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[Arthur Cousland]

Not only was DA2 not "Origins 2", but it felt, in many ways, like a completely different franchise, with the many cameo appearances from the Origins cast to remind people that it is the sequel to the last game. DA2 only needed to be an evolution from Origins, not a complete makeover.

Overall, I liked DA2. I just hate the signs of rush all over the place. This game could have been so much better.

[macrocarl]

I loved DA2. It felt different in a couple ways. I know people slam Act 3 for various reasons, and don't get me wrong, there's a couple of head scratchers there for me as well. But overall I'm glad they just pulled the bandaide off and moved on from DAO and are trying new approaches to sustain moving forward.

[hoorayforicecream]

I find it a little funny that in the week since the OP, GamePro itself has shuffled off this mortal coil.

[Realmzmaster]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I find it a little funny that in the week since the OP, GamePro itself has shuffled off this mortal coil.

GamePro simply stopped being relevant. In fact it has not been really relevant for some time as compared to other magazines.

Modifié par Realmzmaster, 06 décembre 2011 - 11:39 .

[Arius23]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

I find it a little funny that in the week since the OP, GamePro itself has shuffled off this mortal coil.

Haha, wow you're right.  Maybe the Bioware Deadly Viper Assassination Squad got to them.  Too bad, I use to love GamePro as a kid, but that's life.

[ScotGaymer]

@The Grey Nayr

I don't agree. Not entirely at least.

Yes I believe that probably about 60% of the "hate" generated for DA2 comes more from the expectation of having Origins 2.0 instead of a whole new game. But not ALL the hate came from that, not all the dissapointment and dislike came from that.

As someone else said, it is blatantly obvious that DA2 was a rush job. We knew that before it was release that it had been rushed, but we bought the assurances that they had been developing DA2 before DAO was released.
Post DA2 release it was obvious to everyone (and the Devs have more or less admitted it) that they were only in very early storyboard stage of writing for the game prior to DAO coming out and that the actual development didnt occur until months later making it a massively rushed game.

That being said it is no where near as bad or as horrible as people claim. For one thing the engine itself has been optimised and runs MUCH better than DAO does; a LOT more stable with very little if any lag.
And another improvement is the lack of CD check every time you want to play the thing.

The game itself warrants a 6.5/7 out of 10 IMO which if we were being realistic about the ratings system (which lets face it most people arent anymore) is well above average (which is supposed to be 5 out of 10 btw) to being a decent/good game.
Its a good game, fun for a playthru or two then you put it away.

People can be so irrational sometimes.

EDIT:
And yeh. Lol @ gamepro going flop.

Looks like they r 2011 Turkey's as well.

Modifié par FitScotGaymer, 08 décembre 2011 - 11:24 .

[AudioEpics]

Rojahar wrote...

When reviewers hate on DA2, it comes as very "Hey, look at me! I hate DA2 just like a lot of people! I'm in-touch with gamers like a good reviewer should be! Oh, and I'm a cool kid too!" but then again I think a lot of people around here hate on DA2 with as much hyperbole as they do just because it's the gamer-hipster thing to do. Whoever hates DA2 the most gets The Prize. I did think it was funny how forums generally hated DA2 while reviewers (at least initially) liked it, then the reviewers bashed the DLC - but uh-oh, people liked those. Being a sheep sure is hard. lolgamingjournalism?

This is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!

[DreamwareStudio]

simfamSP wrote...

FitScotGaymer wrote...

@The Grey Nayr

I don't agree. Not entirely at least.

Yes I believe that probably about 60% of the "hate" generated for DA2 comes more from the expectation of having Origins 2.0 instead of a whole new game. But not ALL the hate came from that, not all the dissapointment and dislike came from that.

As someone else said, it is blatantly obvious that DA2 was a rush job. We knew that before it was release that it had been rushed, but we bought the assurances that they had been developing DA2 before DAO was released.
Post DA2 release it was obvious to everyone (and the Devs have more or less admitted it) that they were only in very early storyboard stage of writing for the game prior to DAO coming out and that the actual development didnt occur until months later making it a massively rushed game.

That being said it is no where near as bad or as horrible as people claim. For one thing the engine itself has been optimised and runs MUCH better than DAO does; a LOT more stable with very little if any lag.
And another improvement is the lack of CD check every time you want to play the thing.

The game itself warrants a 6.5/7 out of 10 IMO which if we were being realistic about the ratings system (which lets face it most people arent anymore) is well above average (which is supposed to be 5 out of 10 btw) to being a decent/good game.
Its a good game, fun for a playthru or two then you put it away.

People can be so irrational sometimes.

EDIT:
And yeh. Lol @ gamepro going flop.

Looks like they r 2011 Turkey's as well.

Yes I find the people who always love to bash DA2 to the point that they think it's E.T 2.0 very trollish, and I really don't care who they are and what 'experience' they've had with RPGs in the past. DA2 deserves a 6/7 out of 10 there is no way it's worse than that.

What carries 6 and 7 though is it's companions which were one of the best I've seen in years.

I've taken a break from my first playthrough with DA:O (Dead Trenches...man, there are some hairy battles in the Deep Roads) to try DA 2.  Thus far, DA 2 is a below average game even as a standalone let alone a sequel (right now it's hovering at 5 for me).  It thus far pales in comparison to other games released in 2011.  Obvious from the get-go it was rushed, the graphics are nothing to get excited about (don't get me started on the terrible model renders), the gameplay is not all that fun, and the story has done less than zip grabbing my interest, and Hawke...meeh.

Not too promising.  Right now I'm damn well bored, itching for a return to DA:O.  It might be a few days before I can get myself to play DA 2 again.  Totally disappointed early on.

Modifié par google_calasade, 16 décembre 2011 - 10:35 .

[Sylvianus]

google_calasade wrote...

I've taken a break from my first playthrough with DA:O (Dead Trenches...man, there are some hairy battles in the Deep Roads) to try DA 2.  Thus far, DA 2 is a below average game even as a standalone let alone a sequel (right now it's hovering at 5 for me).  It thus far pales in comparison to other games released in 2011.  Obvious from the get-go it was rushed, the graphics are nothing to get excited about (don't get me started on the terrible model renders), the gameplay is not all that fun, and the story has done less than zip grabbing my interest, and Hawke...meeh.

Not too promising.  Right now I'm damn well bored, itching for a return to DA:O.  It might be a few days before I can get myself to play DA 2 again.  Totally disappointed early on.

I felt the same;  but " be open minded with this game, " and you will like the game like some like saying.
no, because, apparently " haters " have no reasons to complain about this game, they just expected another DAO2, ZOMG.

Even if DA2 wasn't a sequel, any gamer could see that it was a rushed job.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 16 décembre 2011 - 12:31 .

[skyrend]

If we were grading DA2 on a scale of 5 stars, it is absolutely possible to translate something like a 6.5-7 to a 2-3 start rating. The popular gaming scales would have you believe that every game is a 4 star experience, which they obviously are not (case in point: DA2).

[Bayz]

google_calasade wrote...

I've taken a break from my first playthrough with DA:O (Dead Trenches...man, there are some hairy battles in the Deep Roads) to try DA 2.  Thus far, DA 2 is a below average game even as a standalone let alone a sequel (right now it's hovering at 5 for me).  It thus far pales in comparison to other games released in 2011.  Obvious from the get-go it was rushed, the graphics are nothing to get excited about (don't get me started on the terrible model renders), the gameplay is not all that fun, and the story has done less than zip grabbing my interest, and Hawke...meeh.

Not too promising.  Right now I'm damn well bored, itching for a return to DA:O.  It might be a few days before I can get myself to play DA 2 again.  Totally disappointed early on.

I could go on my first playthrough fine-ish, I played it and used Temple of Elemental Evil Circle of Eight when I wanted to take a break and went blowing just fine...

In my second playthrough I had more problems to concentrate myself into finish it, hardly will say it was a pleasure...

Now I am taking a break before I do my third one, but this time I will play all over Origins again to change a couple of things and see how they work out, and hopefully killing Zevran the first time and keep him dead...

[KennethAFTopp]

IGN is now also taking shots at Dragon Age II, I felt that the Writer had a lot of good points. Apart from the dialogue thing, the dialogue wheel wasn't a bad idea per se. But Bioware's DA team was really really bad at the paraphrasing, also the whole thing seemed pretty limited compared to Mass Effect,
http://pc.ign.com/ar.../1214804p1.html

[Kreid]

Well it was bound to happen, I still don't think DA2 is bad game taking account all the factors surrounding it's development (specially the deadline) but it is a big disappointment not only compared to Origins but also as game development goes (the copy paste dungeons are cringe worthy) it was just a matter of time before gaming publuications started to take their shots at it.

Anyway I just hope BioWare and EA took note of all this and we can get the series back on track.

[kazuya246]

Feanor_II wrote...

Arius23 wrote...

Was DA2 really that big of a disappointment?

For me yes, it was.

Now I'm playing "The Witcher 2" and oh........ If I had to compare them.....

Started up the witcher 2. Had to run from a dragon in a burning building while fighting off an army, all in the first battle. I got owned. The tutorial didnt help,  so i quit to desktop. Havent touched it since

[jds1bio]

kazuya246 wrote...

Started up the witcher 2. Had to run from a dragon in a burning building while fighting off an army, all in the first battle. I got owned. The tutorial didnt help,  so i quit to desktop. Havent touched it since

This statement is more disappointing than DA2 ever was or ever will be.

[Sinuphro]

da 2 is trash. what is surprising is that it just so happens that those sites are just now realizing how worthless da2 was. shows how incompetent several of those companies that rate videogames are.

[Persephone]

Fandango9641 wrote...

kazuya246 wrote...

Feanor_II wrote...

Arius23 wrote...

Was DA2 really that big of a disappointment?

For me yes, it was.

Now I'm playing "The Witcher 2" and oh........ If I had to compare them.....

Started up the witcher 2. Had to run from a dragon in a burning building while fighting off an army, all in the first battle. I got owned. The tutorial didnt help,  so i quit to desktop. Havent touched it since

Oh for an awesome button in TW2 eh?

I'll take an AB over TW2's misogyny any day. Never mind the set protagonist, forced romance and mockery of an "Import" system.<_<

[alex90c]

Persephone wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

kazuya246 wrote...

Feanor_II wrote...

Arius23 wrote...

Was DA2 really that big of a disappointment?

For me yes, it was.

Now I'm playing "The Witcher 2" and oh........ If I had to compare them.....

Started up the witcher 2. Had to run from a dragon in a burning building while fighting off an army, all in the first battle. I got owned. The tutorial didnt help,  so i quit to desktop. Havent touched it since

Oh for an awesome button in TW2 eh?

I'll take an AB over TW2's misogyny any day. Never mind the set protagonist, forced romance and mockery of an "Import" system.<_<

How was DA2's import system any good either? I mean I've never played The Witcher, but the imports for DA2 made like no difference.

[Realmzmaster]

alex90c wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Fandango9641 wrote...

kazuya246 wrote...

Feanor_II wrote...

Arius23 wrote...

Was DA2 really that big of a disappointment?

For me yes, it was.

Now I'm playing "The Witcher 2" and oh........ If I had to compare them.....

Started up the witcher 2. Had to run from a dragon in a burning building while fighting off an army, all in the first battle. I got owned. The tutorial didnt help,  so i quit to desktop. Havent touched it since

Oh for an awesome button in TW2 eh?

I'll take an AB over TW2's misogyny any day. Never mind the set protagonist, forced romance and mockery of an "Import" system.<_<

How was DA2's import system any good either? I mean I've never played The Witcher, but the imports for DA2 made like no difference.

The import for TW2 completely ignores (Shani) one of the two relationships Geralt could have in TW1. TW2 automatically defaults to a relationship with Triss. So if you romanced Shani in TW1 it does not matter.

[Ex-Paladin]

omg, DA2 wasn't DAO! Boo-freaking-hoo <_< the series isn't just about the wardens (yes, I know, a BLOODY shock!). There is obviously more into the works of things hidden in the shadows and will only be discovered from more games!

I liked DA2. Yes, there are a few things that DO urk me but I don't let that get in the way of enjoying what IS good. Personally, I don't feel Act 3 was rushed. Because I was expecting something like that to happen. Though Meredith and Orsino were greatly annoying <_< dumb idiot mage and templar...

The "Best Served Cold" quest is fine, imo. Being attacked on sight makes sense to me because they believe you're working for Meredith. Why? Because everyone in Kirkwall is bloody insane jk, but they're idiots. And you saw Grace use blood magic, yes? Blood magic controls minds, I seem to remember. Maybe she did something, maybe she didn't. Just me speculating! But she wanted to kill Hawke, blamed him/her for bloody everything and was using Thrask for that. Plus, someone kidnaps my sibling, lover, or friend, I'm going on a bloody rampage.

That's my two cents. *Sits down with popcorn and behind a protective shield* bring on the hate