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[Drone223]

jreezy wrote...

Drone223 wrote...

alex90c wrote...

I don't see why people think comparing ME2's gameplay to other shooters is actually a bad thing. I mean, if ME3's combat ended up basically being a Gears clone, that would be incredible since Gears 3 ha some seriously amazing combat.

The problem is the hate for Gears of war on BSN because its "for casual gamer's"

You're probably serious, which is sad on so many levels.

Well people tend to relate the casual crowd with GOW/CoD and Halo

Modifié par Drone223, 01 décembre 2011 - 10:51 .

[Someone With Mass]

Considering that Gears of War has had a running streak of having those Seriously achievements, in which you must kill an insane amount of people, I don't think it's that casual.

A casual game is more a game anyone can pick up and be good at, like...Saints Row.

[Drone223]

^Then I'm proberly saying it wrong
 
GOW, CoD, Halo will sell millions, people don't like that sort of audeince 

[Drone223]

Luc0s wrote...

Drone223 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Drone223 wrote...

alex90c wrote...

I don't see why people think comparing ME2's gameplay to other shooters is actually a bad thing. I mean, if ME3's combat ended up basically being a Gears clone, that would be incredible since Gears 3 ha some seriously amazing combat.

The problem is the hate for Gears of war on BSN because its "for casual gamer's"

You're probably serious, which is sad on so many levels.

Well people tend to relate the casual crowd with GOW/CoD and Halo

The fact that you name CoW and CoD within one sentence, only seprated with a '/' is just insulting (for GoW).

Your right I'll try not to do that again

[Drone223]

If I'm being a troll or arrogent then I'm sorry, Its just that, gaming is starting to become about your either "hardcore" or "casual" I've rented GOW 3 a few days ago, its a great game, and yes CoD is very over rated. I just missed the days when gaming was playing it becuase its fun

Modifié par Drone223, 01 décembre 2011 - 11:02 .

[Someone With Mass]

jreezy wrote...
I'm not a casual gamer by any means but Saints Row: The Third gets pretty tough on Normal difficulty at some points. I'd hate to try playing it on Hard.

True, but still. It wasn't that difficult to get the hang of it.

[Il Divo]

alex90c wrote...

I don't see why people think comparing ME2's gameplay to other shooters is actually a bad thing. I mean, if ME3's combat ended up basically being a Gears clone, that would be incredible since Gears 3 ha some seriously amazing combat.

Probably because association with Gears will allow the "Mass Effect is moving away from its roots" position to gain strength, despite the series having been heavily inspired by Gears even in ME1. That was a prettyimportant point pushed by some regarding the inventory/lack of RPG mechanics in ME2. I can appreciate that perspective, but I still consider the combat in ME2 to be absolutely superior to ME1, so I don't have much room for complaint on that point. If being an RPG/tps hybrid results in more gameplay similar to ME1, perhaps the greater emphasis on tps elements is for the best.   

Modifié par Il Divo, 01 décembre 2011 - 11:07 .

[Andarthiel_Demigod]

The ME series has already surpassed GoW series. It's not just your everyday Third Person Shooter, it has RPG and exploration elements. Plus it actually  has a well written plot and interesting(non-archetype) characters. Whereas Gears of War has the most dull plot and bland characters that are clearly ripping off so many previous games and franchises.

[DiebytheSword]

lightsnow13 wrote...

I think the hate on shooters is simply because it's just a shooter. BF3/CoD are not known for their stories but rather their multiplayer. GoW series is known for both (tbh, I hear more about the singleplayer experience. Not the story (although the story is just fine) but the singleplayer experience).

I think the people on BSN need to realize that just because someone plays a shooter game doesn't mean "hur durr iam durmb." That's probably the biggest irritation for me. That was the excuse for the action mode and why it shouldn't be included. ME3 may not be up to par with GoW 3. That's fine. It's not known for the combat. However, the doesn't mean the combat will not be fun. I think it will be a lot of fun actually. What GoW does lack are abilities and the deep customization of abilities. Biotics and tech are what make the game different.

I don't know about anyone else...but I loved the combat in ME2. I'm excited to have even better combat and the ability to play with people in ME3.

QFT.

I've played FPS games since the dawn of their existance, and playing something like CoD after starting on something like Wolfenstein (the original one, mind you) makes CoD akin to a religious experience.  That's not to say the game is to everyone's taste, but hopefully you get my point.  At one point in time, games were a very different thing then they are now, and these days they are all blurring the lines a bit.

That said, I'm stoked for ME3 Multi.

[Drone223]

Luc0s wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

jreezy wrote...
I'm not a casual gamer by any means but Saints Row: The Third gets pretty tough on Normal difficulty at some points. I'd hate to try playing it on Hard.

True, but still. It wasn't that difficult to get the hang of it.

And Mass Effect is difficult to get the hang of it? I don't think so.

Seriously, people should stop with the 'casual' and 'hardcore' bullcrap. There is no such thing as 'casual games' and 'hardcore games' anymore. Those days are long gone. These days, we have 'games that sell millions of copies', and 'games that don't sell millions of copies'.

But selling millions of copies doesn't mean the game is casual.

Also, not selling millions of copies also doesn't mean the game is hardcore.

Sadly you don't have to look far to see that sort debate, its even here on BSN, the same can be said for the PC/PS3/360 war, its just becoming childish, games are ment to be played because they are fun not because they are "Hardcore" like you said

Modifié par Drone223, 01 décembre 2011 - 11:18 .

[TheInvicibleCandyBar]

lightsnow13 wrote...

I think the hate on shooters is simply because it's just a shooter. BF3/CoD are not known for their stories but rather their multiplayer. GoW series is known for both (tbh, I hear more about the singleplayer experience. Not the story (although the story is just fine) but the singleplayer experience).

I think the people on BSN need to realize that just because someone plays a shooter game doesn't mean "hur durr iam durmb." That's probably the biggest irritation for me. That was the excuse for the action mode and why it shouldn't be included. ME3 may not be up to par with GoW 3. That's fine. It's not known for the combat. However, the doesn't mean the combat will not be fun. I think it will be a lot of fun actually. What GoW does lack are abilities and the deep customization of abilities. Biotics and tech are what make the game different.

I don't know about anyone else...but I loved the combat in ME2. I'm excited to have even better combat and the ability to play with people in ME3.

Thank you sir/madam for that wonderful post. As a person who loves all types of games, it annoys me to no end when i make a comment about liking a shooter focused game and someone, as you eloquentily put it, says "hur durr yer durmb". Again, thank you.

[Drone223]

lightsnow13 wrote...

I think the hate on shooters is simply because it's just a shooter. BF3/CoD are not known for their stories but rather their multiplayer. GoW series is known for both (tbh, I hear more about the singleplayer experience. Not the story (although the story is just fine) but the singleplayer experience).

I think the people on BSN need to realize that just because someone plays a shooter game doesn't mean "hur durr iam durmb." That's probably the biggest irritation for me. That was the excuse for the action mode and why it shouldn't be included. ME3 may not be up to par with GoW 3. That's fine. It's not known for the combat. However, the doesn't mean the combat will not be fun. I think it will be a lot of fun actually. What GoW does lack are abilities and the deep customization of abilities. Biotics and tech are what make the game different.

I don't know about anyone else...but I loved the combat in ME2. I'm excited to have even better combat and the ability to play with people in ME3.

You are 200% correct 

*Insert Cookie here* 

Modifié par Drone223, 01 décembre 2011 - 11:28 .

[ObserverStatus]

Alex_SM wrote...

I still think Fallout 2 is better that 99% of games of this generation.

I still think that New Vegas and Fallout 1 are both better than Fallout 2.

[lauda69]

both games are great for what they area, gow and ME, whitle they can be compared on the basis of combat mechanics they area essentially, 2 completely differnt games, mass effect is revolutionary is its overall style of game play while gears has always felt like contra on roids, great game though just not really original. ME is top to bottom amazing, im not of the over opinionated mind to believe i am a video game critic but i have been playing video games since atari and ME is by far one of the best i have play, and i have played everything from e.t. on atari to skyim

[Drone223]

Luc0s wrote...

Andarthiel_Demigod wrote...

The ME series has already surpassed GoW series. It's not just your everyday Third Person Shooter, it has RPG and exploration elements. Plus it actually  has a well written plot and interesting(non-archetype) characters. Whereas Gears of War has the most dull plot and bland characters that are clearly ripping off so many previous games and franchises.

Wow, your extreme bias is through the roof. What you say couldn't be more wrong though.

Mass Effect has a good plot? Don't make me laugh. Yes, Mass Effect 1 had a well-written plot and interesting non-archetype character. But Mass Effect 2? Mass Effect 2 doesn't eve have a real plot, and the characters are more archetype than Gears of War.

Gears of War 2 and 3 both have a (way) better plot than Mass Effect 2.

And the characters in Mass Effect 2? They're way more archetypical than Gears's characters. How can you look at Miranda and Jacob and say they aren't cliché archetypes? Same can be said about Jack. Even Tali has become somewhat of an cliché archetype in ME2.


Please, get real and take off those fanboy/girl glasses.

Agreed Luc0s, ME2 missions where very repetative, I'll may as well be saving the galaxy from mercs instead of the collector's, mercs where like 80-90% of the total enimies in ME2 and they where just filler, The Locust and Lambert serverd their purpose well in GOW as enimies

Modifié par Drone223, 01 décembre 2011 - 11:39 .