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[BlueMagitek]

slimgrin wrote...

someone else wrote...

...seems bi-sexuality is the black hole rail of the romance forums - like cerberus is for the general section - exerting inexorable gravitational force on all thought...I wonder if the human reaper is gay?

It is. One side wants options, which I suppose I can understand. The other side wants consistent charcterization.

So on topic. should Femshep have as many romance options? Maybe not. Maybe a lack of romance options could be offset by some other advantage to palying femshep, like exclusive dialog option, etc. Afterall, no one plays head games better than women. 

( I kid )

Lies, no one plays head games like Shepard Gaston.  And soon his release from prison we will be celebrating. 
Oh what a guy, that Gaston.

Ryzaki wrote...

Human Reaper has a single target sexuality. It's love is reserved only for shep.

Nah, Human Reaper wants to Reap Asari, Turians, Krogan, Humans, Salarians, Vorcha; just like Shep!

[Ryzaki]

Nyoka wrote...

Human Reaper: I want you inside me, Shepard.
Shepard: *awkward silence*
HR: I want the whole of humanity inside me. At the same time.
S: *looks frenetically for broken heart dialog icon*

Heh. That's the worse part.

HR totally Ninjamances Shep. XD

[Laser Beam]

someone else wrote...

Laser Beam wrote...

someone else wrote...

BroShep, as we all know has a virtual hareem of choices -  three humans as well as two exotics - that BW thinks he may need homosexual options as well - Jeez, why not throw in a sheep or two while your covering all the bases.
  

He says this, yet you reward him with 9 thread pages. We have a brillant fanbase here.

you got a problem with sheep?  ...step outside.

I'm all for beastiality. But sheep are satanists.

[someone else]

Laser Beam wrote...

I'm all for beastiality. But sheep are satanists.

gross, ignorant stereotype, hardly worthy of riposte.  Ewe obviously know nothing.

Modifié par someone else, 03 décembre 2011 - 10:24 .

[shepskisaac]

BlueMagitek wrote...

I must have missed the choice in ME1 where I could not only be a serial killer, but also beat women.  Off the top of my head, you can punch the reporter (who wants you to do it) and you can kill that woman if you've got a Mindoir background.  But please, show me where this option is.

Yes, you can punch the reporter and you can do it for no good reason. Ash doesn't mind at all, neither Liara. You can be hardcore Renegade, Ash & Liara don't mind. Do you really wanna argue LIs take Shep's actions into consideration?

[Laser Beam]

someone else wrote...

Laser Beam wrote...

I'm all for beastiality. But sheep are satanists.

gross, ignorant stereotype, hardly worthy of riposte.  Ewe obviously know nothing.

Baaa humbag. You devil whorshipers and your sheep thrills will burn. Fleece Navidad. Thanks for mutton!

[JamieCOTC]

someone else wrote...

Bisexuality doesn't "hurt" the character - its just out of character for most people - and so shouldn't be presented as the norm - unless its become so by he 22nd Century - if so BW ought to inform us so.

I look at it in terms of the infinite parallel universe theory.  Say Tali falls for femshep in ME3.  I doubt it will happen, but just for the sake of argument, let’s go there.  If you play broShep, guess what, Tali isn’t interested in females.  If you play femshep, then she is, but it doesn’t matter because that happens in its own universe, y’know, the one where Shepard is female.  In other words the characters are not straight, gay or bi unless you want them to be.
 
Also, I’ve never understood how people can be so bothered by what happens in another person’s game.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 03 décembre 2011 - 10:29 .

[mauro2222]

JamieCOTC wrote...

someone else wrote...

Bisexuality doesn't "hurt" the character - its just out of character for most people - and so shouldn't be presented as the norm - unless its become so by he 22nd Century - if so BW ought to inform us so.

I look at it in terms of the infinite parallel universe theory.  Say Tali falls for femshep in ME3.  I doubt it will happen, but just for the sake of argument, let’s go there.  If you play broShep, guess what, Tali isn’t interested in females.  If you play femshep, then she is, but it doesn’t matter because that happens in its own universe, y’know, the one where Shepard is female.  In other words the characters are not straight, gay or bi unless you want them to be.
 
Also, I’ve never understood how people can be so bothered by what happens in another person’s game.

Well said.

[someone else]

IsaacShep wrote...
 Do you really wanna argue LIs take Shep's actions into consideration?

you can't even argue they care about their own choices - you can commit genocide over Liara's protests - no problem - she still ready to embrace eternity with you.   Wipe out the colonists?  Ash is still your gal.

[shepskisaac]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I'm confused here: how is being a renegade contrary to Ash's beliefs? She supports wiping out the rachni, killing the Council, and is humancentric; all renegade options.

Then reverse it for Ash. The point remains, LIs don't care what Shep does. And as 'renegade' Ash may be, she would rather go for FemShep she's not into than date a guy who punches women for no good reason.

[jlb524]

strive wrote...
I would rather have one romance for each gender and orientation fleshed out and designed with that in mind. Rather than all of those romances working around having to service each gender and orientation. It would be awesome if that extended to morality, beliefs, appearance, etc. Rome wasn't built in a day though. I think making everyone bi goes in the opposite direction of adding those type of details.

Has any BW romance ever fleshed out gender and orientation?  Even straight ones?

Let's use a more specific example...are all Male Paragon Shepards who romance Miranda the same?  Well...there romance is the same...it's 'one size fits all'...is this a problem?  Is it okay that you have the same experience as your buddy did when romancing Miranda with your own Paragon male?

strive wrote...
It was a trivial example, but one that is relevant since we're on a message board that loves to overreact and make mindless topics. I'd also consider the fact that Tali's fandom was strong enough to influence Mass Effect 3.

Well, as far as this goes...people who prefer s/s romances (like..me!) will always be biased towards saying that the s/s version of the romance is best.  Vice versa for those that prefer o/s stuff.

This will happen even when the two romance paths are pretty much identical (it does happen, actually).  

[shepskisaac]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Asari sex don't count as hetero or ******. From their OR your point of view.

But of course it does count from players POV. That's why they look like this:



And not like this:

[Harmless Citizen]

Asari sex don't count as hetero or ******. From their OR your point of view.

Why not? I can understand why it wouldn't from the perspective of an asari, but as a human?

[BlueMagitek]

Is hardcore Renegade supposed to be a serial killer woman beater now? That's a tad ridiculous.

And they do; when those actions affect them personally. The exception to this is Liara, who wants you in almost every scenario but one (recruit her last, no romance). Liara's fine with Shep's suggestion, she still likes you regardless of how you treated her in ME1 and she'll banter with you regardless of what you've done in ME2 or ME1 in LotSB.

When you fail Thane's or Tali's LM, you don't get to romance them, right? Granted, I can't confirm this firsthand, but that's what I heard. If you insult Jack, she'll blow you off. The LIs do take Shepard's actions in consideration when it comes to them.

[someone else]

Laser Beam wrote...

someone else wrote...

Laser Beam wrote...

I'm all for beastiality. But sheep are satanists.

gross, ignorant stereotype, hardly worthy of riposte.  Ewe obviously know nothing.

Baaa humbag. You devil whorshipers and your sheep thrills will burn. Fleece Navidad. Thanks for mutton!

...injure me with witticism and cruel sarcasm as you may, but remember, in the end, our hero remains forever a SHEPARD ...

[shepskisaac]

BlueMagitek wrote...

And they do; when those actions affect them personally.

But people in real life care for more than just what affects them personally. That's realism. I won't date a racist idiot just like you won't date someone you find utterly stupid or unmoral even if his/her actions haven't affected your personally yet.

[BlueMagitek]

IsaacShep wrote...

BlueMagitek wrote...

And they do; when those actions affect them personally.

But people in real life care for more than just what affects them personally. That's realism. I won't date a racist idiot just like you won't date someone you find utterly stupid or unmoral even if his/her actions haven't affected your personally yet.

Not everyone.

But the majority of Shepard's actions can be justified regardless of Paragon or Renegade.  This system isn't really Good vs. Evil (like Baldur's Gate, where your romantic interests do care about what you look like and what you do; Viconia doesn't care for Elves or Gnomes or Dwarves).  Would any companion blame Shepard for destroying the Rachni?