of the doubt though.

[chris2365]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Well, Bioware, like it or not. This the the rut you've driven yourself into. You had to diverge from Reapers to killing a terminator while risking 50 squadmates. You shot yourself in both feet, and now your series is crippled because you don't know what to do with it.

Dig yourself out of it. By that, finish what you started. Don't "forget" and retcon the crap out of the Mass Effect story any more.

If the leak is any indication, they won't.

If you've read the leak, can you tell me if it's on par with Bioware's previous games. I managed to stop myself from reading, but I need to know if it's at their quality of storytelling ( No spoilers please!)

Modifié par chris2365, 30 novembre 2011 - 02:58 .

[Il Divo]

As much as I'm looking forward to ME3, I can easily see how what started as a fun, innovative idea: "Let's make a sci-fi trilogy with transferable saves!" can eventually give way to a writer being tired/jaded. It's a long commitment.

[Ghost-621]

chris2365 wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Well, Bioware, like it or not. This the the rut you've driven yourself into. You had to diverge from Reapers to killing a terminator while risking 50 squadmates. You shot yourself in both feet, and now your series is crippled because you don't know what to do with it.

Dig yourself out of it. By that, finish what you started. Don't "forget" and retcon the crap out of the Mass Effect story any more.

Well, games with a 95+ rating often require such sacrifices. It's what makes an awesome game. Besides, as others have stated, it's not like he's alone

I'm going to go ahead and call bullcrap on that. A game with  a 95+ rating doesn't need to have its story and lore butchered to keep it that way. Look at the Half-Life series. In no way was its story butchered or have new "features" implemented that contradicted the lore, and it stayed awesome.

I know he isn't alone, I was regarding the storywriting team as a whole in my previous post.

[spirosz]

chris2365 wrote...

If you've read the leak, can you tell me if it's on par with Bioware's previous games. I managed to stop myself from reading, but I need to know if it's at their quality of storytelling.

You're going to get a lot of divided answers because it comes down to personal taste and what each individual's mindset was for ME3.  A lot of fans are disappointed and a lot of fans are quite pleased.