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Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

The best poster-boy for BSN renegades is CerberusWarrior, hands down. Best representation of their thought-processes and maturity.

The true forum's champ, however, is GMagnum tbh.


Not even close... he's more of the Bioware Fanboy variety. Just accept whatever change Bioware wants to implement b/c "it's their IP". 

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

This whole "renegades are cooler and smarter than paragons" thing is as ridiculous as the "fans of some characters are better than fans of others" nonsense. No group is superior to another. I have both renegade and paragon playthroughs, and I don't feel my IQ or awesomeness rise when I play one or the other.


Alas, some people must feel superior when they're playing something as silly as a video game.

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Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

The best poster-boy for BSN renegades is CerberusWarrior, hands down. Best representation of their thought-processes and maturity.

The true forum's champ, however, is GMagnum tbh.


He sums it up so nicely too.

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

The best poster-boy for BSN renegades is CerberusWarrior, hands down. Best representation of their thought-processes and maturity.

The true forum's champ, however, is GMagnum tbh.


Not even close... he's more of the Bioware Fanboy variety. Just accept whatever change Bioware wants to implement b/c "it's their IP". 



Did I ask you???

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[quote]Yezdigerd wrote...

[quote]Saphra Deden wrote...

[quote]Yezdigerd wrote...

How is giving the shadow broker classified alliance military data for nothing sensible?[/quote]

The Shadow Broker is a neutral party. Everyone plays his game, they have to. Earlier in your quest the Shadow Broker was a valuable ally, helping you to stop Saren and providing you with Wrex. Giving 'him' the Cerberus data to earn a favor later is a sound diplomatic move.

[quote] The SB:s help was entirely happenstance his minions was after Fist and Shepard was a mean to get to him. Wrex joins of his own volition. Handing over the information regarding a alliance black ops unit to a alien power on his own authority for vague promises of assistance in the future seems stupid at best and could technically not be anything but treason, I guess Joker didn't listen in, since Shep wasn't court martialed.[/quote]


[quote]Yezdigerd wrote...

How come murdering Thalid the Turian politician in front of the police have no consequences?[/quote]

[quote]Well, if you are a Spectre it is technically legal. If you aren't then Cerberus has your back anyway. Plus you already know Bailey is corrupt. He takes bribes, he helped you despite your not being part of law enforcement.[/quote]

Yeah a council spectre working for human supremist terror organization kills a Turian politician campaigning against human dominance, THE HUMANLED COUNCIL SENT ITS DEATHSQUAD TO SILENCE THE OPPOSITION With any realism the council would disavow him, apologize for a sentimental appointment and vow to make Shepard answer for his crimes. Especially the human alliance would have to be very clear that Shepard's actions are as despicable as unacceptable.
I never understood a spectre as someone who can kill people willy-nilly(because that is stupid), just that you answer to the council and not local law for their actions. Bailey have plenty of C-sec even Turians with him, and I would assume thallids death would recieve an extensive investigation.

And there is no reason to kill Thallid, except for throwing away cool stuff like "hostages only works if your enemies care". it's lulz and as usual renegades are plot shielded from their actions.


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Oh wow, not even attempting to be unbiased here are you? The knockout gas grenades are improvised weapons. Improvised by people who don't necessarily have any formal training creating military weapons at that. In addition the colony is overrun with strange aliens that you've never seen before (the creepers). There several sensible reasons to kill the colonists. It is hardly a "turkey shoot".
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That Shepard doesn't want to risk his people are understandable, but there is no time limit and the creepers are slow, there really are no reason not to try out the grenades and once you do you realize they are better then the guns since they kill the creepers outright. So the only reason to shoot colonists are lulz.

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Many of the paragon decisions can be "for the lulz" too. 

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Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

The best poster-boy for BSN renegades is CerberusWarrior, hands down. Best representation of their thought-processes and maturity.

The true forum's champ, however, is GMagnum tbh.


Not even close... he's more of the Bioware Fanboy variety. Just accept whatever change Bioware wants to implement b/c "it's their IP". 



Did I ask you???


Did I ask you if I could post???

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I'm pretty sure CerberusWarrior is a troll. Or his views are just wildly inconsistent.
Hardly a decent representation of all the renegades on the forum.

On topic: Yes, we're the cool kids. Paragons are just jealous.

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

The best poster-boy for BSN renegades is CerberusWarrior, hands down. Best representation of their thought-processes and maturity.

The true forum's champ, however, is GMagnum tbh.


Not even close... he's more of the Bioware Fanboy variety. Just accept whatever change Bioware wants to implement b/c "it's their IP". 



Did I ask you???


Did I ask you if I could post???



IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!!!!!!!!

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Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

The best poster-boy for BSN renegades is CerberusWarrior, hands down. Best representation of their thought-processes and maturity.

The true forum's champ, however, is GMagnum tbh.


Not even close... he's more of the Bioware Fanboy variety. Just accept whatever change Bioware wants to implement b/c "it's their IP". 



Did I ask you???


Did I ask you if I could post???



IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!!!!!!!!


now, now...

who's being the renegade now? .... have fun with your buddy CerberusWarrior. ;)

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Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

The best poster-boy for BSN renegades is CerberusWarrior, hands down. Best representation of their thought-processes and maturity.

The true forum's champ, however, is GMagnum tbh.


Not even close... he's more of the Bioware Fanboy variety. Just accept whatever change Bioware wants to implement b/c "it's their IP". 



Did I ask you???


Did I ask you if I could post???



IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!!!!!!!!

Image IPB

Modifié par darkness reborn, 04 décembre 2011 - 06:13 .


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Yezdigerd wrote...

The SB:s help was entirely happenstance his minions was after Fist and Shepard was a mean to get to him.


That's beside the point. The Shadow Broker would be a very useful ally for Shepard to have and giving him the Cerberus data is a nice way to earn his favor. He will get the data eventually anyway (after all he was the one who pointed Kahoku to those bases in the first place). Shepard is a Spectre and is fully within his rights to seek support outside the Alliance. This may be an issue of morals so far as duty and loyalty are concerned, but the reasoning for helping the Shadow Broker in ME1 is quite sound.

You wanted a sensible reason and you've been given one.




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Yeah a council spectre working for human supremist terror organization kills a Turian politician campaigning against human dominance...


So are you going to refute what I said or not? Maybe Shepard doesn't care about the potential political fallout or maybe the fallout won't be what you think it will be. Maybe Talid's death will demoralize the opposition? After all he himself was corrupt too.

I said it was a brash move but it isn't a totally undefensible one depending on how ruthless your Shepard is.


That Shepard doesn't want to risk his people are understandable, but there is no time limit and the creepers are slow, there really are no reason not to try out the grenades and once you do you realize they are better then the guns since they kill the creepers outright. So the only reason to shoot colonists are lulz.


You're wrong. Let me paint a picture for you.

You use the knockout gas on the hostiles (who are actively trying to kill you). It knocks them down. You proceed. Only the, once you are behind enemy lines, the gas wears off. Now you are surrounded by hostiles.

Remember: it is just Shepard and his two squadmates. Keep that in mind for EVERY mission in the series (most of them anyway). Shepard is often in enemty territory, outnumbered, outgunned, and without an expedient means of escape if things go bad. The grenades are an untested variable and the odds are already stacked against you.

Now to be fair ME1 only vaguely implies this scenario. When first told about the grenades Shepard can be wary of them. However over all ME1 doesn't really give us any clear reasoning for why Shepard would choose the kill the colonists. So here I have to roleplay and invent my own reason based on what little the game gives me.

None the less, I gave you a sensible reason to kill the colonists. You even agreed that Shepard wanted to protect his squad was reasonable.

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My Renegade is so much cooler, than your Renegade.

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xxSgt_Reed_24xx wrote...

now, now...

who's being the renegade now? .... have fun with your buddy CerberusWarrior. ;)



Turns out, it ain't so hard. I just have to spew out stupid nonsense.

Once I get the b*tching and moaning part down, I'm good. Image IPB Maybe then I can be in the OP's cool-kids list.

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Turns out, it ain't so hard. I just have to spew out stupid nonsense.

Once I get the b*tching and moaning part down, I'm good. Image IPB Maybe then I can be in the OP's cool-kids list.


Don't forget that you must justify every single douchy move you make as a Renegade, even thought it can't really be justified beyond simple aggression.

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Or, Shepard had no clue that killing the Thorian would even help the colonists revert back to their normal selves so killing the colonists is a safe route.

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King Minos wrote...

Or, Shepard had no clue that killing the Thorian would even help the colonists revert back to their normal selves so killing the colonists is a safe route.


Without even trying the method the doctors recommended? That's nice.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...


Turns out, it ain't so hard. I just have to spew out stupid nonsense.

Once I get the b*tching and moaning part down, I'm good. Image IPB Maybe then I can be in the OP's cool-kids list.


Don't forget that you must justify every single douchy move you make as a Renegade, even thought it can't really be justified beyond simple aggression.


inorite? Sometimes I wonder if they really actually have rationale behind all their decisions, because on here it just sounds like they've made a religion out of anti-paragonism.

Not to say renegade options are totally irrational, it just sounds like the die-hards are playing renegade for renegade's sake.

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Or, Shepard had no clue that killing the Thorian would even help the colonists revert back to their normal selves so killing the colonists is a safe route.


Without even trying the method the doctors recommended? That's nice.


SD already told you a reason for not doing that.

Who's to say it will even work? Or that if it does work, that it will keep them knocked out and out of thorian control for the rest of that mission? If it doesn't you now have "enemies everywhere" (behind you) and would be screwed. Better to not take the chance than to be sorry you did.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...


Turns out, it ain't so hard. I just have to spew out stupid nonsense.

Once I get the b*tching and moaning part down, I'm good. Image IPB Maybe then I can be in the OP's cool-kids list.


Don't forget that you must justify every single douchy move you make as a Renegade, even thought it can't really be justified beyond simple aggression.

Then please justify that PM you sent me the other day.


Someone With Mass wrote...

King Minos wrote...

Or, Shepard had no clue that killing the Thorian would even help the colonists revert back to their normal selves so killing the colonists is a safe route.


Without even trying the method the doctors recommended? That's nice.

What do said doctors really know about the ancient and probably unique alien lifeform capable of mind control?

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Paragons, Renegades the we have people like me who don't care what Bioware labels as blue and red, and make choices based on what they think is the best solution.

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inorite? Sometimes I wonder if they really actually have rationale behind all their decisions, because on here it just sounds like they've made a religion out of anti-paragonism.

Not to say renegade options are totally irrational, it just sounds like the die-hards are playing renegade for renegade's sake.


Even I am taking some Renegade options sometimes when it means fighting less enemies, but I'm not trying to make them be more than what they really are.

Mostly because there's no point. And seriously? I don't have to justify crap. It's a game.

But if it helps people feel intellectually superior, then sure. Knock yourselves out.

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What do said doctors really know about the ancient and probably unique alien lifeform capable of mind control?

The woman who suggests the gas grenades had only heard of the thorian 5 seconds prior.

EDIT: lol SWM

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I'm an ass h*le in real life and so is my shep. There you go.

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Cant we all just get along?

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...
Then please justify that PM you sent me the other day.

 

Don't have to. It's sad that you're still feeling hurt about it, though.

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

King Minos wrote...

Or, Shepard had no clue that killing the Thorian would even help the colonists revert back to their normal selves so killing the colonists is a safe route.


Without even trying the method the doctors recommended? That's nice.

What do said doctors really know about the ancient and probably unique alien lifeform capable of mind control?


Apparently enough (a doctor knowing about his/her subject? Don't be ridiculous) to make a possible stun gas mod for my grenades, which doesn't hurt to try before gunning down innocent people.