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King Minos wrote...

Modestmentalmogul: do you actually believe all this? I'm curious, I enjoy learning about space and chances of other life but I am unsure about what you just posted. I believe in aliens, but little grey ones?


Yes, but I don't trust the aliens, even the benevolent Greys. Aliens always being aliens, there's nothing good about them. To them we are the aliens on this tiny blue planet, the reason they didn't attack us back then when we doesn't even have firearms because they need us for their experiments and sh*t.

Clips you should watch;

Underground Reptilian City Discovered In Egypt

Astronaut Buzz Aldrin Recounts Apollo 11 UFO Encounter

Buzz Aldrin Reveals Existence of Monolith on Mars moon

Phil Schneider - The Man That Helped Release The Imprisoned Watchers
(PM me if you want to see his full video)

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You do realise don't you that the US government by suggestion CIA circulated UFO stories and other mysterious and other worldly stories: In order to cover up experimental technology. For example the spy planes of the early 1960's were used regularly to monitor Soviet programs, given the obviously top secret nature of the planes and their maiden flights, the CIA circulated hundreds of media stories of flying saucers in order to throw off any soviet spies and the public of anything untoward.

Indeed many people who witnessed such planes often believed them to be of alien nature as these early planes were unlike anything else that existed and what's more it seems the CIA were experimenting with craft shaped like Saucers, technology liberated from the **** originally. Of course this all helped to feed the growing fears of UFO's and aliens rather than American military technology.

Look at the current top generation spy planes like the Blackbird. If you saw that in the early 70's wouldn't you think it was a UFO? I do not dismiss the existence of alien life but I do dismiss plain mythology that has no basis in the real world.

Also, you want to know who's responsible for those cattle mutilations? It's not aliens but your own federal government. The US government has effectively indoctrinated the US public to the existence of aliens and alien abductions. Why? probably to distract people from the existence of prototype weapons and experiments. It's not like governments haven't mass misled people before.

Sorry for the long winded text. Just wanted to get that off my chest so to speak.

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I have to say that I liked ModestmeNTaLmogul's delusions better. Sorry but CIA cannot beat Saddam Hussein's time machine. And an underground lizard city? Awesome. I wish I had an imagination like that...

Modifié par grregg, 10 décembre 2011 - 03:19 .


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Space colonization in general is not on the horizon any time soon. I'm confident it will come in time, but we have a long way to go. I imagine the Moon would be the first thing we establish ourselves on - then the rest will slowly follow.

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Before it happens someone needs to work out a business plan. Until then there's no reason to colonize anything and scientific exploration doesn't pay the bills.


Mining the moon could pay for itself. I'm surprised we're not doing it yet. It's understandable though, given the United States is unable to stick to longterm goals. We could have made another trip to the moon, if Obama hadn't cancled the Constellation Program. I wouldn't be surprised if another President in the near future stopped NASA from sending people to Mars because he has other plans. 

That's why China's future in space looks more promising: because they can actually carry out longterm goals. In the United States, politicians aren't as united. It's "us vs. them" in American politics. Any political party can get rid of the longterm goals the previous party put into place in favor of their own longterm goals and then when another political party comes into power, they can get rid of any longterm goals that that previous political party set up and so forth. 

So again, that's why China has the best shot actually making mining in space a reality. Price is certainly a problem when it comes to space exploration but so are goals that take a long time to complete and if we don't actually stick with them till the end, then we'll never get anywhere. I mean, we didn't just cancel the Apollo program half way through.

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I don't believe in science.

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Soon the mineral resources of Earth will be depleted and we live with more than 8-9 billions of populations who have not enough fuel, food and energy to make an easy and good life. So WW3 will be happening.
At least make a colony and some mine on moon, before it begins. Dammit!

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Soon the mineral resources of Earth will be depleted and we live with more than 8-9 billions of populations who have not enough fuel, food and energy to make an easy and good life. So WW3 will be happening.
At least make a colony and some mine on moon, before it begins. Dammit!


I just saw the Tree of Life. I feel so bad for Earth.

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greengoron89 wrote...

Space colonization in general is not on the horizon any time soon. I'm confident it will come in time, but we have a long way to go. I imagine the Moon would be the first thing we establish ourselves on - then the rest will slowly follow.


We'll have to drive out those pesky aliens that have already colonized the moon first! Image IPB

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I for one welcome our new alien overlords!

I'm going to pull a Dr. Breen on all of you guys, except it will work this time. Anybody want a position of power in my administration? Benefits include not being raped by aliens and your smiling image on giant video screens everywhere.

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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Space colonization in general is not on the horizon any time soon. I'm confident it will come in time, but we have a long way to go. I imagine the Moon would be the first thing we establish ourselves on - then the rest will slowly follow.


We'll have to drive out those pesky aliens that have already colonized the moon first! Image IPB





I think it is more likely that ESA and the Indian space program will re-visit the moon than NASA or the Chinese program. The Chinese lack the finer technology for manned flights at the moment not too mention their last satellite broke down before it even reached it's objective. NASA well the shuttle program has been scrapped and with the economic downturn, it is unlikely that they will commit to an expensive long term initiative anytime soon. 

As for ESA? well they are already very active with the international space station and what's more they provide for over 50% of current and successful probes to Mars and is currently building two more. One for Mars and one for an asteroid landing. As well as providing most of the material and equipment for a man landing to Mars in 2017 or early 2018.
  
India has already successfully launched probes to the moon and it was their probes who discovered the existence of water on the moon- a vital resource for an kind of spacecraft. They are also if rumor is correct designing their own shuttles for future manned missions.

One thing is clear is that: Space is no longer an American dominated endeavor, the future belongs to the rest of us. It is up to the rest of the world to decide the course of the future and design/ created the technology of the future.

Enough said. 

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grregg wrote...

I have to say that I liked ModestmeNTaLmogul's delusions better. Sorry but CIA cannot beat Saddam Hussein's time machine. And an underground lizard city? Awesome. I wish I had an imagination like that...

Image IPB lol!  imagination? whatever, glad you liked it. Ignore that guy, he thinks humans are alone in this gigantic universe...


Top Secret UFO Nasa Tapes

The REAL reason why they haven't been back to the Moon

Bill Uhouse Area 51 Alien Underground Base from Bases 2

Underwater Pyramids 5000 Years Older than Egypt

Belgian Air Force discusses UFO sightings

Former Astronaut says Aliens are Here

Alien Gods Return 2012

I already posted this, but I'll post it again because this is the real sh!t;
2 Billion Year Old Nuclear Reactor

Did Ancient Aliens Nuke the Earth?

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I for one welcome our new alien overlords!

I'm going to pull a Dr. Breen on all of you guys, except it will work this time. Anybody want a position of power in my administration? Benefits include not being raped by aliens and your smiling image on giant video screens everywhere.

*Hits you with a crowbar*

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ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

grregg wrote...

I have to say that I liked ModestmeNTaLmogul's delusions better. Sorry but CIA cannot beat Saddam Hussein's time machine. And an underground lizard city? Awesome. I wish I had an imagination like that...

Image IPB lol!  imagination? whatever, glad you liked it. Ignore that guy, he thinks humans are alone in this gigantic universe...


Top Secret UFO Nasa Tapes

The REAL reason why they haven't been back to the Moon

Bill Uhouse Area 51 Alien Underground Base from Bases 2

Underwater Pyramids 5000 Years Older than Egypt

Belgian Air Force discusses UFO sightings

Former Astronaut says Aliens are Here

Alien Gods Return 2012

I already posted this, but I'll post it again because this is the real sh!t;
2 Billion Year Old Nuclear Reactor

Did Ancient Aliens Nuke the Earth?


I never said that mankind is alone in the universe. Quite the opposite actually, I simply find the supposed existence of an underground city of lizards as extremely unlikely/far-fetched.  I have my beliefs and you have yours, at the end of the day it's all just a matter of opinion. Let bygones be bygones no? 

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Capt. Obvious wrote...

grregg wrote...

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Before it happens someone needs to work out a business plan. Until then there's no reason to colonize anything and scientific exploration doesn't pay the bills.


Mining the moon could pay for itself. I'm surprised we're not doing it yet.
(...)


Well, you're going to have to show me some numbers here. As far I as know, it's far from obvious that you can actually do profitable mining operations on the Moon.

The problems are obvious, just look at the price estimates for the Constellation project. Together with the Commercial Crew and Cargo component it was supposed to be 230 billion USD. And I don't think anyone truly believed that NASA would be able to do it within budget. That's a big upfront investment.

You'd have to do one heck of a lot of mining to recoup that investment. And the problem is that most of the stuff that you can mine on the Moon you can get cheaper (and without space heroics) here on Earth, while the stuff that you can't get on Earth, you probably can't sell because there is no market for it.

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ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

grregg wrote...

I have to say that I liked ModestmeNTaLmogul's delusions better. Sorry but CIA cannot beat Saddam Hussein's time machine. And an underground lizard city? Awesome. I wish I had an imagination like that...


Image IPB lol!  imagination? whatever, glad you liked it. Ignore that guy, he thinks humans are alone in this gigantic universe...

(...)


Yes, imagination. As I said, it is a very creative mythology. It's the same very human impulse that put 'There Be Dragons' on the old maps, cyclops in ancient Greek myths, Prester John somewhere is Asia and Gog and Magog in some unspecified location, just to name some of the old myths.

You have to remember that the original purpose of religion and mythology was to explain the world and its complexities. And as it turns out, modern humans are as religious as our ancestors. We simply replace ghosts, demons, etc. with little Grey men.

What really is the difference between modern UFO mythology insisting that Aldebarans supported Hitler's Germany and Greys made a deal with the president of the United States, and the old Greek mythology telling stories of Athena, Ares and Aphrodite involvement in the Trojan War? New coat of paint, better gadgets, but the underlying human desire to explain the world (while telling some good stories and possibly impressing some girls) remains the same.

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www.snagfilms.com/films/title/top_10_ufo_sightings This clip is 4 years old but informative on the UFO issue.;)

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The Everchosen of Chaos wrote...

I never said that mankind is alone in the universe. Quite the opposite actually, I simply find the supposed existence of an underground city of lizards as extremely unlikely/far-fetched.  I have my beliefs and you have yours, at the end of the day it's all just a matter of opinion. Let bygones be bygones no? 


Yeah man, my bad.

About the Reptilians, I don't think they really are "aliens", I think they evolved here on Earth way before the mammals. Let me tell you something, Reptilian humanoids are a proposed race of intelligent, supernatural, or highly developed reptile-like humanoids in mythology, popular fiction, pseudoscientific theories and in the writings of New Age conspiracists. They appear in some conspiracy theories, most notably those of Riley Martin, John Rhodes, David Icke, and in science fiction. Reptoids, a conjoined word defining Reptilian-Humanoid beings, is the most popular name used to describe these cryptid beings, although some authors also refer to them as dinosauroids, lizardfolk or lizardmen. Other names include Draconians, Saurians and Sauroids. They are often described as being green or gold color. Similar to the other cryptids, no one has produced proof of the existence of reptilian humanoids, and allegations of their existence can at best be referred to as cryptozoology or pseudoscience.

Several ancient peoples all over the world have described reptilian beings, and some have described reptilian humanoids. Common in numerous mythologies are tales of reptilian creatures (usually not humanoid) who are often, but not always, hostile to human beings. Also rather common are the myths of "Serpents of Wisdom" who enlightened humanity before the dawn of civilization. Some individuals, doubting claims of reptilian humanoid sightings or contacts, suggest that the mythological preeminence of reptilian forms could stem from a genetic memory of instincts developed millions of years ago, when mammals were the prey of the reptiles which dominated the Earth. Dreams of reptiles are often interpreted as symbolizing "ancient drives" and "instinctive responses".

Metaphysical Myths Based on Metaphors
The Reptilians are the creation of the Carians, (Bird Headed Beings) their parent race. They evolved on a planet in the Alpha Draconis star system of the Orion Constellation. The royal line of Reptilians are the Draconians, or Winged Dragons from the House of El. Reptiles have two major sub races, Winged Serpents (Snakes) and Lizards (Lizzies.) Reptilians have a highly sophisticated knowledge of universal law and are allegedly responsible for the Mystery School Teachings on Earth. The Reptilians allegedly were given a creational agenda by the Carians. They were to move through the universe and destroy any existing civilization they found along the way, recreating new DNA codes and entities following those codes. It was part of a Master Plan, a Universal Game, Polarity Integration, reality in conflict, an experiment in emotions, resulting in soul evolution at the end of the cycles of its existence.

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About Thuban ... (See Draco Map Above)

Thuban (Draconis / Alpha Draconis) is a star (or star system) in the constellation of Draco. A relatively inconspicuous star in the night sky of the Northern Hemisphere, it is historically significant as having been the north pole star in ancient times. Even though Thuban carries the Bayer designation Alpha Draconis, at apparent magnitude 3.65 it is over a magnitude fainter than the brightest star in the constellation, Dra (Etamin), whose apparent magnitude is 2.23. Thuban is not bright enough to be viewed from light-polluted areas. The Alpha designation is apparently due to its history as the ancient pole star.

Given good viewing conditions, Thuban is relatively easy to spot in the night sky, due to its location in relation to the Big Dipper asterism of Ursa Major. While it is well known that the two outer stars of the 'dipper' point to the modern-day pole star Polaris, it is less well known that the two inner stars, Phecda and Megrez, point to Thuban, just seven and a half degrees of arc from Megrez.

Due to the precession of Earth's rotational axis, Thuban was the naked-eye star closest to the north pole from 3942 BC, when it moved farther north than Theta Boötis, until 1793 BC, when it was superseded by Kappa Draconis. It was closest to the pole in 2787 BC, when it was less than two and a half arc-minutes away from the pole. It remained within one degree of true north for nearly 200 years afterwards, and even 900 years after its closest approach, was just five degrees off the pole. Thuban was considered the pole star until about 1900 BC, when the much brighter Kochab began to approach the pole as well.

Having gradually drifted away from the pole over the last 4,800 years, Thuban is now seen in the night sky at a declination of 64° 20' 45.6", RA 14h 04m 33.58s. After moving nearly 47 degrees off the pole by 10000 AD, Thuban will gradually move back toward the north celestial pole. In 20346 AD, it will again be the pole star, that year reaching a maximum declination of 88° 43' 17.3", RA 19h 08m 54.17s.

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This is my favorite documented UFO case to date. www.youtube.com/watch Truth is we have no idea what these are, no way of knowing whether or not these have live beings aboard them.

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Notice how everybody wants to GTFO of Earth even if it means traveling 600 lightyears away?

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ModestmeNTaLmogul wrote...

The Everchosen of Chaos wrote...

I never said that mankind is alone in the universe. Quite the opposite actually, I simply find the supposed existence of an underground city of lizards as extremely unlikely/far-fetched.  I have my beliefs and you have yours, at the end of the day it's all just a matter of opinion. Let bygones be bygones no? 


Yeah man, my bad.

About the Reptilians, I don't think they really are "aliens", I think they evolved here on Earth way before the mammals. Let me tell you something, Reptilian humanoids are a proposed race of intelligent, supernatural, or highly developed reptile-like humanoids in mythology, popular fiction, pseudoscientific theories and in the writings of New Age conspiracists. They appear in some conspiracy theories, most notably those of Riley Martin, John Rhodes, David Icke, and in science fiction. Reptoids, a conjoined word defining Reptilian-Humanoid beings, is the most popular name used to describe these cryptid beings, although some authors also refer to them as dinosauroids, lizardfolk or lizardmen. Other names include Draconians, Saurians and Sauroids. They are often described as being green or gold color. Similar to the other cryptids, no one has produced proof of the existence of reptilian humanoids, and allegations of their existence can at best be referred to as cryptozoology or pseudoscience.

Several ancient peoples all over the world have described reptilian beings, and some have described reptilian humanoids. Common in numerous mythologies are tales of reptilian creatures (usually not humanoid) who are often, but not always, hostile to human beings. Also rather common are the myths of "Serpents of Wisdom" who enlightened humanity before the dawn of civilization. Some individuals, doubting claims of reptilian humanoid sightings or contacts, suggest that the mythological preeminence of reptilian forms could stem from a genetic memory of instincts developed millions of years ago, when mammals were the prey of the reptiles which dominated the Earth. Dreams of reptiles are often interpreted as symbolizing "ancient drives" and "instinctive responses".

Metaphysical Myths Based on Metaphors
The Reptilians are the creation of the Carians, (Bird Headed Beings) their parent race. They evolved on a planet in the Alpha Draconis star system of the Orion Constellation. The royal line of Reptilians are the Draconians, or Winged Dragons from the House of El. Reptiles have two major sub races, Winged Serpents (Snakes) and Lizards (Lizzies.) Reptilians have a highly sophisticated knowledge of universal law and are allegedly responsible for the Mystery School Teachings on Earth. The Reptilians allegedly were given a creational agenda by the Carians. They were to move through the universe and destroy any existing civilization they found along the way, recreating new DNA codes and entities following those codes. It was part of a Master Plan, a Universal Game, Polarity Integration, reality in conflict, an experiment in emotions, resulting in soul evolution at the end of the cycles of its existence.

Image IPB
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About Thuban ... (See Draco Map Above)

Thuban (Draconis / Alpha Draconis) is a star (or star system) in the constellation of Draco. A relatively inconspicuous star in the night sky of the Northern Hemisphere, it is historically significant as having been the north pole star in ancient times. Even though Thuban carries the Bayer designation Alpha Draconis, at apparent magnitude 3.65 it is over a magnitude fainter than the brightest star in the constellation, Dra (Etamin), whose apparent magnitude is 2.23. Thuban is not bright enough to be viewed from light-polluted areas. The Alpha designation is apparently due to its history as the ancient pole star.

Given good viewing conditions, Thuban is relatively easy to spot in the night sky, due to its location in relation to the Big Dipper asterism of Ursa Major. While it is well known that the two outer stars of the 'dipper' point to the modern-day pole star Polaris, it is less well known that the two inner stars, Phecda and Megrez, point to Thuban, just seven and a half degrees of arc from Megrez.

Due to the precession of Earth's rotational axis, Thuban was the naked-eye star closest to the north pole from 3942 BC, when it moved farther north than Theta Boötis, until 1793 BC, when it was superseded by Kappa Draconis. It was closest to the pole in 2787 BC, when it was less than two and a half arc-minutes away from the pole. It remained within one degree of true north for nearly 200 years afterwards, and even 900 years after its closest approach, was just five degrees off the pole. Thuban was considered the pole star until about 1900 BC, when the much brighter Kochab began to approach the pole as well.

Having gradually drifted away from the pole over the last 4,800 years, Thuban is now seen in the night sky at a declination of 64° 20' 45.6", RA 14h 04m 33.58s. After moving nearly 47 degrees off the pole by 10000 AD, Thuban will gradually move back toward the north celestial pole. In 20346 AD, it will again be the pole star, that year reaching a maximum declination of 88° 43' 17.3", RA 19h 08m 54.17s.


So, what your more or less telling me is the these supposed creatures are/were the inspiration or were the literal reprensations of the ancient gods/godesses of Eygpt?? And that apparently some them for mysterious reasons decided to destroy sentient life? Am I right so far or have I missed something? :huh:

How does this correlate these reptiles to basically uplifting ancient man technologically if, as you say they were hell bent on destruction on a cosmic scale? Sounds slightly contradictory to be honest.

It sounds interesing and who knows maybe those systems are inhabinated, but so far it's strecthing my suspension of disbelief. No offence to you mate and actually I was a bit like you once, into all those conspiracy theories and everything. Had a real UFO obession for awhile but it calmed. Still, I find this all very interesting including your theories. You've been working on this for sometime haven't you?

What do you know of the societees called Contactees?

Sorry for being very off-topic. I'll try to keep that to a minimium.This a good thread Imo.

Live Long and prosper. Sorry, couldn't resist LoL. ^_^

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The observable universe is at least 93 billion light years. According to general relativity, space can expand faster than the speed of light, although we can view only a small portion of the universe due to the limitation imposed by light speed. Since we cannot observe space beyond the limitations of light, it is uncertain whether the size of the universe is finite or infinite.

So is the light too slow for us to see it?

If the expansion outruns the speed of light, we will never be able to see the edge of the universe.

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An underground city full of lizardmen? What is this? Neverwinter Nights? Next, orcs, elves and dwarves are going to pop up and then World War III will begin. Of course there is other life out there, it's a big universe but has other life ever come to us? I doubt it. People keep thinking of other life as being super intelligent and all that but for all we know, the nearest star could be home to a civilization who haven't the resources to build rockets and cars and are just running and jumping about with armor while wielding swords and what not.

Thinking that Reptilians - that are listed to be part of the NWO's schemes - are living under earth is just...madness!

Unless I see evidence of these reptilians, I'm not going to believe they exist.

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Isn't earth2 populated with superheroes?

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Elton John is dead wrote...

People keep thinking of other life as being super intelligent and all that but for all we know, the nearest star could be home to a civilization who haven't the resources to build rockets and cars and are just running and jumping about with armor while wielding swords and what not.


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Like Gungans, Wookies and Ewoks!

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I found this post in response to a MSN article. I had to share it with my fellow space enthusiasts.

Up until the time of the continental railroad
it took about six months to travel from
New York to San Francisco.
Either on sailing ships around the horn or
overland with covered wagons.

After the railroad was completed,
it took six days.

With jets, airport to airport,
about six hours.

Aboard a Mercury Space Capsule,
about six minutes.

All this happened in less than 100 years.

The Wright Brother’s first
powered flight was in 1903.
They flew for about 12 seconds.

In 1947, 44 years later, Chuck Yeager
flew faster than the speed of sound,
mach 1.07.

22 years later, in 1969, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed on the moon.

http://cosmiclog.msn...rbital-launches

This is really something to think about if you look at it all together in context. Maybe we will reach these far away galaxies after all.