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[ColorMeSuprised]

Klidi wrote...

That's because we are ridiculously awesome.

I love you.

Ah, so we are being called the "Asunder people". How cute!

Modifié par ColorMeSuprised, 03 février 2012 - 12:44 .

[tklivory]

ColorMeSuprised wrote...

Klidi wrote...

That's because we are ridiculously awesome.

I love you.

Ah, so we are being called the "Asunder people". How cute!

Oh, I don't know, I also like:

Ridiculously Sundered
Awesomely Asundered (hmmm, AA anyone?  my name is tklivory, and I love to write FF...)
Ridiculously Awesomely Asundered
Writing Wraiths
Magnificent Mavens of Asundering (or MMA)

[Klidi]

That's because it was fun to lurk around that thread and follow the discussion. I didn't participate, so I sort of... didn't feel entitled to join discussion, except for when it was about that plagiarism case.

I'm so glad that the complaints worked and Amazon decided to remove it.

[Tryynity]

I actually would love some thorough concrit on my entry - particularly the negative.

I was extremely happy with my entry - so Ive got past the stage of looking at my writing and knowing stuff is wrong, which means I will stay here if not made aware of how I am received by others. So please knock yourselves out and tear it to shreds.

Here is the link - Alluvial Solace

EDIT - I have enabled anonymous reviews - if you wish to comment anon.

Modifié par Tryynity, 03 février 2012 - 02:00 .

[Klidi]

Maybe we could always have one story every week, which we would give honest feedback - good things, things that we think could be better, or discuss different ways how to do something... every week it would be someone else's story.
Just an idea, though.

[Tryynity]

That sounds like a great idea Klidi

[Mahati]

Hello y'all! I've posted in the Asunder thread too. I'd appreciate any feedback on my story, here's the link.

Besides fanfiction, Has anyone here had their writing published? Just curious! 

[BevH]

tklivory wrote...

Oh, and length to the prompts never matters.  I'm actually trying to do a drabble myself, but keep getting distract--- oo, squirrel!

Focus, TK, focus! (Although it makes me giggle because when you shout "squirrel!" my puppy will run outside to see )

I think picking a story a week to concrit is an excellent idea!

[tklivory]

Since we're talking about concrit, I'd also like to post Corker's blog on the subject in this thread.  Not necessarily trying to set hard and fast rules to follow, but merely as a point to begin consideration of the matter.


And I'm focused.  Very focused.  So focused that-  Ooo, shiny!

Modifié par tklivory, 03 février 2012 - 03:40 .

[Mahati]

AmbraAlhambra wrote...

Klidi wrote...

Maybe we could always have one story every week, which we would give honest feedback - good things, things that we think could be better, or discuss different ways how to do something... every week it would be someone else's story.
Just an idea, though.

I like this idea as well! :happy:

Me too. Really good idea.

[Saqqara]

Hi everyone!

I'm another Asunder-er here to join the fray
I would definitely love any feedback on my stories. The more I write the more I want to do it. I have one FF that I'm working on and the short story for the competition. Both are posted on FF.net. The link should be at the bottom.
Bye for now *slips into lurking in the shadows*

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[BlazePT]

ColorMeSuprised wrote...

Klidi wrote...

That's because we are ridiculously awesome.

I love you.

Ah, so we are being called the "Asunder people". How cute!

Yeap, this is s new village on a unknown region and now, the Asunder people came here to live in peace and harmony

Klidi wrote...

Maybe we could always have one story every week, which we would give honest feedback - good things, things that we think could be better, or discuss different ways how to do something... every week it would be someone else's story. 
Just an idea, though.

Good idea! But oh boy, there goes my time but I suppose I could use the practice

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Hey, everyone. I'm from the Asunder thread as well. It's nice to have a place to talk about writing. I won't be participating in any prompts though. As I've said on the other thread, I have a novel to finish, and whenever I'm able to write, I should stay focused on that.

Klidi wrote...

The 'don't start with the description', for example. I'm sorry, what? The way how to start the story should depend on the type of the story, and for whom it's written, in the way that fits the needs and purpose of the story the best. If description would work the best, then it should be description.
(Here is interesting article ways to open a novel, with lines from books, that I really like, because it shows how people made different things work: 12 Ways to Open Your Novel)

I agree with what you've said here. The first time I read this, I assumed that "description" was talking about the physical stuff like a character's appearance, but looking at it again, I'm starting to wonder if it has a general meaning of opening the story with an introduction to your character (which was one of the 12 listed in your link). If so, then that really doesn't make any sense to me. Why should the reader care about the main character, especially in a short story, if they know nothing about them? I'm not talking "character profile" essay here; I mean an intro to let the reader know a little bit about your character while, at the same time, leading into the events of the story. This is common enough in actual published works that it's really just a matter of personal taste.

I agree that characters need flaws. I don't care about characters that don't have flaws - they don't feel real, there's nothing interesting about them. I especially hate characters that never tell a lie, would rather be eaten by the Archdemon than break their promise and always know how to react and what to say - and it's always something very, very wise. So much that when you ask the author to give you an interesting quote, they will quote these characters (yes, I've seen that).

I think it's all in the way the character is written. These examples could be interesting too, it's just that people could easily do them in a way that makes the character seem unrealistic.

Characters that never tell a lie: What about a character who simply doesn't need to lie? A criminal mastermind who can leave out just the right pieces of information so that everything he says is the truth - but he's only telling half of the truth.

Character who would rather be eaten by the Archdemon than break their promise: Well, it's nice to have noble characters every once in a while, right? One of the few truly good people left? ...Okay, so most of my characters don't exactly fit this mold, but the promise could be really meaningful. A soldier's last promise to protect his family by bravely fighting the Archdemon, even if it means his death, doesn't seem strange at all.

Characters who always know how to react and what to say: If this character was a politician, someone in charge of an army, well-trained royalty, someone very experienced, a seemingly untouchable villain, or perhaps a powerful psychic - I think it could definitely make sense, and in some cases, it would make more sense. I can't imagine some of these characters as the type who often wouldn't know what to do/say, because if they didn't, then they might be in the wrong business. Of course, I don't mean to say that they should always, without a doubt, know the absolute best solution to every situation, but it would seem normal for these guys to be good problem-solvers and very sure of themselves. Sometimes, it can be fun to have a character like this and then present them with something they're not prepared for, a no-win situation where every choice has consequences.

As for my personal opinion about flaws, I like it best when "flaws" fit the character so well that it can't even be considered a flaw anymore - it is simply the way that character is. People have different views about which traits are considered a flaw. Some might feel this way about a character's vengeful nature, but in my case, my favorite characters are normally vengeful, so I definitely don't see that as a bad thing about them. My point is, when a character's flaws just become an integral part of their personality, and a part that makes them interesting and unique, then I wouldn't call it a flaw anymore. And those are the best kind of flaws.

Corker wrote...

 I'm very fond of a protagonist with a few flaws, and not ones like "she's clumsy," or a temper that only flares at the villains.  I mean protagonists who hurt people - their friends, their allies - and then have consequences of that to deal with that aren't totally solved by a heartfelt apology a bit later.  It's hard to do, because who wants to give a protagonist a jerk moment?  But it's unexpected and it lands a punch on the reader.

When I read this, it immediately made me think of Kane, the main character in my short story for the Asunder contest (and also a character that I play in the games). He actually did this in the story. Kane is the type of person who will do almost anything to ensure his survival, even leaving people to die or shooting right through them if it kills the enemy too, and although he has some guilt about this, he's long since made his peace with the way he is (or as he used to see it, the way he has to be).

AmbraAlhambra wrote...

I was looking at the "do the unexpected" statement the same way and thinking the same thing when I read it. I think, like everything in life really, there's a balance. Also you have to understand your audience. Doing an unhappy ending for a romance novel will get you a lot of angry women . Doing that for a short story in the DA universe will seem right at home.

I agree with this too. The unexpected can be great, especially with a well-thought out plot twist, but the audience does have to be considered as well. If you've got people thinking they're going to get a story filled with hope and string them along only to have it end in complete tragedy, you'll have a lot of angry readers who will probably never buy your books again and insult your writing on the internet. xD

Speaking of endings, I have to be honest... I did a happy ending specifically because of that in my story. And I'm sure that is what sunk my story more than anything (I don't like the ending of it myself, I will admit. Ran out of time unfortunately), but if there are SO MANY unhappy ending storylines that at what point does the unhappy/bittersweet ending become mundane?

It seems to me that happy endings kinda get a bad rap, which bothers me a little. I like happy endings, although I think they should be hard-won. Bittersweet and unhappy endings are fine too, and have their places - I'm not saying I don't like them - but I like happy endings more. I see a lot of bittersweet in life already - reading (and writing) is, for me, about escaping into another world or place where things work out even if it's a lot of work for it to do so. Although the ending of a story should have inertia on its own for having that ending, but it seems like the appeal of a story is dimished a bit when there's a happy ending involved which I don't think should be the case.

I would have liked to extend the end of my story a bit and include more detail. It wasn't needed to understand the story, just something that would have been nice to have. There were a few moments I had planned to give even more insight into my characters, but I ran out of room. It did end on a positive note though, with my mage escaping Kirkwall during the battle.

I'm a fan of the hard-won happy ending too. My poor characters go through hell, but at least they can have some good with all the bad and the conflict.

Mahati wrote...

Besides fanfiction, Has anyone here had their writing published? Just curious! 

I'm working on my first novel, which I will be getting published when I finish it. So I guess I'm the opposite of a lot of you guys here - I don't write fanfiction, aside from the Asunder contest entry. I kind of plan "fanfiction" though. All of my game characters have really detailed histories/personalities/opinions, and I like to imagine them all trying to save the world together (which, in DAO's case, would mean all of my Wardens being in the same "playthrough", but with only one of them being a Warden and the others being recruited from their origin areas by that Warden).

And, to end this wall-of-text with some really good news...

Klidi wrote...

That's because it was fun to lurk around that thread and follow the discussion. I didn't participate, so I sort of... didn't feel entitled to join discussion, except for when it was about that plagiarism case.

I'm so glad that the complaints worked and Amazon decided to remove it.

I'm glad to hear that. Justice has been done.

[Mahati]

 @The Sarendoctrinator: Heh, I don't really write fanfiction either. Except, well, for the Asunder entry. That's why I asked  Being a professional writer I have a lot of writing every day though.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Mahati wrote...

 @The Sarendoctrinator: Heh, I don't really write fanfiction either. Except, well, for the Asunder entry. That's why I asked  Being a professional writer I have a lot of writing every day though.

I know quite a few people who would like me to write fanfiction, and it might have been a bit tempting... if I had the time.

What kind of writing do you do? Books, games, magazine, etc?

[Scrimgeour10]

Another Asunderer here...been around since the old Bioware boards, but have only ever lurked here until this competition happened. Mostly because a lot of threads are filled with moaning and complaints. So it's nice to have somewhere that people just want to chat about the story and writing.

[Mahati]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

Mahati wrote...

 @The Sarendoctrinator: Heh, I don't really write fanfiction either. Except, well, for the Asunder entry. That's why I asked  Being a professional writer I have a lot of writing every day though.

I know quite a few people who would like me to write fanfiction, and it might have been a bit tempting... if I had the time.

What kind of writing do you do? Books, games, magazine, etc?

I love creative writing! I'm also a freelance journalist, I write regularly for a newspaper here. Besides that, I'm sometimes commissioned to write for other publications too. Book reviews, feature articles, profiles, articles of general interest, etc, etc. Besides poetry and fiction, of course.

[Mahati]

AmbraAlhambra wrote...

Mahati wrote...
Besides fanfiction, Has anyone here had their writing published? Just curious! 

Nope! I hadn't done any writing at all since high school before I started writing DA FF. I started writing just for the fun of it, and I've really enjoyed it, and it's gotten me thinking that maybe I could try to get something published in the future. I'm tentatively getting a story together to write for a novel... we'll see if it pans out. For now, FF has become a great way for me to practice and just write and grow as a writer and have some fun in the process.

Very interesting! Is that a fantasy story?

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Scrimgeour10 wrote...

Another Asunderer here...been around since the old Bioware boards, but have only ever lurked here until this competition happened. Mostly because a lot of threads are filled with moaning and complaints. So it's nice to have somewhere that people just want to chat about the story and writing.

Yeah, I know the feeling. I try to stay mostly in positive threads. I've been around for a while, but with an older account (which doesn't seem to work anymore after a long break from BSN). 

Mahati wrote...

I love creative writing! I'm also a freelance journalist, I write regularly for a newspaper here. Besides that, I'm sometimes commissioned to write for other publications too. Book reviews, feature articles, profiles, articles of general interest, etc, etc. Besides poetry and fiction, of course.

That's awesome. Any advice for those of us who are trying to get into the habit of writing creatively every day, for many hours a day? I've been having some trouble with that lately (not a very fast writer), but at the same time trying to finish up my novel as fast as possible.

[Mahati]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

Scrimgeour10 wrote...

Another Asunderer here...been around since the old Bioware boards, but have only ever lurked here until this competition happened. Mostly because a lot of threads are filled with moaning and complaints. So it's nice to have somewhere that people just want to chat about the story and writing.

Yeah, I know the feeling. I try to stay mostly in positive threads. I've been around for a while, but with an older account (which doesn't seem to work anymore after a long break from BSN). 

Mahati wrote...

I love creative writing! I'm also a freelance journalist, I write regularly for a newspaper here. Besides that, I'm sometimes commissioned to write for other publications too. Book reviews, feature articles, profiles, articles of general interest, etc, etc. Besides poetry and fiction, of course.

That's awesome. Any advice for those of us who are trying to get into the habit of writing creatively every day, for many hours a day? I've been having some trouble with that lately (not a very fast writer), but at the same time trying to finish up my novel as fast as possible.

Advice from me? Hmm...the easiest way would be to set some sort of schedule, force yourself to stick to that schedule, and write something. Anything. Doesn't matter if it isn't good. Then it'll get a lot easier. 

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Mahati wrote...

Advice from me? Hmm...the easiest way would be to set some sort of schedule, force yourself to stick to that schedule, and write something. Anything. Doesn't matter if it isn't good. Then it'll get a lot easier. 

I'll give it a shot. I do worry about writing when it isn't coming out well though. It makes me feel like I'll only mess up what I've already written. xD (And I'm terrible at sticking to a schedule. I know that's part of the problem.)