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[CmndrFisher]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

My plan for galactic domination is proceeding as planned.

Step aside, Dragon!  I will not be thwarted.  I shall prevail!

[Had-to-say]

Your grandchildren will colonize this planet. This is how:www.youtube.com/watch

[J0HNL3I]

cool normally my threads die after about 3 posts lol

[Had-to-say]

Technology will speed up our race towards immortality. I think we should now discuss/pass legislation for technology free zones. I fear the singularity for us and future generations. The next few decades could be very scary. www.youtube.com/watch

I think this will help us travel among the stars.

[Obadiah]

I thought the story was pretty interesting, but just remember they are deducing the existence of these planets based on the twinkling of the stars they orbit, and (I think) red-shifts in their light to determine distance. We know quite a lot about the universe, but considering how much we keep discovering, I'm not ready to jump for joy based on these deductions just yet.

Would be pretty awesome if it turns out to be true. How do you think the colonization rights might play out? I'm guessing if colonizing planets ever became viable, we could be looking at a whole new reason for conflicts between countries and corporations.

Modifié par Obadiah, 07 décembre 2011 - 02:14 .

[KenKenpachi]

greengoron89 wrote...

If a one-world government ever became a reality, I imagine that would make things a little less complicated in the colonization rights department - and since that's sort of what is being pushed for by world superpowers, it's possible that will in fact be the case come time space colonization is feasible.

Or perhaps I'm just being too idealistic. I guess we'll find out sooner or later.

Heh you forget nationallities, races, political groups. Theres only two ways that will happen without nearly endless civilwar.

Either a world Military Neo-facist Government such as the UNSC or the Federation (Halo/Starship troopers) Or one nation that finally beats the **** out of/takes over the rest. Hell the US even mentions "North American Union" all over North America you find people grabbing rifles. The EU faces stiff resistance in any sort of combination short of Trade or Military....a peaceful One World Order? Hah...hundreds of years from now maybe.

And yeah alot of superpowers push it but at the end this happens

"So gentlemen we all agree?"

*Various replies of Yes*

"Then we all should let America lead and serve as the model."

*Various you go kiss my ass replies and threats of war* (Feel free to replace the US with nation of choice, results stay the same)

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 06 décembre 2011 - 11:02 .

[Had-to-say]

Obadiah wrote...

I thought the story was pretty interesting, but just remember they are deducing the existence of these plants based on the twinkling of the stars they orbit, and (I think) red-shifts in their light to determine distance. We know quite a lot about the universe, but considering how much we keep discovering, I'm not ready to jump for joy based on these deductions just yet.

Would be pretty awesome if it turns out to be true. How do you think the colonization rights might play out? I'm guessing if colonizing planets ever became viable, we could be looking at a whole new reason for conflicts between countries and corporations.

I think humans should learn sustainabilty on Earth first before we contaminate the cosmos with our dirty laundry. IMHO. www.youtube.com/watch

[Halfdan The Menace]

Y'all sure that is not the "Greys" homeplanet?

 Description: 3-4ft tall, bluish grey in colour, large bug-like black eyes, slit for a mouth, small nose. 3 fingers and a thumb, long spindly arms and legs. Often seen with small dwarf-like creatures (pets?). Type most commonly seen in abduction cases.

[KenKenpachi]

Actully kidding aside Modestmentalmogul....how do you even say that?!

Stephen Hawkings holds a firm view we shouldn't even leave the Earth nevermind the solar system for that reason. I don't agree with that but I DO agree with what he thinks, that the chances are if we run into another speices in the cosmo's thats expanstionist, chances are they'll be very hostile. And will fallow us back home.

Hence why I think spreading is good, fight them with space for time, and scorched Earth. As a Militant species, one of two , well three things will happen, at some point we might either win or get a draw. Technology may overly favor them in which case our best hopes is what the Gurkha's did to the English. Kill enough of them to give them pause and hopefully become something like shock or slave troops.

As the Third option is, Humanity is wiped out.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 06 décembre 2011 - 11:40 .

[Funkcase]

KenKenpachi wrote...

Actully kidding aside Modestmentalmogul....how do you even say that?!

Stephen Hawkings holds a firm view we shouldn't even leave the Earth nevermind the solar system for that reason. I don't agree with that but I DO agree with what he thinks, that the chances are if we run into another speices in the cosmo's thats expanstionist, chances are they'll be very hostile. And will fallow us back home.

Hence why I think spreading is good, fight them with space for time, and scorched Earth. As a Militant species, one of two , well three things will happen, at some point we might either win or get a draw. Technology may overly favor them in which case our best hopes is what the Gurkha's did to the English. Kill enough of them to give them pause and hopefully become something like shock or slave troops.

As the Third option is, Humanity is wiped out.

Thats pretty insulting, the Gurkha's are a respected part of the British military and they serve with honour, they're not slaves. Anyway less politics I guess.

Anyway I'm pretty sure Stephen Hawking stated that we need to look for a new planet if we want to survive as Earth isn't going to last forever.

Modifié par Funkcase, 06 décembre 2011 - 11:52 .

[KenKenpachi]

Funkcase wrote...

KenKenpachi wrote...

Actully kidding aside Modestmentalmogul....how do you even say that?!

Stephen Hawkings holds a firm view we shouldn't even leave the Earth nevermind the solar system for that reason. I don't agree with that but I DO agree with what he thinks, that the chances are if we run into another speices in the cosmo's thats expanstionist, chances are they'll be very hostile. And will fallow us back home.

Hence why I think spreading is good, fight them with space for time, and scorched Earth. As a Militant species, one of two , well three things will happen, at some point we might either win or get a draw. Technology may overly favor them in which case our best hopes is what the Gurkha's did to the English. Kill enough of them to give them pause and hopefully become something like shock or slave troops.

As the Third option is, Humanity is wiped out.

Thats pretty insulting, the Gurkha's are a respected part of the British military and they serve with honour, they're not slaves. Anyway less politics I guess.

Anyway I'm pretty sure Stephen Hawking stated recently that we need to look for a new planet if we want to survive as Earth isn't going to last forever.

Today true enough, in the early years Empire the Gurkha's were required to provide a number of soldiers per year though it was worded as "Volutonteers" But as with the Chinese, in the Early years the Empire was pretty "Flexable" on its contracts, and thats not politics to be debated, but fact. The Empire isn't fondly rememberd by its Subjects for the most.


Also

Both are true

http://www.huffingto...le=Charlie_Rose_

http://news.yahoo.co...-165214150.html

He seems of the mind, we should spread, but avoid all alien contact....which up to a point won't be possible.

[rolson00]

no the british troops battle them then made a peace treaty and then payed them to be in our army we british never enslaved them they were hired as mercsand i found  "kill enough of us highly insulting"

Modifié par rolson00, 07 décembre 2011 - 12:03 .

[KenKenpachi]

rolson00 wrote...

no the british troops battle them then made a peace treaty and then payed them to be in our army we british never enslaved them they were hired as mercsand i found  "kill enough of us highly insulting"

Which where given lower pay, poorer acomendations, taught unquestioning loyality and subserviance to English officers. and no members of there race serve as officers in the Royal Army, keep trying to make the Empire look proper. And the Peace treaty was only signed as they did what the Hindu's couldn't. Stoped the Empire in its tracks. 

Black Water, thats Mercs, these guys are more like the French FL, minus at the end its "Sod off" least the french give you citizenship.

Reguarldess its the point behind the treaty I was making. A hostile advancing power would spare us ONLY If we could stop them. Or at least put up a respectable fight.

And true enough Goron.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 07 décembre 2011 - 12:09 .

[rolson00]

KenKenpachi wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

no the british troops battle them then made a peace treaty and then payed them to be in our army we british never enslaved them they were hired as mercsand i found  "kill enough of us highly insulting"

Which where given lower pay, poorer acomendations, taught unquestioning loyality and subserviance to English officers. and no members of there race serve as officers in the Royal Army, keepy trying to make the Empire look proper. And the Peace treaty was only signed as they did what the Hindu's couldn't. Stoped the Empire in its tracks. 

Black Water, thats Mercs, these guys are more like the French FL, minus at the end its "Sod off" least the french give you citizenship.

Reguarldess its the point behind the treaty I was making. A hostile advancing power would spare us ONLY If we could stop them. Or at least put up a respectable fight.

And true enough Goron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurkha
http://en.wikipedia....gade_of_Gurkhas
http://www.army.mod....khas/nepal.aspx
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10782099

they fought along side us in ww2 and  have they right to live in uk we honored them as allies and as warriors so unless you can provide multiple sources that proves we enslaved them cheated them and robed them of their culture stop posting heresay and hatred.

[KenKenpachi]

WW2 is 1940, I'm speaking of pre WW1 history.

Like it or not, your Empire, or least when you had one is coverd in as much bloodshed as any other, even the US. There is nothing "Nobel" about any of it or any of them the simple truth is they all get where they are as well, if you can beat down the others around you, you are the boss. Thats how it is, I don't have to tell little lies or "causes" to make it better for me to hear.

Its like panama, we kept it and made use of the locals to build the Canal, as well we could and they couldn't stop us. Russia expanded as it could kill the other locals. You can say King and Country but well...the powerful always tred on the week, till they are cast down by one who is stronger. The English Empire in its hieght was no different, the Zulu's the conquest of India, the Opium Wars, the unfair treaty for Hong Kong. All Empires are that way. But if you want to hang on to a "Nobility" thats not nor ever was there, go ahead. Nations take things the same reason any person does. Greed and as it can. Then again I read too much into Real Poltik.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 07 décembre 2011 - 01:34 .

[Jalapeno Man]

Hopefully, if there is intelligent life:
1. Won't attempt to conquer us (cuz that's what we would do to them)
2. Reach us first

[Halfdan The Menace]

KenKenpachi wrote...

Actully kidding aside Modestmentalmogul....how do you even say that?!

Well the Greys is one of the most well known extraterrestrial species that have (and still) visited Earth. It's unclear why they come to Earth and what they want, however many confirmed reports over the last five decades prove that this highly advanced race of beings are friendly and are coming to our Human world for a purpose. Their homeworld supposed to be in Zeta Reticuli star system, but I don't think so because the new planet is more suitable for oxygen-based life to live in..

Modifié par ModestmeNTaLmogul, 07 décembre 2011 - 03:20 .

[grregg]

ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

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Well the Greys is one of the most well known extraterrestrial species that have (and still) visited Earth. It's unclear why they come to Earth and what they want, however many confirmed reports over the last five decades prove that this highly advanced race of beings are friendly and are coming to our Human world for a purpose. Their homeworld supposed to be in Zeta Reticuli star system, but I don't think so because the new planet is more suitable for oxygen-based life to live in..

One of the most well known? I do realize that I might regret asking but exactly how many extraterrestrial species are known?

[Fiery Phoenix]

A-K-M wrote...

Hardly a twin at 2.4 times the size and no solid surface.

It could have a solid surface; we don't know yet. But still, at 2.4 times the size of Earth, it is hardly a twin. Even if it does have a rocky surface, life would be quite hard there, and any living critters would likely be large, slow-moving creatures. We also don't know if the planet has an atmosphere yet, which is vital for life. And if it does have an atmosphere, what is that atmosphere comprised of? If the majority of the atmosphere contains carbon dioxide, then that means insufferable amounts of heat due to the greenhouse effect, as is the case with Venus, whose surface temperature is hot enough to melt iron. There is also the possibility that this could be an ocean planet, which would open a new range of opportunities for marine life.

It's a great discovery nonetheless. Very happy to see Kepler doing its job. It's only been a couple of years since it launched and Kepler is already discovering Earth-like planets!

[rolson00]

KenKenpachi wrote...

WW2 is 1940, I'm speaking of pre WW1 history.

Like it or not, your Empire, or least when you had one is coverd in as much bloodshed as any other, even the US. There is nothing "Nobel" about any of it or any of them the simple truth is they all get where they are as well, if you can beat down the others around you, you are the boss. Thats how it is, I don't have to tell little lies or "causes" to make it better for me to hear.

Its like panama, we kept it and made use of the locals to build the Canal, as well we could and they couldn't stop us. Russia expanded as it could kill the other locals. You can say King and Country but well...the powerful always tred on the week, till they are cast down by one who is stronger. The English Empire in its hieght was no different, the Zulu's the conquest of India, the Opium Wars, the unfair treaty for Hong Kong. All Empires are that way. But if you want to hang on to a "Nobility" thats not nor ever was there, go ahead. Nations take things the same reason any person does. Greed and as it can. Then again I read too much into Real Poltik.

reread my post and quote the part when i said any of  that im not saying we didnt do terrible things in our time but we more than made up for it by fighting two world wars . both of them we fought the first half alone but again if your going to make a point then give relevent sources other wise your simply trolling and being racist to people from the uk (i am of course refering to things like your kill enough of us comment)