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[Plaintiff]

Chiramu wrote...

They instead need a Dragon Age story that can be able to go on like The Clone Wars cartoons. Especially if you want to make a lot of money, having a cartoon that flows along the lines of a Western cartoon; like The Simpson's or Looney Tunes would make a lot more money than something that looks like it will end in 3 episodes :<.

I am upset that Bioware doesn't want to use the fantastic US animators (especially in financial crisis) and chooses to send that money overseas.

Look at the fantastic work the Nickelodeon studios did with Avatar: The Last Airbender :<, so they used Korean studios but a lot of the money stayed home.

It is upsetting when you don't support your local industries.

I was under the impression that it was the Japanese animators who contacted Bioware, not the other way around.

[Gunderic]

the dislike bar is bigger than dragon age 2's budget.

[Gunderic]

Chiramu wrote...

They instead need a Dragon Age story that can be able to go on like The Clone Wars cartoons. Especially if you want to make a lot of money, having a cartoon that flows along the lines of a Western cartoon; like The Simpson's or Looney Tunes would make a lot more money than something that looks like it will end in 3 episodes :<.

I am upset that Bioware doesn't want to use the fantastic US animators (especially in financial crisis) and chooses to send that money overseas.

Look at the fantastic work the Nickelodeon studios did with Avatar: The Last Airbender :<, so they used Korean studios but a lot of the money stayed home.

It is upsetting when you don't support your local industries.

I find this funny, since a lot of Americans seem to be upset about not being able to 'crack' Japan's market.

[Gunderic]

And seriously, Mike Laidlaw? What's he doing in that video? Didn't you guys try to stress how this franchise isn't 'Devil May Cry' or 'JRPG'. I mean, way to inspire confidence. One moment ago I look at Mike Laidlaw saying some bs on the forums, and then I turn around and see him doing the exact opposite.

I swear, he's trolling us.

[Huntress]

Hmm well I suppose this guys didn't read about negative reception from the players when the mobs started jumping from any given roof with full heavy/medium armor without braking a foot or getting a few broken bones because lets get real that type of armor look heavy.... /sarcasm
But I do like the armor.. Can we please get some NORMAL and cool looking armor for warriors Bioware? And better looking weapon, no deformed crap or horrific to look at, please.

Maybe Da3 is about Cassandra before joining the chantry? meh.. can I play her not to join the chantry and pro-mage? lol!

[tmp7704]

Plaintiff wrote...

I was under the impression that it was the Japanese animators who contacted Bioware, not the other way around.

Think it's even mentioned in the interview thing at the end of the trailer, yeah.

[Atakuma]

Gunderic wrote...

And seriously, Mike Laidlaw? What's he doing in that video? Didn't you guys try to stress how this franchise isn't 'Devil May Cry' or 'JRPG'. I mean, way to inspire confidence. One moment ago I look at Mike Laidlaw saying some bs on the forums, and then I turn around and see him doing the exact opposite.

I swear, he's trolling us.

He was talking about the game, this is an anime, they are two seperate entities.

[Maria Caliban]

The Dubious wrote...

On another note, have no idea why the obviously 'unrealistic' action-bits are so annoying to some... if it is gravity (or the lack of) or even physics that some are harping about, may I point out the existence of that High Dragon- there is just no way a creature of that size could fly if gravity was accounted for.

Dragons are magical creatures. Humans are not.

A setting where only magical creatures can naturally defy physics is not the same as one where both magical and non-magical creatures can defy physics.

Think of it this way: a mage can toss fireballs from their fingertips in a 'realistic' fantasy setting. A setting where everyone can toss out a fireballs at whim is far less 'realistic'.

[Rawgrim]

Maria hit the nail on the head.

[Dave Exclamation Mark Yognaut]

Gunderic wrote...

I swear, he's trolling us.

That was my first thought. I thought that this *had* to be a parody of the dev diaries and the fan backlash to DA2, especially with the fact that all the footage we have seen looks like they cel-shaded in-game cutscenes.

[Savber100]

Ugh... I'm seriously not a fan of the cel-shade look.

[PinkDiamondstl]

I like it. Men you people will wine about anything.Watch it or don't watch. duh

[Plaintiff]

tmp7704 wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

I was under the impression that it was the Japanese animators who contacted Bioware, not the other way around.

Think it's even mentioned in the interview thing at the end of the trailer, yeah.

Well I can't fault them for accepting the offer, at the very least.

If someone called me up and said "Hey, we want to make one of your intellectual properties into an animated movie", how stupid would I have to be to turn them down?

[The Spirit of Dance]

animation reminds me of fire emblem

[tmp7704]

Plaintiff wrote...

Well I can't fault them for accepting the offer, at the very least.

If someone called me up and said "Hey, we want to make one of your intellectual properties into an animated movie", how stupid would I have to be to turn them down?

Yup; if i'm not mistaken it's similar in this regard to the Redemption mini-series and the earlier Warden's Fall thing -- people asked BioWare to be allowed to do something in the DA settings, and got a "go ahead". This one is just done with (presumably) considerably larger budget and on bigger scale.

[John Epler]

Gunderic wrote...

And seriously, Mike Laidlaw? What's he doing in that video? Didn't you guys try to stress how this franchise isn't 'Devil May Cry' or 'JRPG'. I mean, way to inspire confidence. One moment ago I look at Mike Laidlaw saying some bs on the forums, and then I turn around and see him doing the exact opposite.

I swear, he's trolling us.

Yes, Mike Laidlaw, the creative director for the Dragon Age franchise, appeared in a video to promote an ancillary product of that franchise simply to troll you.

We'll have to use something far more insidious next time to hide our true intentions. Maybe commission a large statue and then, at the unveiling, read aloud a saucy limerick.

More seriously, of course, there's no disconnect, try as you might to paint one. Dragon Age, as a game franchise, is not going to turn into a Devil May Cry'esque action game. Nor will it turn into a JRPG. Much as Mike Laidlaw has stated before. Sharing a universe and a franchise with an anime is not going to turn Dragon Age into something it's not, much like how Dark Knight was not an animated film simply because Batman Beyond exists.

But hey! Opinions.

[Fast Jimmy]

I do love me some limericks!

Also, Batman Beyond rocks. I like your metaphoric references tonight, John!

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

JohnEpler wrote...

Gunderic wrote...

And seriously, Mike Laidlaw? What's he doing in that video? Didn't you guys try to stress how this franchise isn't 'Devil May Cry' or 'JRPG'. I mean, way to inspire confidence. One moment ago I look at Mike Laidlaw saying some bs on the forums, and then I turn around and see him doing the exact opposite.

I swear, he's trolling us.

Yes, Mike Laidlaw, the creative director for the Dragon Age franchise, appeared in a video to promote an ancillary product of that franchise simply to troll you.

[Picture removed]

I don't exactly get the connection either.

I mean, we have Dragon Age books but (unfortunately) that hasn't stopped BioWare from using cinematics for everything and moving away from written text.

On an unrelated note, this may just be me, but I do want a western RPG developer to take on JRPG gameplay elements and assume them under a WRPG design.

I would really enjoy a WRPG with the combat system of Final Fantasy Tactics, or The Last Remnant.

I want to see another game meld the two subgenres to be in the same class as an Anachronox. Not that I want BioWare to change current IPs to do that (worse idea evar), but I would like another game like Anachronox.

Modifié par JohnEpler, 06 décembre 2011 - 04:37 .

[csfteeeer]

> Anime
> More Adult

um, no.

Modifié par csfteeeer, 06 décembre 2011 - 04:31 .

[Atakuma]

csfteeeer wrote...

> Anime
> More Adult

um, no.

Um, yes. Anime can be very adult, just like any other medium.

[Chromie]

mrcrusty wrote...
On an unrelated note, this may just be me, but I do want a western RPG developer to take on JRPG gameplay elements and assume them under a WRPG design.

I would really enjoy a WRPG with the combat system of Final Fantasy Tactics, or The Last Remnant.

I want to see another game meld the two subgenres to be in the same class as an Anachronox. Not that I want BioWare to change current IPs to do that (worse idea evar), but I would like another game like Anachronox.

Same here. Jrpgs have some very fun gameplay I just love Disgea.

Atakuma wrote...

csfteeeer wrote...

> Anime
> More Adult

um, no.

Um, yes. Anime can be very adult, just like any other medium.

Right next your gonna say the sky is blue /sarcasm. I swear it feels BSN seems to hate anything Japanese I would have liked to see someone like Shinichirō Watanabe work on the DA anime. Who doesn't enjoy Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop?

Modifié par Ringo12, 06 décembre 2011 - 04:35 .

[WhiteKnyght]

JohnEpler wrote...

Gunderic wrote...

And seriously, Mike Laidlaw? What's he doing in that video? Didn't you guys try to stress how this franchise isn't 'Devil May Cry' or 'JRPG'. I mean, way to inspire confidence. One moment ago I look at Mike Laidlaw saying some bs on the forums, and then I turn around and see him doing the exact opposite.

I swear, he's trolling us.

Yes, Mike Laidlaw, the creative director for the Dragon Age franchise, appeared in a video to promote an ancillary product of that franchise simply to troll you.

We'll have to use something far more insidious next time to hide our true intentions. Maybe commission a large statue and then, at the unveiling, read aloud a saucy limerick.

More seriously, of course, there's no disconnect, try as you might to paint one. Dragon Age, as a game franchise, is not going to turn into a Devil May Cry'esque action game. Nor will it turn into a JRPG. Much as Mike Laidlaw has stated before. Sharing a universe and a franchise with an anime is not going to turn Dragon Age into something it's not, much like how Dark Knight was not an animated film simply because Batman Beyond exists.

But hey! Opinions.

You gotta love how people always assume the worst. Amirite, J-Ep? lol

The devs learning new things about storytelling from other types of media to improve their own works is hardly changing the franchise into something else.

[John Epler]

Yeah. Let's avoid the moderately offensive photoshops, please. I know we're better than that, sooo I'm just going to edit that and we shall say no more about it.

And Anachronox was fantastic. I would buy the heck out of anything resembling that.

[Brockololly]

JohnEpler wrote...
More seriously, of course, there's no disconnect, try as you might to paint one. Dragon Age, as a game franchise, is not going to turn into a Devil May Cry'esque action game. Nor will it turn into a JRPG. Much as Mike Laidlaw has stated before.

Well, saying stuff and doing stuff are entirely different matters. I mean, many things were said about DA2 pre-release that didn't end up true. And like the game or not, DA2 does carry with it similarities to JRPGs, whether intentional or not. I mean, thats sort of what half of that trailer is talking about- how DA would fit in as an anime because of how DA2 established certain things like the art style and so forth.

JohnEpler wrote...
Sharing a universe and a franchise with an anime is not going to turn Dragon Age into something it's not, much like how Dark Knight was not an animated film simply because Batman Beyond exists.

Difference between Batman and DA being that Batman has been around for decades while DA is in its infancy. So presumably anything DA related coming out now is basically setting the tone for how people view the entire Dragon Age IP going forward.

[WhiteKnyght]

Maria Caliban wrote...

The Dubious wrote...

On another note, have no idea why the obviously 'unrealistic' action-bits are so annoying to some... if it is gravity (or the lack of) or even physics that some are harping about, may I point out the existence of that High Dragon- there is just no way a creature of that size could fly if gravity was accounted for.

Dragons are magical creatures. Humans are not.

A setting where only magical creatures can naturally defy physics is not the same as one where both magical and non-magical creatures can defy physics.

Think of it this way: a mage can toss fireballs from their fingertips in a 'realistic' fantasy setting. A setting where everyone can toss out a fireballs at whim is far less 'realistic'.

Well have you seen the size of their wings when spread out? They probably proportionally similar to a large bird, just the overall size is different.

Also it seems reasonable that Dragons might not weigh as much as people assume. Afterall, Dragonbone, one of the strongest materials for weapons and armor, is supposed to be very light yet strong.

Also the muscles used to flap those massive wings are likely very strong. Gravity doesn't count for much if you have the right amount of strength.

And they probably do a bit of gliding on wind currents.

Brockololly wrote...

JohnEpler wrote...
More seriously, of course, there's no disconnect, try as you might to paint one. Dragon Age, as a game franchise, is not going to turn into a Devil May Cry'esque action game. Nor will it turn into a JRPG. Much as Mike Laidlaw has stated before.

Well, saying stuff and doing stuff are entirely different matters. I mean, many things were said about DA2 pre-release that didn't end up true. And like the game or not, DA2 does carry with it similarities to JRPGs, whether intentional or not. I mean, thats sort of what half of that trailer is talking about- how DA would fit in as an anime because of how DA2 established certain things like the art style and so forth.

JohnEpler wrote...
Sharing a universe and a franchise with an anime is not going to turn Dragon Age into something it's not, much like how Dark Knight was not an animated film simply because Batman Beyond exists.

Difference between Batman and DA being that Batman has been around for decades while DA is in its infancy. So presumably anything DA related coming out now is basically setting the tone for how people view the entire Dragon Age IP going forward.

So you're saying they aren't allowed to try anything different because of some twisted age descrimination?

Age doesn't change much. Just as many, if not more Baman fans would be p/o'd about trying something different than DA fans.

Ever since it's start, Dragon Age has been a franchise with several different forms. Games, novels, comics, a webseries, a flash game on social networking sites, and now an anime.

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 06 décembre 2011 - 05:04 .