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[CerberusWarrior]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

MarchWaltz wrote...

In my opinion, it already has.

AND I NEVER PLAYED GOW3!

Seriously though, I know for a fact I will enjoy it more than I would enjoy GOW (if I would play it). The simple fact is I know ME3 will be richer in story (mainly because it is MY shepard) and will last me longer than...what? 10 hours?

Usually, I am not interested in MP, but the MP for ME3 sounds up my alley, since they are throwing in RPG elements into the mix.

To wrap it up, in my -->OPINION<--, I know it will be better.

  


You can have a great story and characters but if the game play sucks which ME 1 and 2 both suck when it comes to game play then what do you really have nothing . Halo has a crappy story but it has great game play . Gears of War games have awesome game play and gun play but the story is not as good.

Really?  Because I consider GoW and HALO utterly unplayable.

   



That may be how you view those games but ask yourself  this why do people get hyped over Gears and Halo its because of the game play .  The ME games may have a good story and characters but with out good game play there is not much of a game then is there .  Bioware was given a free pass for ME 1 and 2 based on story but really the game play is complete crap.  any other game that has had 2 games with ****** poor game play would have been slaughted by the games media and us gamers . Its time we hold Bioware to the same standards as we hold all other games to. Gears of War games are the 3rd person games that ME games will be measured by and thats just the cold hard truth

[TheSweetGirl]

jreezy wrote...

TheSweetGirl wrote...

It shouldn't have to as they are two different franchises.

ME is a RPG with shooter elements while GOW is a shooter.

Differences, people. Differences.

We're discussing their similarities though.

Oh! I apologize. I guess I read the thread wrong. Again, I apologize.

[AwakenxBenihime]

MarchWaltz wrote...

In my opinion, it already has.

AND I NEVER PLAYED GOW3!

Seriously though, I know for a fact I will enjoy it more than I would enjoy GOW (if I would play it). The simple fact is I know ME3 will be richer in story (mainly because it is MY shepard) and will last me longer than...what? 10 hours?

Usually, I am not interested in MP, but the MP for ME3 sounds up my alley, since they are throwing in RPG elements into the mix.

To wrap it up, in my -->OPINION<--, I know it will be better.

Almost all of the major MP has RPG elements now. Halo, COD, Battlefield, and even AC Brotherhood all have leveling systems and power ups depending on how you play. I see nothing new in Mass Effect MP and I think they wasted their time, which they could've been using it on single player gameplay. They also wasted time with Kinect because we all know we won't be using voice controls. They scrapped that anyway. Mark my words the majority of the gamers will play MP a couple times and go back to SP. Since alot of people won't want to play only a weak Horde mode for exp. Your friends aren't going to play it over and over. Also the story for the MP can't be anything compelling if there is one.

[Killjoy Cutter]

CerberusWarrior wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

MarchWaltz wrote...

In my opinion, it already has.

AND I NEVER PLAYED GOW3!

Seriously though, I know for a fact I will enjoy it more than I would enjoy GOW (if I would play it). The simple fact is I know ME3 will be richer in story (mainly because it is MY shepard) and will last me longer than...what? 10 hours?

Usually, I am not interested in MP, but the MP for ME3 sounds up my alley, since they are throwing in RPG elements into the mix.

To wrap it up, in my -->OPINION<--, I know it will be better.

  


You can have a great story and characters but if the game play sucks which ME 1 and 2 both suck when it comes to game play then what do you really have nothing . Halo has a crappy story but it has great game play . Gears of War games have awesome game play and gun play but the story is not as good.

Really?  Because I consider GoW and HALO utterly unplayable.

   


That may be how you view those games but ask yourself  this why do people get hyped over Gears and Halo its because of the game play .  The ME games may have a good story and characters but with out good game play there is not much of a game then is there .  Bioware was given a free pass for ME 1 and 2 based on story but really the game play is complete crap.  any other game that has had 2 games with ****** poor game play would have been slaughted by the games media and us gamers . Its time we hold Bioware to the same standards as we hold all other games to. Gears of War games are the 3rd person games that ME games will be measured by and thats just the cold hard truth

Some people get hyped over GoW and HALO for the same reason they get hyped over every other braindead shooter ever made.  Yay, twitch-fest!  "Dudebro, I got some beers and I'm on the way, load up HALO!  Dudebro!" 

[BatmanPWNS]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

CerberusWarrior wrote...

MarchWaltz wrote...

In my opinion, it already has.

AND I NEVER PLAYED GOW3!

Seriously though, I know for a fact I will enjoy it more than I would enjoy GOW (if I would play it). The simple fact is I know ME3 will be richer in story (mainly because it is MY shepard) and will last me longer than...what? 10 hours?

Usually, I am not interested in MP, but the MP for ME3 sounds up my alley, since they are throwing in RPG elements into the mix.

To wrap it up, in my -->OPINION<--, I know it will be better.

  


You can have a great story and characters but if the game play sucks which ME 1 and 2 both suck when it comes to game play then what do you really have nothing . Halo has a crappy story but it has great game play . Gears of War games have awesome game play and gun play but the story is not as good.

Really?  Because I consider GoW and HALO utterly unplayable.

   


That may be how you view those games but ask yourself  this why do people get hyped over Gears and Halo its because of the game play .  The ME games may have a good story and characters but with out good game play there is not much of a game then is there .  Bioware was given a free pass for ME 1 and 2 based on story but really the game play is complete crap.  any other game that has had 2 games with ****** poor game play would have been slaughted by the games media and us gamers . Its time we hold Bioware to the same standards as we hold all other games to. Gears of War games are the 3rd person games that ME games will be measured by and thats just the cold hard truth

Some people get hyped over GoW and HALO for the same reason they get hyped over every other braindead shooter ever made.  Yay, twitch-fest!  "Dudebro, I got some beers and I'm on the way, load up HALO!  Dudebro!" 

If you think that's how shooter fans talk then you sure don't know anything about them.

[Killjoy Cutter]

AwakenxBenihime wrote...

MarchWaltz wrote...

In my opinion, it already has.

AND I NEVER PLAYED GOW3!

Seriously though, I know for a fact I will enjoy it more than I would enjoy GOW (if I would play it). The simple fact is I know ME3 will be richer in story (mainly because it is MY shepard) and will last me longer than...what? 10 hours?

Usually, I am not interested in MP, but the MP for ME3 sounds up my alley, since they are throwing in RPG elements into the mix.

To wrap it up, in my -->OPINION<--, I know it will be better.

Almost all of the major MP has RPG elements now. Halo, COD, Battlefield, and even AC Brotherhood all have leveling systems and power ups depending on how you play. I see nothing new in Mass Effect MP and I think they wasted their time, which they could've been using it on single player gameplay. They also wasted time with Kinect because we all know we won't be using voice controls. They scrapped that anyway. Mark my words the majority of the gamers will play MP a couple times and go back to SP. Since alot of people won't want to play only a weak Horde mode for exp. Your friends aren't going to play it over and over. Also the story for the MP can't be anything compelling if there is one.

I have to clench my teeth and count to ten every time someone says "RPG elements" and then refers to irrelevent garbage such leveling up and power ups.   Those are not the things that make an RPG.

[Killjoy Cutter]

You've never heard of the Dudebro gamers?

[Unschuld]

What Will it Take for ME3 to Surpass GoW3?

A shifty looking cow.

[Genshie]

I really wish people stop talking about Gears of War 3 on a Mass Effect forum made for Mass Effect 3. I like the gameplay of Gears of War 3 but between that and Mass Effect it is like comparing apples and oranges. (Two completely different things with different flavor, texture, color, and ect. The only thing they really have in common is that they are both fruit and grow on trees)

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

jreezy wrote...
Um...What were you trying to say here exactly?

Isn't a TPS a game where you actually have to aim at things and shoot them most of the game?
Because is that's so, as you can do almost all the game without aiming nor shooting, I would not call the ME series a TPS.

Modifié par Kakita Tatsumaru, 05 décembre 2011 - 10:39 .

[Eckswhyzee]

Luc0s wrote...

ME2's gameplay is awesome because:

ME2 = GoW + Powers/Abilities

The whole idea of mixing GoW's superior gameplay with RPG elements, resulting in ME2 (and ME3), is pretty genius and it works like a charm in my opinion.

The only thing that ME2 misses is speed. ME2 still feels slow and limited compared to GoW. Gears of War is faster and it gives you more freedom in moving around. But it seems BioWare watched and learned from GoW, as I saw a similar move-system in the ME3 demo's.

This +100

The only reason I'm not more of a GOW fan is that the universe isn't really to my taste and I personally find the visual style a bit meh. However ME3 looks like it could be GOW TPS mechanics + Mass Effect powers + awesome story and universe = winsauce.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Luc0s wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Really?  Because I consider GoW and HALO utterly unplayable.

Maybe if you'd suck less you'd realize that Gears of War's gameplay is smoother and over-all better than Mass Effect's gameplay, .

A) Still find GoW unplayable.
Did I kick your favorite game or something?

[HowlHowl]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

If you think that's how shooter fans talk then you sure don't know anything about them.

Not all of them, just the ones that actually buy into the XBOX IS GOD BRO GREEN THINGS AND DORITOS schemes.

On topic, all ME3 would have to do to surpass GoW3 is speed it up and be closer to ME or ME2 than GoW3 is. Easy.

Modifié par HowlHowl, 05 décembre 2011 - 09:59 .

[xxSgt_Reed_24xx]

MarchWaltz wrote...

In my opinion, it already has.

AND I NEVER PLAYED GOW3!

Any of your thoughts on the topic are now invalid. You can't compare things when you only know of one of them.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Luc0s wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Really?  Because I consider GoW and HALO utterly unplayable.

Maybe if you'd suck less you'd realize that Gears of War's gameplay is smoother and over-all better than Mass Effect's gameplay, .

A) Still find GoW unplayable.
Did I kick your favorite game or something?

A) Then that problem lies with you, not with the game.

It's definately the game.  There's nothing to it, bog standard brainless console shooter.  It's designed for and has vanilla mass accesability as a beer-and-chips game.  It's just a bunch of steroid freaks in Hollywood combat getups running around blasting things.    Dudebro.  Implied grotch-grab. 


(EDIT:  typo)

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 06 décembre 2011 - 05:16 .

[Dean_the_Young]

Bear-and-chips game?

That explains so much...

[alex90c]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Luc0s wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Really?  Because I consider GoW and HALO utterly unplayable.

Maybe if you'd suck less you'd realize that Gears of War's gameplay is smoother and over-all better than Mass Effect's gameplay, .

A) Still find GoW unplayable.
Did I kick your favorite game or something?

A) Then that problem lies with you, not with the game.

It's definately the game.  There's nothing to it, bog standard brainless console shooter.  It's designed for and has vanilla mass accesability as a bear-and-chips game.  It's just a bunch of steroid freaks in Hollywood combat getups running around blasting things.    Dudebro.  Implied grotch-grab. 

Gears 3 isn't brainless at all. 

All you have to do is look at the Seriously 3.0 achievement to see that the game is *chuckle* geared more towards hardcore players since the requirements to get it are absolutely insane. Then if you go further than that and actually to the gameplay itself,  the singleplayer is pretty damn hard (if they took out the DBNO system players would have to reload a gazillion times like in the previous Gears games because they're tough) and the multiplayer, seriously that is murderously unforgiving. I've been playing shooters for the past eight years and I only have a 0.8 K/D ratio.

And if you would get off your high horse, you'd realise that there are actually fun characters an interesting story, and an interesting (though apocalyptic, and I'd never want to live on Sera) setting. Sure, you kill a load of stuff, it's a shooter for crying out loud, but there's quite a bit more to it than that. And to be honest, I'd take a bunch of massive herculean blokes going around murdering stuff decked out in heavy armour rather than Mass Effect 2's catsuits (yep, that's another thing, the Gears series doesn't sexualise, hell I don't think I saw any ****** whatsoever in all three games).

tl;dr, the truth is the game isn't to your taste, not that the game itself sucks (if it did why does it have a 91/100 & 91.89% score on its Wikipedia page?)

[Kaiser Shepard]

Il Divo wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...


Really?  Because I consider GoW and HALO utterly unplayable.

Agreed, on the Gears of War bit.

Then how can you play this series from ME2 onward?

DominusVita wrote...

What Will it Take for ME3 to Surpass GoW3?

Huge explosions, and partial nudity. 

I should've said that before the thread hit 17 pages - now you know.

But Mass Effect already "surpasses" Gears of War in those areas?

TheSweetGirl wrote...

It shouldn't have to as they are two different franchises. 

ME is a RPG with shooter elements while GOW is a shooter.

Differences, people. Differences.

ME is a TPS with RPG elements, whereas GoW is a TPS with actual choice/consequence.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 06 décembre 2011 - 04:29 .

[111987]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

]ME is a TPS with RPG elements, whereas GoW is a TPS with actual choice/consequence.

Oh come on. Choosing whether or not to take the left or the right path doesn't place GoW on the same level, or above Mass Effect, when it comes to actual choices and consequences.

[C9316]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
ME is a TPS with RPG elements, whereas GoW is a TPS with actual choice/consequence.

Well I think we can all see now that you're just trolling. Good day sir...

[Kaiser Shepard]

111987 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

]ME is a TPS with RPG elements, whereas GoW is a TPS with actual choice/consequence.

Oh come on. Choosing whether or not to take the left or the right path doesn't place GoW on the same level, or above Mass Effect, when it comes to actual choices and consequences.

It does place GoW above ME, because it surpasses anything we've seen when it comes to c/c in the latter so far. I make a decision, and something immediately happens. I actually get something tangible, instead of some half-assed promise of it all meaning something two whole games later. Something that actually encourages multiple playthroughs, because you know you haven't seen everything the game has to offer during your first.

Even better: both paths are equally valid over in Gears, and the game doesn't go out of its way to tell you that all past decisions of a certain direction were wrong.

C9316 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...
ME is a TPS with RPG elements, whereas GoW is a TPS with actual choice/consequence.

Well I think we can all see now that you're just trolling. Good day sir...

I most certainly am not trolling, nor would I even dare to when it comes to a subject like this.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 06 décembre 2011 - 05:15 .