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[Ghost-621]

Yes, let's make the game even more brainless...

[InvincibleHero]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Yes, but not quite as minimal as that of a .22 pistol. Closer to a 9mm, as I said in my last post. As far as auto-corrective software is concerned, I doubt that the bullet is somehow "guided" in mid-air by the gun's computer. Otherwise, why wouldn't the same tech be extended to ship-board mass accelerators? A much simpler explanation is that the sights are adjustable, and the gun has computer-controlled mechanisms that adjust the sight to compensate for wind and distance to target. Current guns feature adjustable sights already, but these have to be calibrated by hand through trial and error, so it seems perfectly plausible for this process to become automated 170 years from now.

I meant more like internally as the trigger is pressed to hit LOS. The autocorrecting sights in real time seems too implausible and would be unstable IMO. You slightly move your arm or a wind gusts and the sight would be far from where you'd want it. it would make it more innaccurate IMO.

Are you saying the electromagnetic fields within the gun 's accelerator are adjusted instead? Hmm, that makes more sense, and you wouldn't have to worry about mechanical wear and tear from tiny servos that constantly adjust an iron sight. Perhaps that also explains why the barrels have such a large diameter. I like that idea. 

Yeah it changes weight of bullet and speed of projectile to compensate.

[InvincibleHero]

Ghost-621 wrote...

Yes, let's make the game even more brainless...

Exactly how would that happen from one possible option you don't have to utilize?

[Ghost-621]

InvincibleHero wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Yes, let's make the game even more brainless...

Exactly how would that happen from one possible option you don't have to utilize?

Because like most of the pointless, brainless things that they've stuffed into the Mass Effect series, they're going to push it on you.

[InvincibleHero]

Ghost-621 wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Yes, let's make the game even more brainless...

Exactly how would that happen from one possible option you don't have to utilize?

Because like most of the pointless, brainless things that they've stuffed into the Mass Effect series, they're going to push it on you.

So force you to dual wield? I don't see that happening. Weapon choice has always been a player decision.They could do something well as it has happened in the past you know?

[CenturyCrow]

I never understood the fascination with dual wielding, particularly since most people are right handed, something like 90% and about 10% left handed. A true ambidextrous person would be extremely rare.

(Dextrous is right. Sinistral is left. Ambidextrous means right handed on both sides or two right hands. Ambidextrous is the closest English word to describe someone who uses their left and right hand simultaneously.)

I imagine trying to create animations for dual wielding would be a significant undertaking.

Forget dual wielding. I want to see quad wielding Keepers running around. <_<

Modifié par CenturyCrow, 02 décembre 2011 - 06:07 .

[Ghost-621]

InvincibleHero wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Yes, let's make the game even more brainless...

Exactly how would that happen from one possible option you don't have to utilize?

Because like most of the pointless, brainless things that they've stuffed into the Mass Effect series, they're going to push it on you.

So force you to dual wield? I don't see that happening. Weapon choice has always been a player decision.They could do something well as it has happened in the past you know?

Most things used to be player choice in the Mass Effect series. However, thanks to a lovley Russian, we've been railroaded in ME3 in almost everything. By that, I mean the player choices in ME 1 & 2 (especially 1) don't even matter anymore.

Not what I'd call giving us a choice. So, just judging from what Bioware has been slipping into, I'd expect Shepard to have dual handguns in the cutscenes...

[Il Divo]

CenturyCrow wrote...

I never understood the fascination with dual wielding, particularly since most people are right handed, something like 90% and about 10% left handed. A true ambidextrous person would be extremely rare.

(Dextrous is right. Sinistral is left. Ambidextrous means right handed on both sides or two right hands. Ambidextrous is the closest English word to describe someone who uses their left and right hand simultaneously.)

I imagine trying to create animations for dual wielding would be a significant undertaking.

Forget dual wielding. I want to see quad wielding Keepers running around. <_<

Mainly an aesthetic issue. I admit, it's less "flashy" with guns, since all you're doing anyway is shooting stuff, but there's alot of fun to be had in both films and games which have featured dual-wielding as a feature, even if it has practically no basis in any kind of actual combat application. It just looks real pretty.

[InvincibleHero]

CenturyCrow wrote...

I never understood the fascination with dual wielding, particularly since most people are right handed, something like 90% and about 10% left handed. A true ambidextrous person would be extremely rare.

(Dextrous is right. Sinistral is left. Ambidextrous means right handed on both sides or two right hands. Ambidextrous is the closest English word to describe someone who uses their left and right hand simultaneously.)

I imagine trying to create animations for dual wielding would be a significant undertaking.

Forget dual wielding. I want to see quad wielding Keepers running around. <_<

I don't understand why geth platforms would not dual wield. They can split their focus on both guns and double their firepower. Legion for the win.

[AlexMBrennan]

No, dual wielding machine pistols is best - they are far more accurate when firing full-auto while running and jumping (which Shepard can't do, but never mind) than an assault rifle fired in short bursts while prone, and bullets magically hit the enemie's head (if MW3 is at all accurate)

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 02 décembre 2011 - 08:34 .

[jackyboy666]

I cant think of any real army, special forces or military unit that dual weilds weapons

[Homebound]

dual-wielding handcannons? Do you know how over-powered that is?

[Homebound]

guys we're talking about game-mechanics here right? Not real life military chest-beating stuff?

[Sgt Stryker]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Because when you need double firepower, you use a submachine gun.

Why not TWO submachineguns? For that matter why not two plasma rifles in the 40-watt range?

[Killjoy Cutter]

Heather Cline wrote...

KenKenpachi wrote...

If your going to dual wield do like this Japanese Yakuza Assassin in a blue suit I seen in this film some years back, just get one guy with alot of clips to fallow you, and shoot just one pistol, then when its empty, you take that hand and reach it behind you while you bring up the other one and start firing, the dude behind you then grabs the empty one, reloads it, and puts it back in your hand just as the now empty 2nd pistol goes back to him, and you raise up the now reloaded pistol. He kept up a pretty stable barrage of nearly endless gunfire.

Thats actully the first pratical dual wielding of handguns I ever seen.

Also Heater, Mythbusters and any gun myths they test I automatically ignore given they are in the "great" state of California. Harsh gunlaws, lack of real fire arms experts in the state, and lack of other legally avilable ammo, make most myths they test dead in the water in that reguard. Hell you'ld do better sending a letter to R Lee Ermmy on Mail Call.

That's where you're wrong Ken, in fact on Mythbusters they've had various guns, various types of ammo, and they've even done a myth based on rocket propelled grenades. Therefore your so called 'lack of legally available ammo' is bull. They have police, bomb experts, gun experts and so on on the show all the time when they do things like explosions and gun myth's. Which also debunks your 'lack of real firearm experts' too. Therefore what you say is really not correct at all about Mythbusters.

If he ignores them, how does he know what they actually manage to test or how accurate the tests actually are?

Never mind that Mythbusters routinely leaves California to do tests on weapons myths that they can't conduct there due to state laws -- the expressly mention it. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

Il Divo wrote...

CenturyCrow wrote...

I never understood the fascination with dual wielding, particularly since most people are right handed, something like 90% and about 10% left handed. A true ambidextrous person would be extremely rare.

(Dextrous is right. Sinistral is left. Ambidextrous means right handed on both sides or two right hands. Ambidextrous is the closest English word to describe someone who uses their left and right hand simultaneously.)

I imagine trying to create animations for dual wielding would be a significant undertaking.

Forget dual wielding. I want to see quad wielding Keepers running around. <_<

Mainly an aesthetic issue. I admit, it's less "flashy" with guns, since all you're doing anyway is shooting stuff, but there's alot of fun to be had in both films and games which have featured dual-wielding as a feature, even if it has practically no basis in any kind of actual combat application. It just looks real pretty.

It has far more basis in reality with melee weapons, or weapon and shield, than it does with guns.  That weapon or shield in the "off" hand actually works in that regard. 

Which is why it has a place in a game with a setting in an older era... but not in one where firearms are the primary weapon.

[sael_feman]

Nooooo! No dual wielding. This isn't Halo 2 or Max Payne, this is Mass Effect.

If real soldiers think one rifle at a time is a good idea, then so should Shepherd.

S'F'

[FoxShadowblade]

CenturyCrow wrote...

I never understood the fascination with dual wielding, particularly since most people are right handed, something like 90% and about 10% left handed. A true ambidextrous person would be extremely rare.

(Dextrous is right. Sinistral is left. Ambidextrous means right handed on both sides or two right hands. Ambidextrous is the closest English word to describe someone who uses their left and right hand simultaneously.)

I imagine trying to create animations for dual wielding would be a significant undertaking.

Forget dual wielding. I want to see quad wielding Keepers running around. <_<

Side note: Ambidextrous people are rare, but most right-handed people can use their left hand just as well for almost everything(like myself) So..semi-ambidextrous.

Firing two pistols at the same time does not require ambidextrous skill however, and as such it would be more than possible for Shepard to fire duel-wield two pistols. I think it could be implemented in the same way it was implemented on the Armored Kantus in Gears of War 3, where you can see the character holding both pistols, but the reticule functions the same as only having one pistol.

Perhaps increased firepower with a trade off of the accuracy the pistols in ME are good for.

It could work, and the guy saying it's brainless can go shove it. Duel-wielding will not ruin ME, moron.

[Feanor_II]

YES PLEASE.
And also "awesome button"

[Abraham_uk]

Thirteen pages on, people are still arguing about dualwielding guns. If they did it, you can ignore the feature. What kind of world would this be if the only people left were members of the Bioware Social Network?

[HiroVoid]

I want to dual wield M-69 cains. You don't worry about aim in those cases.

[Abraham_uk]

HiroVoid wrote...

I want to dual wield M-69 cains. You don't worry about aim in those cases.

KABOOM KABOOM! Nuclear mayhem!!!