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I already hate Mass Effect 3 so much......


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(i am critical in this writing but there is are spoilers. Plz don't cloe it.)





ME = EPIC SPACE OPERA.
ME2 = friends recruiting melodrama. Fun to play, nothing memorable.
ME3 = Gay Shepard's foolish agony of his sexual identity. COD space version.

(I have nothing against the homosexual. I only hate that Shepard has time to spare for his sexual itentity crisis in the galaxy's dire situation.)





Pretty much sums up how I feel about Mass Effect Trilogy.

ME3 will surely be a fun game to play, but it won't be regarded as one of 'epic RPGs' because ME is no longer a RPG game since ME2. With leaked infos, Bioware has already revealed that they have no intention of making this a story oriented game.

One example of Bioware's misdoing is homosexual shepard.

Disclaimer: I'm not against homosexuals at all. In real life, I support the same-sex marriage. But I'm against the fact that Bioware is putting in something that is neither relevant or consistant from previous series. The Alliance is a hostile military organization that decided to open a full-scale war agaisnt the very first alien they encountered(and was attacked by.) Their political stance is definately conservatitve and militarism as seen with their racism and human centric attitude in ME2. I doubt if stubburn-conservative alliance have not descriminated Shepard before he became famous.

Moreover, this kind of work only attenuate a character's characteristic, making Shepard even more dull than he is now. Can you think of an image when I ask you who the protagonist of Oblivion is? No. it's because the game allowed too much freedom in character creation that there is no speicific protagonist.

Likewise, homosexual Shepard will only restrict the variety of dialogues Shepard can use and the personalities he can display.



Bioware doesn't care at all if stories and settings in ME3 make any sense as long as they can sell it to COD infected casual gamers. ME3 would have been so much more epic if they just dropped all these foolish sexual identity crisis and romance affairs(realistically, Shepard shouldn't have any sec to dip into romances and do random dull quests).

Instead of romance mingle-mangles and the routine quests of "do this for us, and our race help you," ME3 should have been a stroy of man(or woman) who is miserably cornered and outnumbered, depressed and afraid of his heavy responsibilities, struggling to find a lay of hope against the impossible odds, using every trick in the book against reapers and abandoning everything of his values in order to just stay alive. One mistake Shepard makes should mean the elimination of an entire race instead of the loss of one of Shepard's teammate.I want different endings to be about which races remain alive instead of which lovers I've chosen and which teamates survived.

Now this is a true epic space opera. Shepard shouldn't be some Godly figure who can win everything wihtout sacraficing any. Shepard should show some human quality of fears, mistakes, and regrets. If he does not, then reapers are not worthy foes to be remembered by gamers for a long time.

But look at what Bioware is doing. Shepard cares so much about reapers that he has to feel agony in his sexual identity, dips into romances with many parners from various races, does mundane quests ranging from a  package delivery to a a rescue of some random people at best.

Sure, players will feel almost depressed and overwhelmed by the threats of the reapers when Shepard roams around  the galaxy, wasting time to gain support from aliens. Yeah, Reapers can be easily defeated even when you start gathering helps after they arrive.

I have no doubts Mass Effect 3 is going to be a great hit in the game market. But I don't expect to see an epic RPG with fantastic stories like planescape torment or KOTOR.

Well, it's not like totally unexpected results. ME2 have become somewhat of a sitcom comedy between characters instead of epic space saga. All recent ME2 DLCs had total disastrous stories.

I am buying this game, but my expectations and excitements are long gone since Dragon Age 2's letdown.








edit: well, taking out things those were not my main points. I don't care if Sheaprd is gay, lesbian, or anything. I care that the game focuses on trivial things in its stroy telling. I hate to see anohter ME2 style melodrama of love, friendship, and character recruitments.

Modifié par IntoTheDarkness, 02 décembre 2011 - 11:44 .


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Man, I wish I weren't going to bed, this looks like it'll be a very interesting thread. I do have to say that OP I doubt you'll get many, if ANY, agreeable responses.

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Genius. Pure genius.

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2/10

no, wait. Make that 3.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Man, I wish I weren't going to bed, this looks like it'll be a very interesting thread. I do have to say that OP I doubt you'll get many, if ANY, agreeable responses.


This. OP needs to brace himself.

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Bad King wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Man, I wish I weren't going to bed, this looks like it'll be a very interesting thread. I do have to say that OP I doubt you'll get many, if ANY, agreeable responses.


This. OP needs to brace himself.

Do you guys not see how genius this is?! On a serious note, instead of bracing himself I think it'd be better if he ran away.

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IntoTheDarkness wrote...

how suitable is a homosexual as the leader and hero to lead a war against reapers?


Stand by, lock imminent. XO Woo has the deck.

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Hua. One sec here. Can I ask one question? Did you guys approve ME2's storyline that heavily focused on character relationship over plot development? Before starting anything I wanna know if our concepts of 'good storyline' is different from each other.

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Woo! Woo! Chuggachuggachuggachugga!

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I see. Shepard could be lesbian, but not gay, That makes sense.

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Who says gay people can't lead or be in the military? After all, don't ask, don't tell was recently repealed in the US armed forces.

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Bioware has already revealed that they have no intention of making this a story oriented game.


:lol::lol:

You're a complete tool

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IntoTheDarkness wrote...


ME3 = Gay Shepard's foolish agony of his sexual identity. COD space version.


Lol wat.

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IntoTheDarkness wrote...

Hua. One sec here. Can I ask one question? Did you guys approve ME2's storyline that heavily focused on character relationship over plot development? Before starting anything I wanna know if our concepts of 'good storyline' is different from each other.

I think there should have been an equal amount of both but...yeah that didn't really happen.

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IntoTheDarkness wrote...


ME3 will surely be a fun game to play, but it won't be regarded as one of 'epic RPGs' because ME is no longer a RPG game since ME2.


This is the only thing I'm going to pick at.
1: Why wasn't ME2 an RPG?
2: Define what makes an RPG an RPG.

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A true space opera focuses on character interaction with a sci-fi backdrop. Character development takes precedent.

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TROLOLOLOLO

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-1/10

If you hate the Game why did you created this thread?

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LOL This thread is going down in Flames and fast.

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IntoTheDarkness wrote...

ME3 = Gay Shepard's foolish agony of his sexual identity. COD space version.


Not if your Shepard isn't gay. Also it's closer to GoW than CoD.

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

Disclaimer: I'm not against homosexuals at all.


Of course you're not. Why, I bet some of your best friends are gay! This is a non-issue but you're making it one. Everyone feel free to draw what conclusions you like from that.

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The Alliance is a hostile force that decided to open a full-scale war agaisnt the very first alien they encountered(and was attacked by.)


That doesn't make any sense. Of course they went to war with the turians, they were attacked by them without explanation or warning. The only other option would be to stand still and let them shoot you. And being jingoistic isn't the same thing as being generally socially conservative.

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Likewise, homosexual Shepard will only restrict the variety of dialogues Shepard can use.


No more than heterosexual Shepard would.

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

But look at what Bioware is doing. Shepard cares so much about reapers that he has to feel agony in his sexual identity,


Actually the game's about Shepard's search for the one perfect turnip - the only weapon that can defeat the reapers.

See? I can make **** up too.

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

Hua. One sec here. Can I ask one question? Did you guys approve ME2's storyline that heavily focused on character relationship over plot development? Before starting anything I wanna know if our concepts of 'good storyline' is different from each other.


Ok, nevermind. You are trolling.

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You know i stopped reading when you started with the sexual thing.... And yes i approve to ME2`s storyline.

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I'm fairly sure you've done this thread just for the attention or for a hot topic, so I'm not even going to bother with most of it. However, I will call you up on this:

IntoTheDarkness wrote...
All recent ME2 DLCs had total disastrous stories.

The three most recent story-based DLCs for ME2 were, in order, Overlord, Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival.

While most people didn't like Arrival's story, the forum is in general agreement that Lair of the Shadow Broker was amazing. I'm not sure what the general vibe towards Overlord is, but I personally really liked it.

So I have literally no idea where you pulled the 'disastrous' from.

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IntoTheDarkness wrote...






edit: well, taking out things those were not my main points. I don't care if Sheaprd is gay, lesbian, or anything. I care that the game focuses on trivial things in its stroy telling. I hate to see anohter ME2 style melodrama of love, friendship, and character recruitments.


ME2 was heavily focused on character recruitments and resolving squadmate's issues, true. But there isn't that much love or friendship, unless you want to. Outside LOTSB (which was the best ME2's dlc), you could choose to be a complete d**k to most of the squadmates.

Modifié par hhh89, 02 décembre 2011 - 11:49 .


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Oh look, another generic rant about what other people have ranted about a felt million times already.

Talking about redundancy here ...

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These are unexpected responses. I honestly thought ME3's revealed storyline is too flat, unrealistic and artificial, and reapers are not being very smart. I sincerely hoped ME3 to be much more desperate and grim, the elimination of entire races hanging on the tip with all your missions. and much more psychological warfares involved than a strait-up fighting. I guess at this level of fandom in the forum I'm just trolling.

Modifié par IntoTheDarkness, 02 décembre 2011 - 11:56 .