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Bioware doesn't want our decisions in game to have CONSEQUENCES


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The PLC wrote...

Maybe Bioware should just shut down this forum for the next few weeks, until some actual info is out. People are clearly starting to go mental.


Amen.

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Malik84 wrote...

The PLC wrote...

Maybe Bioware should just shut down this forum for the next few weeks, until some actual info is out. People are clearly starting to go mental.


Amen.


Too true.

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Exia001 wrote...

Defo not what was said idiot, it IS going to happen (the Consequences) but they were merely stating how much of a challenge it is/has beeen.

Now GTFO

Like it already happened in ME2?

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Starting a thread about this is pathetic.

Modifié par D3MON-SOVER3IGN, 03 décembre 2011 - 04:12 .


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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

Defo not what was said idiot, it IS going to happen (the Consequences) but they were merely stating how much of a challenge it is/has beeen.

Now GTFO

Like it already happened in ME2?


I'm not going to get into this again as it has been done and dusted like a ****, every argument on BSN comes down to the fact that if you don't want the game, you can stroke your e penis but you wont buy the game and thats fine, or you will, and thats fine too. Second option just makes you look silly.

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You can have stand alone games like FONV with lots of consequences or you can have a trilogy with limited consequences. Everyone who doesn't know why that has to be so should go back to BSN forumite school.

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Exia001 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

Defo not what was said idiot, it IS going to happen (the Consequences) but they were merely stating how much of a challenge it is/has beeen.

Now GTFO

Like it already happened in ME2?


I'm not going to get into this again as it has been done and dusted like a ****, every argument on BSN comes down to the fact that if you don't want the game, you can stroke your e penis but you wont buy the game and thats fine, or you will, and thats fine too. Second option just makes you look silly.


If there was a like button I would be hitting that like button on that reply Exia001.

it does make me laugh how people expect all there consequences to be seen in ME2 when there was not actually that many important decisions in ME1 and why show them now when you can show them in ME3 where it is more important

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AlexXIV wrote...

You can have stand alone games like FONV with lots of consequences or you can have a trilogy with limited consequences. Everyone who doesn't know why that has to be so should go back to BSN forumite school.


I never really cared for any of the factions in New Vegas, anyway. They all had some utterly stupid principal that will forever hold them back.

No, I'd rather have it Mass Effect's way.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

You can have stand alone games like FONV with lots of consequences or you can have a trilogy with limited consequences. Everyone who doesn't know why that has to be so should go back to BSN forumite school.


I never really cared for any of the factions in New Vegas, anyway. They all had some utterly stupid principal that will forever hold them back.

That's why you go with Yes-Man. You get to form your own faction.

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TomY90 wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

Defo not what was said idiot, it IS going to happen (the Consequences) but they were merely stating how much of a challenge it is/has beeen.

Now GTFO

Like it already happened in ME2?


I'm not going to get into this again as it has been done and dusted like a ****, every argument on BSN comes down to the fact that if you don't want the game, you can stroke your e penis but you wont buy the game and thats fine, or you will, and thats fine too. Second option just makes you look silly.


If there was a like button I would be hitting that like button on that reply Exia001.

it does make me laugh how people expect all there consequences to be seen in ME2 when there was not actually that many important decisions in ME1 and why show them now when you can show them in ME3 where it is more important


Yup. 

Besides, what would the human Council do? Make fun out of you like the old Council did?

And what good can the rachni do during ME2? Better to save them for later.

Let's not forget the potential alliances we're building up in ME2 either, like with the quarians and the geth or the salarians with the krogans, and several more.

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There's been a lot of these rant threads lately. STOP IT!

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Sebbe1337o wrote...

There's been a lot of these rant threads lately. STOP IT!


if you actually read what people are talking about we have been taking the mick out of the guy who posted this topic because he didnt read the article he gave as evidence which actually said it made it challenging not that they havent bothered to do it.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

TomY90 wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

Defo not what was said idiot, it IS going to happen (the Consequences) but they were merely stating how much of a challenge it is/has beeen.

Now GTFO

Like it already happened in ME2?


I'm not going to get into this again as it has been done and dusted like a ****, every argument on BSN comes down to the fact that if you don't want the game, you can stroke your e penis but you wont buy the game and thats fine, or you will, and thats fine too. Second option just makes you look silly.


If there was a like button I would be hitting that like button on that reply Exia001.

it does make me laugh how people expect all there consequences to be seen in ME2 when there was not actually that many important decisions in ME1 and why show them now when you can show them in ME3 where it is more important


Yup. 

Besides, what would the human Council do? Make fun out of you like the old Council did?

And what good can the rachni do during ME2? Better to save them for later.

Let's not forget the potential alliances we're building up in ME2 either, like with the quarians and the geth or the salarians with the krogans, and several more.

And now you're actually justifying choices not having actual consequences...

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Yes because it is justifiable as long as it all comes together in ME3. as said before just because something isnt dealt with right this second now dont mean it wont be sorted at all.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

And now you're actually justifying choices not having actual consequences...


It's your own side's fault for doing that. You complained to no end about ME2 being unfair to renengades for giving paragons cameos and things like that and wanting their decisions to backfire.

Unfortunately, it seems BW listened and tried to make it fair by not giving one side too many consequences or withhold missions for decisions either. But now that they've balanced it, now the decisions don't have enough consequences!

(This by the way is what's called a catch-22).

Modifié par Hah Yes Reapers, 03 décembre 2011 - 05:11 .


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Kaiser Shepard wrote...
And now you're actually justifying choices not having actual consequences...


Are you never getting tired of being so predictable?

Every single time I say something in a thread that you've posted in, you're going "Whaaa, it doesn't have any consequences"

To answer your statement:

Well, yeah. I am.

Because I'm not stupid enough to expect several armies or factions to start helping Shepard long before the war and when the choices actually have little to no effect. When we're just fighting the Collectors and the Reapers are relatively safe from harm back in dark space.

It COULD mean that there aren't any consequences, OR it could mean that they're saving those outcomes for a time when they matter the most.

And BW has said several times that they're trying to do just that. Save the best for last.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 03 décembre 2011 - 05:16 .


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TomY90 wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Exia001 wrote...

Defo not what was said idiot, it IS going to happen (the Consequences) but they were merely stating how much of a challenge it is/has beeen.

Now GTFO

Like it already happened in ME2?


I'm not going to get into this again as it has been done and dusted like a ****, every argument on BSN comes down to the fact that if you don't want the game, you can stroke your e penis but you wont buy the game and thats fine, or you will, and thats fine too. Second option just makes you look silly.


If there was a like button I would be hitting that like button on that reply Exia001.

it does make me laugh how people expect all there consequences to be seen in ME2 when there was not actually that many important decisions in ME1 and why show them now when you can show them in ME3 where it is more important


i think the fact that ME2 doesnt show a single repercusion from its previous game is a very bad thing. i dont know how you can play ME2 and still have alot of hope for ME3s attempt at bringing together the first two games. dont be suprised if the new fans bioware is targeting have MORE fun then you with your hundreds of hours of import games.

it seems like the thought of ME2 being a "middle point" in a series is the perfect excuse to say "thats why ME2 wasnt very good bro, it was the second game!" i just dont see that, or want to accept thats the reason why ME2 failed to follow in ME1 footsteps.

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AlexXIV wrote...

You can have stand alone games like FONV with lots of consequences or you can have a trilogy with limited consequences. Everyone who doesn't know why that has to be so should go back to BSN forumite school.


This.

This is why I have been advocating for Bioware to ditch this import save nonsense and just make games with more choices built in.

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Out of interest: What consequences did you want to see?

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I don't like Bioware for joining up with EA (EA are S**t at making games like ME), but I don't make topics about it OP. So if you want to rant, go punch a punching bag or something.

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The classic example is 'Hey, let's make the ending of Mass Effect 2 a suicide mission where all your henchmen can possibly die, and Shepard can even die!' Oh right... and then we're gonna do another game after that. What the hell are we gonna do with all those guys?"


How was this not the first thing they considered when having an ending to the middle chapter where anyone could die?

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Exia001 wrote...

Out of interest: What consequences did you want to see?

He wants every choice to matter and to drasticly change the game - basicly he wants 100 different games in one. 

Modifié par omskman, 03 décembre 2011 - 05:40 .