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I think it was expected TIM was going to use bad, bad technology regardless. Just look at those eyes. But I agree that ME2's big final decision should have mattered.

What about ME1's big final decision? In ME2 the council doesn't matter because we're outside council space most of the time. But I believe a human council and an alien council would handle the war on their own territory quite differently, and making all the other species join in the war effort would be a lot different too since aliens see the human council as illegitimate usurpers and bullies. Deals should be arranged. Promises should be made and then broken.

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Yeah... about that. I'm afraid that choice won't amount to anything either.

Being able to get your Spectre status back or not should have mattered too. Both in ME2 and in ME3.

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*Supports Cerberus*
For the sake of human hegemony over galaxy and because I'm well paid by Cerberus. Trololol

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Being able to get your Spectre status back or not should have mattered too. Both in ME2 and in ME3.


And you're certain that it won't?

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Being able to get your Spectre status back or not should have mattered too. Both in ME2 and in ME3.


And you're certain that it won't?


Yeah.

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Oh, right. Cynicism and all that.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Oh, right. Cynicism and all that.


Better a surprised cynic than disappointed optimist.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Better a surprised cynic than disappointed optimist.


Better to have reasonable goals than having unrealistic ones and be disappointed when they aren't met.

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Nyoka wrote...

I think it was expected TIM was going to use bad, bad technology regardless. Just look at those eyes. But I agree that ME2's big final decision should have mattered.

What about ME1's big final decision? In ME2 the council doesn't matter because we're outside council space most of the time. But I believe a human council and an alien council would handle the war on their own territory quite differently, and making all the other species join in the war effort would be a lot different too since aliens see the human council as illegitimate usurpers and bullies. Deals should be arranged. Promises should be made and then broken.

True, true. But don't expect to see more socio-political stuff, as Shepard himself says that he's "a soldier, not a politician".

But the full human Council is apparently retconned out of existence. The new alien one will apparently appear in ME3, although we should've met both of them in ME2 already,

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Better to have reasonable goals than having unrealistic ones and be disappointed when they aren't met.


I do have realistic goals. That's why I am so cynical.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

I think it was expected TIM was going to use bad, bad technology regardless. Just look at those eyes. But I agree that ME2's big final decision should have mattered.

What about ME1's big final decision? In ME2 the council doesn't matter because we're outside council space most of the time. But I believe a human council and an alien council would handle the war on their own territory quite differently, and making all the other species join in the war effort would be a lot different too since aliens see the human council as illegitimate usurpers and bullies. Deals should be arranged. Promises should be made and then broken.

True, true. But don't expect to see more socio-political stuff, as Shepard himself says that he's "a soldier, not a politician".

But the full human Council is apparently retconned out of existence. The new alien one will apparently appear in ME3, although we should've met both of them in ME2 already,

   



Are you serious then this franchise is a complete joke when it comes to player choice and it having a effect in the ME Universe

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Saphra Deden wrote...

I do have realistic goals. That's why I am so cynical.


Sucks to be so pessimistic, then.

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Medhia Nox wrote...

@CrutchCricket: The Reaper is not a "child" - you're using anthropomorphism.


It's a great big T-800 it's already anthropomorphised.

Medhia Nox wrote...

Machines do not go through developmental stages.


...Yes they do. Of course they do. Well individual machines don't.

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@Kaiser Shepard well, we've already seen political maneuvering with the Krogan and the genophage. Wrex knows the Krogan are needed and he doesn't hesitate to use that leverage to make Shepard go save the fertile female. That politicking is the point of pretty much all the video we've seen so far.

I'm not saying each playthrough should be like a different game. All alien races could join at the end regardless, but the cost of that could be different in each case. I can see the Turians demanding his territory extra-protected in the case of a human council due to the old grudge (most of the hierarchy's high command could have served in the first contact war), and that could very well cost humanity their off-council-space territories-just an example.

Another thing is we need some ambiguity towards the earth. Let's improvise, what about a Terra Firma assassination attempt against a Shepard under an alien council's orders? They can believe the reapers are just special council warships (most of them haven't seen a ship in their life) and Shepard is somehow related to the attack because he's a council spectre and has betrayed humanity. There aren't a lot of things stupider than political extremism. Make Shepard think just for a split second whether these people are really worth all the effort. I know there are other humans trying to kill Shepard (Cerberus), but those are Officially Bad Guys, so they aren't useful as moral triggers.

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I take my kid to the doctor and come back to this. *sigh*

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Nyoka wrote...

@Kaiser Shepard well, we've already seen political maneuvering with the Krogan and the genophage. Wrex knows the Krogan are needed and he doesn't hesitate to use that leverage to make Shepard go save the fertile female. That politicking is the point of pretty much all the video we've seen so far.

I'm not saying each playthrough should be like a different game. All alien races could join at the end regardless, but the cost of that could be different in each case. I can see the Turians demanding his territory extra-protected in the case of a human council due to the old grudge (most of the hierarchy's high command could have served in the first contact war), and that could very well cost humanity their off-council-space territories-just an example.

Another thing is we need some ambiguity towards the earth. Let's improvise, what about a Terra Firma assassination attempt against a Shepard under an alien council's orders? They can believe the reapers are just special council warships (most of them haven't seen a ship in their life) and Shepard is somehow related to the attack because he's a council spectre and has betrayed humanity. There aren't a lot of things stupider than political extremism. Make Shepard think just for a split second whether these people are really worth all the effort. I know there are other humans trying to kill Shepard (Cerberus), but those are Officially Bad Guys, so they aren't useful as moral triggers.

  



If what that one guy said is true then you might be right I mean if our choice from ME 1 was retconned in 3 then Bioware has some f**king explaining to do .

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

I do have realistic goals. That's why I am so cynical.


Sucks to be so pessimistic, then.


sucks to be you, eh? no girlfriend, no life, just hentai pic of TALI on your desktop
:ph34r:

TIM is my guy, even if he wants to kill my Shepard off. if I have no choice to roleplay, why should I care?

Modifié par kiti.the.great, 01 décembre 2011 - 08:27 .


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kiti.the.great wrote...

sucks to be you, eh? no girlfriend, no life, just hentai pic of TALI on your desktop
:ph34r:

TIM is my guy, even if he wants to kill my Shepard off. if I have no choice to roleplay, why should I care?


My hair is a bird...

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 01 décembre 2011 - 08:31 .


#244
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g00d 2 kno tbh

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kiti.the.great wrote...

sucks to be you, eh? no girlfriend, no life, just hentai pic of TALI on your desktop
:ph34r:

TIM is my guy, even if he wants to kill my Shepard off. if I have no choice to roleplay, why should I care?


You just can't make a comment without resorting to the most overused insults in the world, can you?

You are the prime example of why this forum needs a comment filter. To sort out wastes of space like yourself.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

kiti.the.great wrote...

sucks to be you, eh? no girlfriend, no life, just hentai pic of TALI on your desktop
:ph34r:

TIM is my guy, even if he wants to kill my Shepard off. if I have no choice to roleplay, why should I care?


You just can't make a comment without resorting to the most overused insults in the world, can you?

You are the prime example of why this forum needs a comment filter. To sort out wastes of space like yourself.


i can't. i love to see your butthurt babyyyyy
ah yeah, insults... such a hypocrite!
no wait,
talimancer.
gaaawd
:wub:

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I love you so much BSN.

You're like the emotionally abusive mother I already had!

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

I love you so much BSN.

You're like the emotionally abusive mother I already had!


sad story bro! how can i help you?
 :alien:

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kiti.the.great wrote...

i can't. i love to see your butthurt babyyyyy
ah yeah, insults... such a hypocrite!
no wait,
talimancer.
gaaawd
:wub:


I think you're mistaking butthurt for bored.

By the way, you're telling me that I don't have a life, yet you're the one who's on this forum for the sole reason of finding people to throw the insults of a twelve year old at? That's comical.

But I digress.

There are plenty of other ways to defeating the Reapers than giving TIM a blender.

#250
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Someone With Mass wrote...

I think you're mistaking butthurt for bored.


no

By the way, you're telling me that I don't have a life


yes

yet you're the one who's on this forum for the sole reason of finding people to throw the insults of a twelve year old at?


no

That's comical.


yes