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[CARL_DF90]

Game isn't even out yet & we still get stupid threads like this. Jeez. *rolls eyes*

[Candidate 88766]

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

These are unexpected responses. I honestly thought ME3's revealed storyline is too flat, unrealistic and artificial, and reapers are not being very smart. I sincerely hoped ME3 to be much more desperate and grim, the elimination of entire races hanging on the tip with all your missions. I guess at this level of fandom in the forum I'm just trolling.

Its not the forum's fandom level, its your homophobic posts and 'controversial' views that suggest you're trolling.

[CptBomBom00]

CARL_DF90 wrote...

Game isn't even out yet & we still get stupid threads like this. Jeez. *rolls eyes*

Well, my friend some people like to expres them self's here on BSNB).

[CptBomBom00]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

These are unexpected responses. I honestly thought ME3's revealed storyline is too flat, unrealistic and artificial, and reapers are not being very smart. I sincerely hoped ME3 to be much more desperate and grim, the elimination of entire races hanging on the tip with all your missions. I guess at this level of fandom in the forum I'm just trolling.

Its not the forum's fandom level, its your homophobic posts and 'controversial' views that suggest you're trolling.

"Ah yes pointless threads, were some buthurt people like to express their deep feelings about the games"
We Have dismissed this claim.

[TomY90]

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

Hua. One sec here. Can I ask one question? Did you guys approve ME2's storyline that heavily focused on character relationship over plot development? Before starting anything I wanna know if our concepts of 'good storyline' is different from each other.

I approved the entire story of ME2 pretty much, I do agree that yes character development did dominate over plot development.

But the issue you are forgetting is that we knew alot already from ME1 and we couldnt learn much more about the Reapers without them physically being there saying 'Hi We are here now' which would make it hard to create Mass Effect 3 with that one.

i would say ME2/ME3 is simliar to Harry Potter: The Deathly Hallows (i know not the best example ever but hear me out) and if you havent seen I will be as generic as possible

because part 1 of the films is not actually that exciting but it builds up the struggle, show what they fighting for, emphasising there friendships or LI and what they have lost (no real plot development just character development in part 1)

And part 2 is where everything happens and makes everything feel more real considering you have seen everything up to that point. pretty much its the final confrontation and makes it that barely any character development is needed (but adds twists to it) just story development of the final battle. Which part 1 managed to make Part 2 even better thanks to doing the more boring work before

Which they are similar because ME2 is making the gamer and Shepard have friends, loved one(s) and something to fight for (giving more of a motive for you and shepard to try to stop the enemy from suceeding)

Whereas ME3 will be more shepard fighting for it enabling not as much character development needed just concentrate on the struggles shepard and his squad will face against such a threat. (thus ME2 has the more boring parts for some people and un interupted grand finale)

(sorry took me a while to write it up)

Modifié par TomY90, 02 décembre 2011 - 11:59 .

[IntoTheDarkness]

I am not freaking homophobic. I have clear reasons to hate homosexual Shepard. I didn't mind homosexuals in DA2.

1. inconsistency. homosexuality never mentioned in 1,2 series.

2. character identity. too much freedom in character personality forces attenuation of the character.

3. irrelevancy. It's not important if Shepard is gay or lesbian or whatever when the entire human race is upon the impending annihilation.

So stop calling me homophobic at least.

[CptBomBom00]

OK, so you afraid that Vega's going to make move on you'r Shepard then?

[Spec-Ops]

IntoTheDarkness wrote...


2. character identity. too much freedom in character personality forces attenuation of the character.

Is there a problem having too much freedom? I personally prefer more freedom, why limit us?

[CptBomBom00]

jreezy wrote...

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

I am not freaking homophobic. I have clear reasons to hate homosexual Shepard. I didn't mind homosexuals in DA2.

1. inconsistency. homosexuality never mentioned in 1,2 series.

2. character identity. too much freedom in character personality forces attenuation of the character.

3. irrelevancy. It's not important if Shepard is gay or lesbian or whatever when the entire human race is upon the impending annihilation.

So stop calling me homophobic at least.

What inconsistencies?

inconsistencies:blink: in Mass Effect, LOL:D

[TomY90]

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

I am not freaking homophobic. I have clear reasons to hate homosexual Shepard. I didn't mind homosexuals in DA2.

1. inconsistency. homosexuality never mentioned in 1,2 series.

2. character identity. too much freedom in character personality forces attenuation of the character.

3. irrelevancy. It's not important if Shepard is gay or lesbian or whatever when the entire human race is upon the impending annihilation.

So stop calling me homophobic at least.

I agree with you on point 1, not so much on point 2 and no way on point 3

I do think if the option was available in ME1 and ME2 it would be more acceptable but it was not so I do not approve, because like you said it does not make sense that all the sudden Shepard was either straight or not interested at all in romancing comes out of the closet. (the only exception I would say is if you romanced with Liara in ME1 if you were femshep because of obvious reasons)

Modifié par TomY90, 02 décembre 2011 - 12:04 .

[GayFemshep]

1. inconsistency. homosexuality never mentioned in 1,2 series

...What are you talking about? There are quite a few gay characters in the ME games.

[CptBomBom00]

Spec-Ops wrote...

IntoTheDarkness wrote...


2. character identity. too much freedom in character personality forces attenuation of the character.

Is there a problem having too much freedom? I personally prefer more freedom, why limit us?

I think he limited him self to point were, trolling in omly option ot express his feelings.

[CptBomBom00]

GayFemshep wrote...

1. inconsistency. homosexuality never mentioned in 1,2 series

...What are you talking about? There are quite a few gay characters in the ME games.

I agree.:happy:

[IntoTheDarkness]

TomY90 wrote...


I approved the entire story of ME2 pretty much, I do agree that yes character development did dominate over plot development.

But the issue you are forgetting is that we knew alot already from ME1 and we couldnt learn much more about the Reapers without them physically being there saying 'Hi We are here now' which would make it hard to create Mass Effect 3 with that one.

i would say ME2/ME3 is simliar to Harry Potter: The Deathly Hallows (i know not the best example ever but hear me out) and if you havent seen I will be as generic as possible

because part 1 of the films is not actually that exciting but it builds up the struggle, show what they fighting for, emphasising there friendships or LI and what they have lost (no real plot development just character development in part 1)

And part 2 is where everything happens and makes everything feel more real considering you have seen everything up to that point. pretty much its the final confrontation and makes it that barely any character development is needed (but adds twists to it) just story development of the final battle. Which part 1 managed to make Part 2 even better thanks to doing the more boring work before

Which they are similar because ME2 is making the gamer and Shepard have friends, loved one(s) and something to fight for (giving more of a motive for you and shepard to try to stop the enemy from suceeding)

Whereas ME3 will be more shepard fighting for it enabling not as much character development needed just concentrate on the struggles shepard and his squad will face against such a threat. (thus ME2 has the more boring parts for some people and un interupted grand finale)

(sorry took me a while to write it up)

I agree with your points about ME2 characteristic. However, I am concerned that ME2 style of freindship forming stage is going to extend to ME3 as infamous script writers from DA2 are working on ME3 as well.

Frankly, I think it's silly that Shepard should spend time asking for helps when reapers have already invaded. and I think it's unsmart of reapers to leave the earth alive, which increases the small chance of their defeat and buys more timesfor Shepard to gether forces.

I thought, through this linear storyline that has been revealed so far, I'm seeing ME2 style friendship sitcoms over space-level crisis. The earth survived in invation. Shepard is not being chased down by reapers immidiately. Why would we expect to have other race's existence at stake when things are so loose?

[GayFemshep]

Thanks 

Modifié par GayFemshep, 02 décembre 2011 - 12:08 .

[suprhomre]

How can you hate a game that isn't release yet? Nor, have I red anything about Shepard being Gay. Secondly, you claim homosexuality to spoiler the game concept and that ME3 isn't RPG. Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't the choice if sexuality very much a RPG element?

[CptBomBom00]

God, how on Earth you can hate the game, like it's been said few times now isn't out yet, also Shepard being gay is only up to us, BW gave us the choice to either, be gay, be straight or be lonely.

[Exia001]

Of course ME2 was character driven, the 8 people in ME were no where near skilled enough in terms in knowledge and the like to stop the reapers, plus we need to recruit the various galaxy races it would therefore make sense to have a varied team so they wont turn you away at the door, plus having a larger team increases areas of expertise (Mordin is probably going to be vital, just a guess)

[CptBomBom00]

Ok I have enough of this, From now on, I going to play Skyrim, and wait till this thread get's locked down, Goodbye.

[Gespenst]

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

1. inconsistency. homosexuality never mentioned in 1,2 series.

I'll let you in on a little secret, the FemShep that I plan on importing into ME3 first is already gay and a... I'm not sure what the word would be xenophile? (Now asari aren't strictly speaking women per se but they have boobs so that's good enough for her (that's a little flip but I'm not going into detailed characterisation of my Shepards or we'd be here all day)

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

2. character identity. too much freedom in character personality forces attenuation of the character.

I've got to admit that's not one I often see pulled here. +1 for originality. That still puts you at -2 however.

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

3. irrelevancy. It's not important if Shepard is gay or lesbian or whatever when the entire human race is upon the impending annihilation.

Well then we should remove all the other LIs too! In fact there wasn't really time for love in ME1 either. Quick Bioware! Patch that ****!

You seem to think that GayShep is going to fill the game with a lot of gay angst for some reason. Yeah, it can be hard growing up gay (it's usually hard, I should say) some people have it worse than others... but most people have things figured out by the age of 32.

CptBomBom00 wrote...

OK, so you afraid that Vega's going to make move on you'r Shepard then?

"I've got no problem with gays as long as they don't hit on me."

[Reptillius]

Candidate 88766 wrote...

IntoTheDarkness wrote...

These are unexpected responses. I honestly thought ME3's revealed storyline is too flat, unrealistic and artificial, and reapers are not being very smart. I sincerely hoped ME3 to be much more desperate and grim, the elimination of entire races hanging on the tip with all your missions. I guess at this level of fandom in the forum I'm just trolling.

Its not the forum's fandom level, its your homophobic posts and 'controversial' views that suggest you're trolling.

yes... because a partial reveal based on a story arc written in a demo for an old build which is very unlikely to have most of the options actually programmed into it is somehow going to reveal just everything.  That all of course ignoring the fact that at least half of the OP is not about the story in any way but closer to the jab about controversy in some respects that prompted said trolling comment.

Now it's amazing other than that some of the conclusions people draw from some things like the so called leaked storyline necessarily being any indicator of whethere a story is great or not.  Which as a matter of course even some of the greatest stories ever can become flat and artificial at their best when broken down not only into bullet points but then translated into a different language.

[jackyboy666]

Modifié par jackyboy666, 02 décembre 2011 - 12:27 .

[GayFemshep]

...I think your VASTLY overestimating how much the sexuality of Shep is going to have on the main story plot. O_O