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[swordmalice]

What will it take for ME to surpass GoW3?

It would need to turn into Gears of War 4.

[BatmanPWNS]

Have an emotional scene that last longer than 5 seconds.

[slimgrin]

jreezy wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Have an emotional scene that last longer than 5 seconds.

Even Gears of War has done that.

Come on, really?

I want femshep to do some sort of touchdown routine, and I want every male character to weigh approximitely 400 lbs and resemble a gorrilla. Then ME3 surpasses GOW.

Modifié par slimgrin, 02 décembre 2011 - 08:25 .

[phimseto]

What will it take?

Don't concentrate on multiplayer, "dynamic sequences", or using story as a shift from one extended action sequence to another.

Concentrate on the stuff that made Mass Effect so enjoyable to begin with: story, exploration, discovery, conversations, and choices with consequence.

[Oblivious]

The answer: Smoother combat gameplay. Smoother transition from cover, cooler reload animation, improved fluidity in movement, no limit on sprint/bad sprint animation, etc. Basically gameplay 101. ME is already more complex than Gears, but it feels more like an interactive movie than a videogame at times.

ME has the graphics, the story, the presentation, but it lacks the gameplay. Inject it with Epic's legendary talent for gameplay (Heck I find Infinity Blades 2 more fun than ME2) and you've reached perfection!

[Phaedon]

Define "surpass".

Quality is in the eye of the beholder. If you are talking about the combat system alone, I'd say that the use of powers makes ME3 a bit more interesting than GoW3.

[111987]

slimgrin wrote...

jreezy wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Have an emotional scene that last longer than 5 seconds.

Even Gears of War has done that.

Come on, really?

I want femshep to do some sort of touchdown routine, and I want every male character to weigh approximitely 400 lbs and resemble a gorrilla. Then ME3 surpasses GOW.

I'd rather have the male characters be big buff, tough soldier guys then skinny twerps. Because then their feats of strength are realistic.

Unlike FemShep going hand-to-hand against a bloody Yahg...

[alex90c]

slimgrin wrote...

jreezy wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Have an emotional scene that last longer than 5 seconds.

Even Gears of War has done that.

Come on, really?

I want femshep to do some sort of touchdown routine, and I want every male character to weigh approximitely 400 lbs and resemble a gorrilla. Then ME3 surpasses GOW.

I want all my female characters to stroll around in catsuits.

Oh wait, Gears doesn't do that does it? Yep, we have actually found a game that doesn't sexualise female characters and yet you still get badasses like Bernie without going all "femme fatale" on them like with Miranda.

Phaedon wrote...

Define "surpass".

Quality is in the eye of the beholder. If you are talking about the combat system alone, I'd say that the use of powers makes ME3 a bit more interesting than GoW3.

We haven't even played ME3 yet, so there's no point comparing GOW3's gameplay to something we haven't even played yet. Therefore we are safest comparing it to ME2 (to be honest if it makes it fairer we can compare GOW2 instead to ME2), andi f you pit the two games together, GOW still blows ME2 out of the water, and unlike those people (not saying this is you by the way) who are just dismissive and condescending, Gears actually has fun characters and a fairly decent story.

Modifié par alex90c, 02 décembre 2011 - 08:57 .

[slimgrin]

111987 wrote...


I'd rather have the male characters be big buff, tough soldier guys then skinny twerps. Because then their feats of strength are realistic.

Unlike FemShep going hand-to-hand against a bloody Yahg...

I'll take Mass Effect's character design any day over the action figure proportions of GOW.

Modifié par slimgrin, 02 décembre 2011 - 09:06 .

[111987]

slimgrin wrote...

111987 wrote...


I'd rather have the male characters be big buff, tough soldier guys then skinny twerps. Because then their feats of strength are realistic.

Unlike FemShep going hand-to-hand against a bloody Yahg...

I'll take Mass Effect's character design any day over the action figure proportions of GOW.

Really?

Every male human has the exact same body...same with female humans. And every species has one model.

The character design isn't all that exceptional in ME2. But i'll agree to disagree. It's just a matter of opinion/taste.

[happy_daiz]

This debate is still going on? Have you people that are poo-pooing Gears even played it?

[happy_daiz]

^ Is that a foreign term? Sometimes I forget that not everyone speaks the same way I do. 

That translates to...bad-mouthing.

Just a question, nothing more.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 02 décembre 2011 - 09:24 .

[GMagnum]

i use 2 think that i culd not go on
n life wus nothin but an awful song
but nw i know da meanin of tru luv
im leanin on da everlasting arms

if i cn see it den i can do it
if i jus believe it deres nothin to it

i belive i cn fly i belive i cn touch da sky
i think bout it ever nite n day spred my wing n fly awai
i belive i can soar i se me runnin thru da open door
i belive i cn fly i belive i cn fly i belive i cn fly woo tbh

[Cutlass Jack]

What would it take? Being released would about cover it.

[GodWood]

What will it take for ME3 to surpass Gears of War 3?

It needs to stop trying to be like Gears of War 3.

Modifié par GodWood, 02 décembre 2011 - 09:35 .

[111987]

GodWood wrote...

What will it take for ME3 to surpass Gears of War 3?

It needs to stop trying to be like Gears of War 3.

When it comes to shooter gameplay (which is the basis of the comparison), it should.

[alex90c]

GodWood wrote...

What will it take for ME3 to surpass Gears of War 3?

It needs to stop trying to be like Gears of War 3.

Actually Bioware should be trying to emulate as much of Gears 3's gameplay as possible. Sure, I don't expect them to throw in chainsaws, bayonet charges, fancy executions for downed enemies for every single weapon type and a completely linear storyline where it's impossible to make any decisions or create a character, nor would I want them to (though executions are pretty cool...), but if ME3 could have that same level of mobility during combat and big enough maps to make said mobility possible, and a remotely intelligent AI then I'd be happy.

[Funkcase]

Mass Effect 3 will surpase Gears of War to me if it continues to have a engaging story, interesting characters, great music and a great universe. Both ME1 and ME2 surpassed GoW 1 and 2 to me easily in every way except combat, and tbh they may just be even better in some regard when it comes to combat due to replayabilty thanks to having different classes.

Modifié par Funkcase, 02 décembre 2011 - 09:55 .

[whywhywhywhy]

jreezy wrote...

Dasher1010 wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

This seems like a pointless question to me because GOW is a shooter and ME is a RPG. I would certainly hope the combat is better in GOW because that's all the game has. ME is a RPG based around choices effecting the story. If you're picking up ME games hoping they'll blow away GOW's combat then you might be mentally challenged.

1. Mass Effect is a cover shooter with RPG elements. It's not Final Fantasy VII or Arcanum. Don't kid yourself. Also, why shouln't I be able to have fun between point A and point B?

I've been saying this for a while now: It's like RPG purists wanted Mass Effect to settle for mediocrity with one of their most important elements.

Couldn't be further from the truth in my case.  I just wanted(and I think I mention this before) the improvements to be across the board instead of heavily focused in one area.