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#1601
MJvasNormandy

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

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And no, I haven't been proven wrong. You just said I was wrong, but that's not proof of anything.


Yes, you have.
You're free to re-define sucess if you want, but no one cares about your definition.

Cerberus experiments have been mostly sucesses.


I hate to ever post in these type of threads. But honestly, this has to be the dumbest response to a logical statement I have ever seen.

The sad part is I might actually be on Lotion's side of the argument. Too bad he represents himself as a tool.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

It pleases me that you're reduced to trying to find speed typos in my posts.
Shows you got nothing else to offer to this thread and discussion.


Or it just shows that he's stopped taking you seriously because you have nothing good to add or anything that's worth replying too.


My dear SWM...
Unlike you and your ilk, when I'm badly loosing an argument I don't try to de-rail the thread by going off-tanget and outright ignoring the opposition. I don't stick around for the sole purpose of sticking around.

Either contribute to the thread by being on topic or gracefully get out.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

It pleases me that you're reduced to trying to find speed typos in my posts.
Shows you got nothing else to offer to this thread and discussion.


Or it just shows that he's stopped taking you seriously because you have nothing good to add or anything that's worth replying too.


My dear SWM...
Unlike you and your ilk, when I'm badly loosing an argument I don't try to de-rail the thread by going off-tanget and outright ignoring the opposition. I don't stick around for the sole purpose of sticking around.

Either contribute to the thread by being on topic or gracefully get out.

It's ironic, because your post wasn't on-topic either.

#1604
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Cthulhu42 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

It pleases me that you're reduced to trying to find speed typos in my posts.
Shows you got nothing else to offer to this thread and discussion.


Or it just shows that he's stopped taking you seriously because you have nothing good to add or anything that's worth replying too.


My dear SWM...
Unlike you and your ilk, when I'm badly loosing an argument I don't try to de-rail the thread by going off-tanget and outright ignoring the opposition. I don't stick around for the sole purpose of sticking around.

Either contribute to the thread by being on topic or gracefully get out.

It's ironic, because your post wasn't on-topic either.


IS yours?

I don't have a habbit of posting 10 posts in a row that have nothing to do with the topic, but are just  trolling attempts.





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Oh, it probably has to do with mass
Cerberus indoctrination due to spending too much time screwing around
with Reaper technology.

But of course there is no logical reason
to be against the use of that technology. The fact that it always seems
to result in mass deaths and people doing the Reaper's work for them
and./or converted to husks is just too darned inconvenient.

And
yes, it is true, limited applications of Reaper technology have managed
to dodge the indoctrination bullet (EDI, the thanix cannon, Shepard, the
Reaper IFF), but these are exceptions and they do not sufficiently test
the rule. Further, none of those four involved working within a major
Reaper installation (for example, in the derelict Reaper, or the
attempts to study Sovereign. Even the artifact in the Bahak system,
which was not a full installation in and of itself. Leaving the base
intact for the Illusive Man is essentially giving Cerberus to the
Reapers. If anything, TIM should thank Shepard for holding the line in
TIM's moment of weakness and temptation.

Obviously, ME3 will play
out the way it plays out, but Shepard doesn't have that information
when it's time to decide what to do with the Collector Base. However,
with the dozens or possibly hundreds of pages spent debating this
topic, it's completely laughable to claim that no one has ever produced
a logical argument in favor of destroying the base, or that all of the
arguments in favor of destruction boil down to "fighting the Reapers
with good intentions." An unwillingness to see logic is not an absence of logic.


"Limited" application? There's nothing limited about it.

FACT: Each and every instance of study of reaper tech enabled a victory for us.
FACT: Chances of defeating the reapers with our current forces, in a conventional war - practicly zero. -(supported by numebrs and codex entries. I've set to see any thing to back up the "we can take em" stance)

You're so afraid of Cerberus getting indoctrinated, you're willing to risk loosing the enitre war to avoid that.

Absence of proper logic. I can't see what's not there.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 19 décembre 2011 - 01:21 .


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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

It pleases me that you're reduced to trying to find speed typos in my posts.
Shows you got nothing else to offer to this thread and discussion.


Or it just shows that he's stopped taking you seriously because you have nothing good to add or anything that's worth replying too.


My dear SWM...
Unlike you and your ilk, when I'm badly loosing an argument I don't try to de-rail the thread by going off-tanget and outright ignoring the opposition. I don't stick around for the sole purpose of sticking around.

Either contribute to the thread by being on topic or gracefully get out.

It's ironic, because your post wasn't on-topic either.


IS yours?

Of course mine wasn't. I'm not the one complaining if people go off-topic though; in fact, I usually welcome it. Threads like these just recycle the same arguments in different wording every few pages anyway, so I tend to enjoy any break in the monotony.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

It pleases me that you're reduced to trying to find speed typos in my posts.
Shows you got nothing else to offer to this thread and discussion.


Or it just shows that he's stopped taking you seriously because you have nothing good to add or anything that's worth replying too.


My dear SWM...
Unlike you and your ilk, when I'm badly loosing an argument I don't try to de-rail the thread by going off-tanget and outright ignoring the opposition. I don't stick around for the sole purpose of sticking around.

Either contribute to the thread by being on topic or gracefully get out.

It's ironic, because your post wasn't on-topic either.


IS yours?

Of course mine wasn't. I'm not the one complaining if people go off-topic though; in fact, I usually welcome it. Threads like these just recycle the same arguments in different wording every few pages anyway, so I tend to enjoy any break in the monotony.


Ain't it the truth?

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

FACT: Each and every instance of study of reaper tech enabled a victory for us.


I suppose you could count the Alpha Relay as a victory "enabled" by studying Reaper tech... in a sort of ironic way. 

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

It pleases me that you're reduced to trying to find speed typos in my posts.
Shows you got nothing else to offer to this thread and discussion.


Or it just shows that he's stopped taking you seriously because you have nothing good to add or anything that's worth replying too.


^ This.

#1609
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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

It pleases me that you're reduced to trying to find speed typos in my posts.
Shows you got nothing else to offer to this thread and discussion.


Or it just shows that he's stopped taking you seriously because you have nothing good to add or anything that's worth replying too.


My dear SWM...
Unlike you and your ilk, when I'm badly loosing an argument I don't try to de-rail the thread by going off-tanget and outright ignoring the opposition. I don't stick around for the sole purpose of sticking around.

Either contribute to the thread by being on topic or gracefully get out.


Coming from you?  Thanks for the laugh. 

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

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And no, I haven't been proven wrong. You just said I was wrong, but that's not proof of anything.


Yes, you have.
You're free to re-define sucess if you want, but no one cares about your definition.

Cerberus experiments have been mostly sucesses.

Lotion... I would challenge you to name one Cerberus research project that succeeded in it's goal without requiring Shepard to pull it's boots out of the fire.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

My dear SWM...
Unlike you and your ilk, when I'm badly loosing an argument I don't try to de-rail the thread by going off-tanget and outright ignoring the opposition. I don't stick around for the sole purpose of sticking around.

Either contribute to the thread by being on topic or gracefully get out.


I don't think you're the right person to talk to me about grace. Or how to relay an argument for that matter.

Besides, this topic has been done to death.

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Lord Aesir wrote...


Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...
And no, I haven't been proven wrong. You just said I was wrong, but that's not proof of anything.


Yes, you have.
You're free to re-define sucess if you want, but no one cares about your definition.

Cerberus experiments have been mostly sucesses.

Lotion... I would challenge you to name one Cerberus research project that succeeded in it's goal without requiring Shepard to pull it's boots out of the fire.


Arc Projector.

#1613
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BlueMagitek wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...


Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...
And no, I haven't been proven wrong. You just said I was wrong, but that's not proof of anything.


Yes, you have.
You're free to re-define sucess if you want, but no one cares about your definition.

Cerberus experiments have been mostly sucesses.

Lotion... I would challenge you to name one Cerberus research project that succeeded in it's goal without requiring Shepard to pull it's boots out of the fire.


Arc Projector.

That actually sort of proves my point.  The only success Cerberus had was one that had next to no chance of blowing up in their faces to begin with.

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The Arc Projector gets a successor in ME3, anyway. Which isn't even made by Cerberus.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 19 décembre 2011 - 04:24 .


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Someone With Mass wrote...

The Arc Projector gets a successor in ME3, anyway. Which isn't even made by Cerberus.

Oh, thank space jesus, the Arc Projector was my favorite of all the heavy weapons in ME2. B)

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Lord Aesir wrote...

That actually sort of proves my point.  The only success Cerberus had was one that had next to no chance of blowing up in their faces to begin with.


Initial creation and reproduction of the Normandy 2.

And considering they were doing it near Geth Space, it did have a chance of ending poorly.

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BlueMagitek wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

That actually sort of proves my point.  The only success Cerberus had was one that had next to no chance of blowing up in their faces to begin with.


Initial creation and reproduction of the Normandy 2.

And considering they were doing it near Geth Space, it did have a chance of ending poorly.

Not a scientific research project.  Cerberus does have some success in other areas, but it's research division, especially involving alien technology, has an abysmal record.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

The Arc Projector gets a successor in ME3, anyway. Which isn't even made by Cerberus.

They still have the Cain at least.

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jreezy wrote...

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The Arc Projector gets a successor in ME3, anyway. Which isn't even made by Cerberus.

They still have the Cain at least.

I'm pretty sure Shepard could shoot any Cerberus soldier point-blank in the forehead before they could even get the Cain fully charged up. :P

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Ah! there it is....
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MJvasNormandy wrote...

I hate to ever post in these type of threads. But honestly, this has to be the dumbest response to a logical statement I have ever seen.


What about Lotion's post there is dumb? It looks logical to me.

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jreezy wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

The Arc Projector gets a successor in ME3, anyway. Which isn't even made by Cerberus.

They still have the Cain at least.

Not so sure.  The Cain was developed on the Normandy.  Who knows how much of that got back to Cerberus?

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Lord Aesir wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

The Arc Projector gets a successor in ME3, anyway. Which isn't even made by Cerberus.

They still have the Cain at least.

Not so sure.  The Cain was developed on the Normandy.  Who knows how much of that got back to Cerberus?


Uh huh, yeah. I'm sure things developed on the Normandy don't get back to Cerberus.

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Saphra Deden wrote...

Lord Aesir wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

The Arc Projector gets a successor in ME3, anyway. Which isn't even made by Cerberus.

They still have the Cain at least.

Not so sure.  The Cain was developed on the Normandy.  Who knows how much of that got back to Cerberus?


Uh huh, yeah. I'm sure things developed on the Normandy don't get back to Cerberus.

You never know!  I might have had it researched after telling the Illusive Man to space himself.  :whistle:

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I'm calling tldr on this thread in order to add my own posting without reading 60+ pages of people calling each other idiots. :D

Personally, I destroyed the base. Handing them a Reaper assembly plant with all the technology for building their own human reaper didn't sound like a good idea given the number of times I've had to close down "rogue operations" in ME1 and constantly having to deal with indoctrinated researchers to boot. Examining past track records, the likely ending was that I'd have to make my way BACK through the Omega-14 relay (which wasn't fun the first time) to take them out for the good of everyone else as well as deal with the Reapers regardless of whether they joined the Reapers or just tried to establish human Cerberus dominance using Reaper tech. Conventional weapons have killed everything they've thrown at me so far, including Sovereign. Most Reaper tech I've actually used has just been transportation.