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What Will it Take for ME3 to Surpass GoW3?


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Nothing. ME3 does not need to be better than GoW3 because they are almost nothing alike. Besides the shooty portions.

The object should to be a good game to be a good game, not a good game to beat out the "competition."


^This, GOW never tried to compete with ME in the first place

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Who cares about GOW when it comes to ME?

The two have nothing to do with each other. Trying to somehow "beat" unrelated games is just another way to make sure your own game sucks.

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If Bioware wanted ME3 to have better gameplay then GOW3 for me they'd scrap the whole '3rd person shooter' nonsense and make it a turn-based strategy game.


Turn-based? Like... Final Fantasy?

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"Oh hell no!!" indeed.

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Who cares about GOW when it comes to ME?

The two have nothing to do with each other. Trying to somehow "beat" unrelated games is just another way to make sure your own game sucks.

   



The Gears of War franchise is the standard that all TPS games will be measured by and frankly the Mass Effect games completely suck from a TPS shooting game play part . ME 3 has no chance in hell of beating Gears 3 in anything . 

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Well Gears doesn't have enemies dropping from the sky, and random spawning enemies. Also they duck when running instead of sprinting straight through fire.

Edit: One more thing in Gears they don't make every other firefight like horde mode where you have to last waves of enemies.

I'm only commenting on the combat.

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Who cares about GOW when it comes to ME?

The two have nothing to do with each other. Trying to somehow "beat" unrelated games is just another way to make sure your own game sucks.

   



The Gears of War franchise is the standard that all TPS games will be measured by and frankly the Mass Effect games completely suck from a TPS shooting game play part . ME 3 has no chance in hell of beating Gears 3 in anything . 

At the bolded: No it's not.

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jreezy wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Who cares about GOW when it comes to ME?

The two have nothing to do with each other. Trying to somehow "beat" unrelated games is just another way to make sure your own game sucks.

   



The Gears of War franchise is the standard that all TPS games will be measured by and frankly the Mass Effect games completely suck from a TPS shooting game play part . ME 3 has no chance in hell of beating Gears 3 in anything . 

At the bolded: No it's not.

For better or worse, it is.

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jreezy wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Who cares about GOW when it comes to ME?

The two have nothing to do with each other. Trying to somehow "beat" unrelated games is just another way to make sure your own game sucks.

   



The Gears of War franchise is the standard that all TPS games will be measured by and frankly the Mass Effect games completely suck from a TPS shooting game play part . ME 3 has no chance in hell of beating Gears 3 in anything . 

At the bolded: No it's not.

     




It is anyone that says differently does not want to admit that it changed the way everyone looked at TPS games with Gears of War 1 . If the shooting in ME 3 is ****** poor people will rage about it after playing Gears 3 . because Gears is the standard in TPS games period

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jreezy wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Who cares about GOW when it comes to ME?

The two have nothing to do with each other. Trying to somehow "beat" unrelated games is just another way to make sure your own game sucks.

   



The Gears of War franchise is the standard that all TPS games will be measured by and frankly the Mass Effect games completely suck from a TPS shooting game play part . ME 3 has no chance in hell of beating Gears 3 in anything . 

At the bolded: No it's not.

For better or worse, it is.

No seriously, it's not. He said ALL third-person shooters. I highly doubt critics give any kind of crap about Gears of War when they play a game like Saints Row. If he had specified and said Third-Person cover shooters I would have agreed.

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Seeing as how ME is only now adding features that were already standard in Gears 1 like rolling and going from cover to cover, Bioware hasn't a chance in hell of surpassing the third one.

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I just noticed when you climb on to cover you stand straight up, shouldn't you slide and stay in cover? There are alot of combat aspects that have to improve before you can compare with Gears combat.

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 What will it take for GoW3 to surpass ME3? a Lot.

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jreezy wrote...

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jreezy wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Who cares about GOW when it comes to ME?

The two have nothing to do with each other. Trying to somehow "beat" unrelated games is just another way to make sure your own game sucks.

   



The Gears of War franchise is the standard that all TPS games will be measured by and frankly the Mass Effect games completely suck from a TPS shooting game play part . ME 3 has no chance in hell of beating Gears 3 in anything . 

At the bolded: No it's not.

For better or worse, it is.

No seriously, it's not. He said ALL third-person shooters. I highly doubt critics give any kind of crap about Gears of War when they play a game like Saints Row. If he had specified and said Third-Person cover shooters I would have agreed.

Sure, it's played in third person and has shooting elements, but Saints Row isn't a third person shooter.

As for the term of "third-person cover shooter", that has become synonymous with TPS ever since the original Gears.

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meiwow2 wrote...

 What will it take for GoW3 to surpass ME3? a Lot.

   


Oh Please ask anyone on the street who Marcus Fenix is they can tell you. Ask someone on the street who Shepard I bet no one can tell you . thats the difference from being a main stream thing that people know to being a character in a video game 

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jreezy wrote...

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jreezy wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Who cares about GOW when it comes to ME?

The two have nothing to do with each other. Trying to somehow "beat" unrelated games is just another way to make sure your own game sucks.

   



The Gears of War franchise is the standard that all TPS games will be measured by and frankly the Mass Effect games completely suck from a TPS shooting game play part . ME 3 has no chance in hell of beating Gears 3 in anything . 

At the bolded: No it's not.

For better or worse, it is.

No seriously, it's not. He said ALL third-person shooters. I highly doubt critics give any kind of crap about Gears of War when they play a game like Saints Row. If he had specified and said Third-Person cover shooters I would have agreed.

Sure, it's played in third person and has shooting elements, but Saints Row isn't a third person shooter.

As for the term of "third-person cover shooter", that has become synonymous with TPS ever since the original Gears.

Now that I've thought about it, you have a very good point there.

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jreezy wrote...

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jreezy wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Who cares about GOW when it comes to ME?

The two have nothing to do with each other. Trying to somehow "beat" unrelated games is just another way to make sure your own game sucks.

   



The Gears of War franchise is the standard that all TPS games will be measured by and frankly the Mass Effect games completely suck from a TPS shooting game play part . ME 3 has no chance in hell of beating Gears 3 in anything . 

At the bolded: No it's not.

For better or worse, it is.

No seriously, it's not. He said ALL third-person shooters. I highly doubt critics give any kind of crap about Gears of War when they play a game like Saints Row. If he had specified and said Third-Person cover shooters I would have agreed.

   



Saints Row is not even in the same league as the Gears of War games

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jreezy wrote...

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jreezy wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Who cares about GOW when it comes to ME?

The two have nothing to do with each other. Trying to somehow "beat" unrelated games is just another way to make sure your own game sucks.

   



The Gears of War franchise is the standard that all TPS games will be measured by and frankly the Mass Effect games completely suck from a TPS shooting game play part . ME 3 has no chance in hell of beating Gears 3 in anything . 

At the bolded: No it's not.

For better or worse, it is.

No seriously, it's not. He said ALL third-person shooters. I highly doubt critics give any kind of crap about Gears of War when they play a game like Saints Row. If he had specified and said Third-Person cover shooters I would have agreed.

   



Saints Row is not even in the same league as the Gears of War games

What league? I'll just paraphrase what I said before. Who gives a crap about Gears of War when they're playing Saints Row?

Modifié par jreezy, 04 décembre 2011 - 05:15 .


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CerberusWarrior wrote...

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Who cares about GOW when it comes to ME?

The two have nothing to do with each other. Trying to somehow "beat" unrelated games is just another way to make sure your own game sucks.

   

The Gears of War franchise is the standard that all TPS games will be measured by and frankly the Mass Effect games completely suck from a TPS shooting game play part . ME 3 has no chance in hell of beating Gears 3 in anything . 


Again, who cares?  ME and GoW are two different games, two different sorts of games.  ME shouldn't try to be or "beat" GoW any more than GoW should try to be or "beat" ME. 

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 What will it take for GoW3 to surpass ME3? a Lot.

   

Oh Please ask anyone on the street who Marcus Fenix is they can tell you. Ask someone on the street who Shepard I bet no one can tell you . thats the difference from being a main stream thing that people know to being a character in a video game 


Who the deuce is Marcus Fenix?  Some character from GoW, right? 

(PS, the average person on the street has no bloody idea who Marcus Fenix or Shepard are.)

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Seboist wrote...

Seeing as how ME is only now adding features that were already standard in Gears 1 like rolling and going from cover to cover, Bioware hasn't a chance in hell of surpassing the third one.


Rolling around like an idiot is exactly why ME should not try to be a goofball lolzy shooter like GoW.

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Seeing as how ME is only now adding features that were already standard in Gears 1 like rolling and going from cover to cover, Bioware hasn't a chance in hell of surpassing the third one.


Rolling around like an idiot is exactly why ME should not try to be a goofball lolzy shooter like GoW.


Wow. There's no reason Mass Effect shouldn't try to emulate the combat portions of GoW gameplay. Combat rolls make player movement more fluid, as does moving from cover to cover.

If Mass Effect 3 had the same combat gameplay as Gears 3, plus the great story, expansive dialogue, powers, etc...that Mass Effect is known for, ME3 would probably be one the greatest games of all time.

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"Combat rolls" are pathetic Hollywood bullcrap.

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111987 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Seeing as how ME is only now adding features that were already standard in Gears 1 like rolling and going from cover to cover, Bioware hasn't a chance in hell of surpassing the third one.


Rolling around like an idiot is exactly why ME should not try to be a goofball lolzy shooter like GoW.


Wow. There's no reason Mass Effect shouldn't try to emulate the combat portions of GoW gameplay. Combat rolls make player movement more fluid, as does moving from cover to cover.

If Mass Effect 3 had the same combat gameplay as Gears 3, plus the great story, expansive dialogue, powers, etc...that Mass Effect is known for, ME3 would probably be one the greatest games of all time.


Agreed! I can't tell you how many times I wanted to escape a missle, or get away from a husk. Rolling and being able to turn around fast would help.