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[bushes289]

I wouldn't want to be Shepard, way to much pressure and I'm a bit of a misanthropist so the whole savior of humanity/the galaxy thing is not for me. I would love to live in the ME universe though, preferably in a time of peace, with a job that has something to do with studying and interacting with alien cultures.

[CrutchCricket]

Dean_the_Young wrote...
Will you remain unable to have nuanced and intellectually sophisticated dialogue?

Will your relationships and emotions be forced upon you, rendering you incapable of reconciling with personal-antagonists and trapped with fawning admirers no matter what you do?

Will common sense and cause and effect be rendered moot for you, with nearly every choice leading to effectively the same results?

Will the rules of the universe bend to you, so that nice things are nearly always the best choices?

Will you feel pain/exhaustion/discomfort/stress?

Will you still be controlled by thousands of sweaty-palmed individuals, each of whom will treat you as property and insist that they are you?

Will you actively wish for mass-genocide to become reality in order to provide you a modicrum of entertainment?

I don't think the question was "Would you like to be in the game?" so this doesn't really apply.

Anyway since I haven't gotten an answer I'll assume the question implies getting all Shepard's experience and fortitude- meaning you can deal with his burdens. I'll also assume making the switch erases my presence in this world. I become Shepard and the person I am in RL never existed and thus I am not missed. I still retain memories of this life however and the insertion point will be the distinguishing mission in his background (Torfan in my case). Would I do it?

Yes. Undoubtedly. It's the ultimate escapism. But besides wanting to see the galaxy, "interact" with aliens and all the other personal perks already mentioned there is another matter to consider: reality just plain sucks. And I don't mean "the economy's bad" or "my life is boring". But there are fundamental things in fiction that are exciting but would never happen in real life. Things that we suspend our disbelief on, sometimes subconsciously.

An example: Space travel. We're all interested in it to differering degrees. We all want a badass ship that we can cruise the galaxy around in, exploring different worlds or just parking it next to a nebula and soaking in the sights. But if you look at what space travel really entails, you'll find it's not at all what you expected. And it's not simpy a matter of not having the technology yet. I don't feel like looking it up now but go to Cracked and look up an article called 6 Reasons why Space Travel Will Always Suck. That's the reality of it and no tech we can imagine right now will change that. But in the ME universe (or any other space fiction) you can have the space travel you've always dreamed of.

It's not just limited to big things like that. How about things like how characters act? Ever feel love doesn't exist or true friendship died a long time ago? Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. But in fiction, you're guaranteed to find it. Or the good guys always winning? The good guys don't always win in real life. Often there are no good guys to begin with, just various levels of douchebags. Watch Last Action Hero, it deconstructs all of this.

So yeah I'd do it. I would become Shepard (or a character in so many other fictions). And I and this world would not miss each other.

Modifié par CrutchCricket, 02 décembre 2011 - 08:11 .

[Drone223]

No, there is too much stress to deal with, saving the galaxy from genocide and events such as Torfan and Akuze will just be too much for me, I fine siting my exams, and looking for a job and lving at home instead of being shoot at on a regular basis, the life that I have is good anyway  

Modifié par Drone223, 02 décembre 2011 - 08:23 .

[wright1978]

CrutchCricket wrote...

[An example: Space travel. We're all interested in it to differering degrees. We all want a badass ship that we can cruise the galaxy around in, exploring different worlds or just parking it next to a nebula and soaking in the sights. But if you look at what space travel really entails, you'll find it's not at all what you expected. And it's not simpy a matter of not having the technology yet. I don't feel like looking it up now but go to Cracked and look up an article called 6 Reasons why Space Travel Will Always Suck. That's the reality of it and no tech we can imagine right now will change that. But in the ME universe (or any other space fiction) you can have the space travel you've always dreamed of.

Disagree fundamentally with you about space travel. Yes those reasons clearly show why we shouldn't be wasting our time trying to go to the moon or mars etc based on our current level of technology. That in no way makes it impossible to aim to develop better form of space travel at some point in the future. Carry on making the strides forward who knows where we will be in a few hundred years.

[CrutchCricket]

wright1978 wrote...
Disagree fundamentally with you about space travel. Yes those reasons clearly show why we shouldn't be wasting our time trying to go to the moon or mars etc based on our current level of technology. That in no way makes it impossible to aim to develop better form of space travel at some point in the future. Carry on making the strides forward who knows where we will be in a few hundred years.

Have you read the article? There are specific conditions that will not be met by real space travel almost regardless of level of tech because the fictional conception of it has artistic license written all over it, and space just doesn't work that way. I also never said never. I believe the exact phrasing I used was "no technology we can currently imagine". We can't predict what techonology will be developed in the future. But it is very likely that we, the people living today will never see it.

[King Minos]

I prefer to be like Adam Jenson from Deus Ex. Change the world and saved it yet nobody knows who you are or even know that you pretty much stopped Humanity going extinct. I'd hate to be famous, say some stupid or do something stupid and the whole world knows.

[wright1978]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Have you read the article? There are specific conditions that will not be met by real space travel almost regardless of level of tech because the fictional conception of it has artistic license written all over it, and space just doesn't work that way. I also never said never. I believe the exact phrasing I used was "no technology we can currently imagine". We can't predict what techonology will be developed in the future. But it is very likely that we, the people living today will never see it.

I read the article and it is largely based on the assumptions that our current understanding of science is perfect.
Of course sci-fi will take some artistic liberties but that doesn't mean space travel will never conquer some of the major hurdles. I agree wholeheartedly that we'll never get to see proper space travel but that's like going back hundred of years and trying to explain how a jet plane works to someone who believes it is impossible.

[CrutchCricket]

wright1978 wrote...
I read the article and it is largely based on the assumptions that our current understanding of science is perfect.
Of course sci-fi will take some artistic liberties but that doesn't mean space travel will never conquer some of the major hurdles. I agree wholeheartedly that we'll never get to see proper space travel but that's like going back hundred of years and trying to explain how a jet plane works to someone who believes it is impossible.

I wouldn't say it assumes our science is perfect. It just doesn't take into account future advancements because it can't -we don't know what advancements will bring.

[wright1978]

CrutchCricket wrote...

I wouldn't say it assumes our science is perfect. It just doesn't take into account future advancements because it can't -we don't know what advancements will bring.

Really the whole bit on Einstein isn't. Despite the fact even in 2011 some Italians have found evidence he may not have been quite right.

[AdmiralCheez]

Hell no. Too stressful.

Plus my ****** are bigger.

[Ryzaki]

Uh...yes?

Badass cyborg that is a BDH. Yeah sure.

[CrutchCricket]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Hell no. Too stressful.

Plus my ****** are bigger.

*facepalm*

Have you seen what they can do with that?

[Eclipse_9990]

CptData wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

I agree with this whole heartedly. I don't disagree with the potential resourcefulness, and adaptability of humanity, but you're definetly right about how most humans either don't give a crap about the future, are overly pre-occupied with the past, and can only see whats infront of them. Until they get over this stuff, I don't see humanity accomplishing anything overly significant.

Lastly I'm surprised at your observation of modern humanity, and the drell. It's pretty interesting. 

Actually, I wonder why no one saw this earlier. I mean, the Drell history shows the current future of mankind. Resources are already scarce or used up, our numbers are still growing. Billions are starving, but our numbers are growing. In some places on Earth people are already fighting over water and food. And our numbers are still growing, we'll hit 8 billions in less than fifteen years. Actually, when I was born (1982) we had approx 4.6 Billion people living on this planet. 1992 we had 5.5 Billions. 2002 we hit 6.3 Billions and today we have 7 Billions. 2022 there will be 7.8 Billion people alive.

The worst thing about that isn't the amount of people alone. All of them want to live like we guys in the first world. All want a car, a big house, plenty of food and water. And the world isn't able to give that many resources. We -are- already facing the destiny of the Drell in some areas and it looks as if things won't change any time soon.

That's why.

I'm sorry for that political stuff ... won't bother you anymore

No need to apologize; I agree completely, and this is certainly some food for thought. Thanks for bringing this up. 

[Ghost Warrior]

Hell no. Too much stress and danger,not to mention responsibility. But the priiiize...

[Kappa Neko]

CptData wrote...
guess everyone dreams of becoming a hero of some kind.

No, I don't!
Everybody wants their life to matter, agreed. But you don't need to be a Shepard type of hero to achieve that.
I don't want flashy heroism. I dream of working for a wildlife protection organization. Saving animals. Trying to convince people to start caring about this planet. That sort of thing. Unknown to the public but happy to do something useful. Spending my life among like-minded tree hugging people.
To me that's infinitely better than being a war hero.
I don't like soldiers. Saving the galaxy in a video game is fine. But real soldiers are nothing like that. They kill for their country's leaders lust for power. Wrap it up in patriotic words as much as you like, the ugly truth remains.

But even if it were possible to kill for the sake of all life in the galaxy, I still wouldn't want to be Shepard. My Shep is a sole survivor. I would never trade having my loving family and friends for the tough life of an elite soldier.
I'm not a happy person but I like who I am for the most part. I like being allowed to express my emotions. I like physical security. I like having a home.

I only envy people who are happy because they are doing what they want to do. Shepard is not happy.

[Dominus]

Would I want to endanger my life, die, be revived by a rogue organization, be viewed as a traitor by old friends, and watch half the people I meet either be killed, become indoctrinated, or both?

It's a video game. There is no true fear of death, or any other conflict. So no, I wouldn't want to live that. I'm perfectly content spending my days living out other peoples' lives vicariously. If I really wanted to be shepard, I suppose I'd join the military in one form or another.

[CrimsonNephilim]

Pass, I'll stick with the life I have now.

I can't imagine myself or anyone being in Shepard's place with having to make critical decisions that could and most likely result in the death's of thousands of people. On top of that, having to find a solution to defeating a massive fleet of sentient machines hellbent on destroying all organic life. Sovereign alone was a pain to take down. If Shepard was real, s/he probably would have snapped by now.

[AdmiralCheez]

CrutchCricket wrote...

*facepalm*

Have you seen what they can do with that?

What, Bioware or the community?

Because Big ****** Shepard isn't going to bug me apart from the Ashley/Miranda/stop sexing everything up rant that I'll inevitably spout, and the people here no longer intimidate me.

Seriously, whenever someone gets the wrong idea, I just post incredibly unflattering pictures of myself making ugly faces.

[CrutchCricket]

AdmiralCheez: Plus my ****** are bigger.
Me: Have you seen what they [technology in ME] can do with that?

In short: Small ****** are less of a problem in ME than they are in RL.

[Dean_the_Young]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Seriously, whenever someone gets the wrong idea, I just post incredibly unflattering pictures of myself making ugly faces.

Me gusta.

[CptData]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Hell no. Too stressful.

Plus my ****** are bigger.

Thank you for the mental image.

*shows Miranda-like Cheez*

Dean_the_Young wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Seriously, whenever someone gets the wrong idea, I just post incredibly unflattering pictures of myself making ugly faces.

Me gusta.

Me gusta 2

Modifié par CptData, 02 décembre 2011 - 11:10 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Me gusta.

For you, baby:



@CrutchCricket: Small ****** are not a disadvantage.  In fact, I'd say they're just as awesome as big ******.  They're always cute (while big ****** can sometimes be gross and smelly), and they don't get in the way.