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[The Elder King]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Trinity66 wrote...
Poor thing, and Miranda covered half of my screen with her ass and I didn't ask her to do so.

Don't worry. She and *spoiler*snip *spoiler* will have such a lovely meeting in ME3.

By the way, gaining the full support of the Shadow Broker in ME3 has pretty awesome perks.

Sometimes I'm said that I don't hate any squadmate. The happiness that you (not you specifically, I mean every person who hate some squadmate) prove when a certain squadmate can die/die mightbe unimaginable.
About the SB support, I'll guess there is some mission to do for Liara in ME3, or it's all given due LOTSB?

Modifié par hhh89, 05 décembre 2011 - 09:43 .

[Someone With Mass]

ADLegend21 wrote...

she's the shadow broker she doesn't need to be fighting on the ground when she can be pulling strings to have every situation go in Shepard's favor to the best of her SB abilities.

She does in ME3.

Why? 

The problem starts with a C.

[Someone With Mass]

hhh89 wrote...

Sometimes I'm said that I don't hate any squadmate. The happiness that you (I mean every person who hate some squadmate) prove when a certain squadmate can die/die should be unimaginable.
About the SB support, I'll guess there is some mission to do for Liara in ME3, or it's all given due LOTSB?

You'll have to do a little more than LotSB.

By the way, the color code disappears when you quote, so if you could be so nice to erase that little part.

[CrutchCricket]

Ryzaki wrote...
Really? You don't think Shepard could be bitter about be restored back to life via Lazarus project and having his BF/Lover hating him because Liara couldn't be bothered to share intel? Really? 

By BF/lover in this case I assume you meant the VS? And if you're putting it that way Liara is to blame for not letting the VS know what was going on, not for bringing Shepard back. Indeed the whole Horizon nastiness might've been entirely averted. I would agree with this as a valid reason to be pissed but not that she brought you back at all.

[The Elder King]

Someone With Mass wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Sometimes I'm said that I don't hate any squadmate. The happiness that you (I mean every person who hate some squadmate) prove when a certain squadmate can die/die should be unimaginable.
About the SB support, I'll guess there is some mission to do for Liara in ME3, or it's all given due LOTSB?

You'll have to do a little more than LotSB.

By the way, the color code disappears when you quote, so if you could be so nice to erase that little part.

Good to know. Are those perks some kind of war assets ?(feel free to PM me).
Thanks for reminding me. I fixed it.

Modifié par hhh89, 05 décembre 2011 - 09:44 .

[Jeanne22]

Ryzaki wrote...

Jeanne22 wrote...

No. Your Shepard doesn't like being alive anymore? Shoot yourself - problem solved.

Clearly not wanting to be brought back to life by a terrorist organization means one's suicidal. Obviously.

Yes, beeing a reaper avatar or some fuel for their smoothie machine is so much better <_<

[CrutchCricket]

Someone With Mass wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

she's the shadow broker she doesn't need to be fighting on the ground when she can be pulling strings to have every situation go in Shepard's favor to the best of her SB abilities.

She does in ME3.

Why? 

The problem starts with a C.

"C...rap, why is Shepard making me accompany him on the ground when I could be on the Normandy sifting through information"?

Her being on the Normandy neither interferes with her Shadow Broker capabilties nor does it force her in personal combat. Not necessarily.

[Ryzaki]

CrutchCricket wrote..

By BF/lover in this case I assume you meant the VS? And if you're putting it that way Liara is to blame for not letting the VS know what was going on, not for bringing Shepard back. Indeed the whole Horizon nastiness might've been entirely averted. I would agree with this as a valid reason to be pissed but not that she brought you back at all.

It really depends on how you view what happened when your Shep died. Mine was at peace and got that rudely interrupted for more BS and death so yeah that was just fine for him to be pissed. Add that with Miranda's "oh I was gonna put a control chip in you but TIM said no." and he's pretty much like "wow. Liara gave me over to Cerberus and didn't even bother verifying if they wouldn't do crap like that." Gee thanks.

[Ryzaki]

Jeanne22 wrote...
Yes, beeing a reaper avatar or some fuel for their smoothie machine is so much better <_<

Uh nope. Shep would've been dead.

All Liara had to do was completely destroy the corpse.

[Someone With Mass]

CrutchCricket wrote...

"C...rap, why is Shepard making me accompany him on the ground when I could be on the Normandy sifting through information"?

Her being on the Normandy neither interferes with her Shadow Broker capabilties nor does it force her in personal combat. Not necessarily.

She can to if she wants. She has some replacements.

[Melra]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

she's the shadow broker she doesn't need to be fighting on the ground when she can be pulling strings to have every situation go in Shepard's favor to the best of her SB abilities.

She does in ME3.

Why? 

The problem starts with a C.

"C...rap, why is Shepard making me accompany him on the ground when I could be on the Normandy sifting through information"?

Her being on the Normandy neither interferes with her Shadow Broker capabilties nor does it force her in personal combat. Not necessarily.

Being on Normandy is hardly safe, she could safe on her own ship and not sitting on Normandy serving coffee and tea.

[MassStorm]

Ryzaki wrote...

Jeanne22 wrote...
Yes, beeing a reaper avatar or some fuel for their smoothie machine is so much better <_<

Uh nope. Shep would've been dead.

All Liara had to do was completely destroy the corpse.

And you would not have ME2 nor ME3. Liara retrieving the corpse and giving it to Cerberus is canon deal with it

[Ryzaki]

MassStorm wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Jeanne22 wrote...
Yes, beeing a reaper avatar or some fuel for their smoothie machine is so much better <_<

Uh nope. Shep would've been dead.

All Liara had to do was completely destroy the corpse.

And you would not have ME2 nor ME3. Liara retrieving the corpse and giving it to Cerberus is canon deal with it

Uh yeah so what? 

that doesn't affect the fact that my Shep would've preferred Liara destroy his body instead of handing it over to **** scientists. 

Edit: Apparently N.A.Z.I. is starred out.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 05 décembre 2011 - 09:53 .

[Ravensword]

Ryzaki wrote...

MassStorm wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Jeanne22 wrote...
Yes, beeing a reaper avatar or some fuel for their smoothie machine is so much better <_<

Uh nope. Shep would've been dead.

All Liara had to do was completely destroy the corpse.

And you would not have ME2 nor ME3. Liara retrieving the corpse and giving it to Cerberus is canon deal with it

Uh yeah so what? 

that doesn't affect the fact that my Shep would've preferred Liara destroy his body instead of handing it over to **** scientists. 

Edit: Apparently N.A.Z.I. is starred out.

Use National Socialist instead.

[Someone With Mass]

Melrache wrote...

Being on Normandy is hardly safe, she could safe on her own ship and not sitting on Normandy serving coffee and tea.

No. She can't.

[D.Kain]

Why not just make Shepard a lonely specter without a crew, that meets his party members on missions while they are busy? All party members temporary. =)

[MassStorm]

Ryzaki wrote...

MassStorm wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Jeanne22 wrote...
Yes, beeing a reaper avatar or some fuel for their smoothie machine is so much better <_<

Uh nope. Shep would've been dead.

All Liara had to do was completely destroy the corpse.

And you would not have ME2 nor ME3. Liara retrieving the corpse and giving it to Cerberus is canon deal with it

Uh yeah so what? 

that doesn't affect the fact that my Shep would've preferred Liara destroy his body instead of handing it over to **** scientists. 

Edit: Apparently N.A.Z.I. is starred out.

Errrr....do you like playing ME?

Modifié par MassStorm, 05 décembre 2011 - 09:59 .

[CrutchCricket]

Ryzaki wrote...
It really depends on how you view what happened when your Shep died. Mine was at peace and got that rudely interrupted for more BS and death so yeah that was just fine for him to be pissed. Add that with Miranda's "oh I was gonna put a control chip in you but TIM said no." and he's pretty much like "wow. Liara gave me over to Cerberus and didn't even bother verifying if they wouldn't do crap like that." Gee thanks.

Hmm. Burining up from atmospheric entry and asphyxiating from a suit leak... not very peaceful. Since none of us has died at all much less died that way I can safely doubt that's a valid way of looking at it. See the Liara thread for my reply on the control chip (jeez I'm arguing this with you across like 3 threads lol). And what exactly was Liara supposed to say "Here's Shepard's body you better not put a control chip in him". And then TIM says "Sure we'll get right on that" with his fingers crossed. Think of the stupidest way that conversation could've played out. Then assume it happened. Still doesn't leave Liara with any control over whether that happens or not. Thus not her fault.

[Ryzaki]

MassStorm wrote...

Errrr....do you like ME?

I love ME.

I just don't feel that forced friendships should be apart of it. Shep should have a wide range of reactions to each of his squaddies or at the very least friends/associates.

I do not want to be forced to hug characters my Shep does not like.

I liked Garrus intro (though that was ruined later by most of the "just like old times." dialogue). Shep could go 'OMG GARRUS! *holds out arms for hug*' or "oh Garrus." 

[Ryzaki]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Hmm. Burining up from atmospheric entry and asphyxiating from a suit leak... not very peaceful. Since none of us has died at all much less died that way I can safely doubt that's a valid way of looking at it. See the Liara thread for my reply on the control chip (jeez I'm arguing this with you across like 3 threads lol). And what exactly was Liara supposed to say "Here's Shepard's body you better not put a control chip in him". And then TIM says "Sure we'll get right on that" with his fingers crossed. Think of the stupidest way that conversation could've played out. Then assume it happened. Still doesn't leave Liara with any control over whether that happens or not. Thus not her fault.

Yeah I was kind of going with the afterdeath bit.

Uh yeah that's exactly what she was supposed to say if she was handing over a corpse to a terrorist organization. Hell she should've worked *with them* reviving Shep because she (unlike the scientists) knew shep personally. She could've provided valuable insight.

As for the control chip. Like I said using that logic you can go "LOL endgame choice in ME1 makes no difference because of ME2 and ME3." but you wouldn't. So why should this be any different.

It is her fault. If Cerberus had stolen the body then it wouldn't be her fault but she handed Shep over.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 05 décembre 2011 - 10:07 .

[CrutchCricket]

Ryzaki wrote...
Yeah I was kind of going with the afterdeath bit.

Uh yeah that's exactly what she was supposed to say if she was handing over a corpse to a terrorist organization. Hell she should've worked *with them* reviving Shep because she (unlike the scientists) knew shep personally. She could've provided valuable insight.

As for the control chip. Like I said using that logic you can go "LOL endgame choice in ME1 makes no difference because of ME2 and ME3." but you wouldn't. So why should this be any different.

It is her fault. If Cerberus had stolen the body then it wouldn't be her fault be she handed Shep over.

Working with them might not have been an option from either end.

I didn't use endgame logic. We really need to concentrate this discussion in one place... see Liara thread

Yeah... not her fault

[Ryzaki]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Working with them might not have been an option from either end.

I didn't use endgame logic. We really need to concentrate this discussion in one place... see Liara thread

Yeah... not her fault

Then she shouldn't have handed the body over.

Really though this is from my RP that Shep is not comfortable in the Lazarus body because it is *not* the same and he has doubts as to how human he really is anymore.

Yes it is her fault. (and we will do this back and forth all day so we should probably agree to disagree).