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Grimwald the Wise

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I am trying to solo with a Cavalier and am having great difficulty.
Firstly, I cannot get the ring of freedom of action because I have no thief. That means that I am highly susceptible to hold spells, web and the like, and there are few potions of freedom.

I tried it with a Tiefling and whilst that had its good points, I always ran into problems with hold.

I then tried with an Air Genasi to overcome this problem and ended up getting killed with sleep spells. (I have SCS installed) I am considering trying Air Genasi again due to the fact that I was at least getting near to the experience cap with that one!

Does anyone have suggestions regarding the sleep spell?

I think that protection from magic should help, but as those scrolls are few and far between I was wondering if anyone else has other ideas. e.g. other sub-races since I have the sub-race mod installed. Do any potions or items help against sleep?

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With potions of Magic Protection(sold from High Hedge), potions of Clarity(Found at some random locations and in Baldurs Gate stores), potions of freedom(High Hedge has 3), the Scroll of Magic Protection from the Area East of the Carnival and High Hedge - you should have no problems getting to the Iron Throne for the Ring of Free Action(carried by one of the people you have to kill at the top floor).

Otherwise you can just stop by Ulgoth's Beard and pick up the Greenstone Amulet. It's very cheap and has 10 charges that gives you immunity to pretty much everything for 1 round pr. use.

Hope this helps.

Warning semi-spoilers ahead.
Before getting the Ring, you only need to use Greenstone Charges for Mulahey in Nashkel Mines, Tranzig(not really, but just in case) in Beregost, The Bandit Camp Leaders at the Bandit Camp(there's a potion of magic protection in a barrel in this room), Davaeorn in Cloakwood Mines & the two Assassin groups(Lamahla's Amazons and Molkar's Group) and the Iron Throne Leaders in Baldurs Gate Docks District.

Other people it's useful against are Nimbul(the assassin that appears in Nashkel after you kill Mulahey - but as a Cavalier you wont need to as he only casts Horror - no other control spells), the Cleric Assassin in the Nashkel Inn, Bassilus in the area south of High Hedge and Tarnesh outside the Friendly Arm Inn(again he only uses Horror just like Nimbul).

I cannot comment on the Sub-Race part, as I don't use it for my No Reload runs.

Modifié par Easymask, 07 décembre 2011 - 10:25 .


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If you have access to spiders bane then problem solved… it says no clerics on the weapon but the non-fixed version can’t be equipped by a pally (just unclick the box marked pally). If you want it then you can get a portion of invisible from Jaheira and use it to enter the cave without fighting… then equip the sword and you are immune to whatever they try to do to you.
p.s

The standard build is two handed sword & axe (gives you a range weapon) but for my money the pally is better in groups & not really designed for soloing. :wub:

Modifié par ussnorway, 07 décembre 2011 - 10:56 .


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I'd actually say that the Paladin kits are quite solo friendly, even though the no-ranged weapons(meaning no arrows of dispelling) for the Cavalier is a bit harsh, seeing as they have everything from Charm to Hold immunity as well as access to most weapons(including the increadibly powerful Carsomyr).

Modifié par Easymask, 07 décembre 2011 - 11:57 .


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A solo fighter can beat vanilla BG 1, therefore, I see no reason a solo paladin couldn't do it as well. Greenstone amulet though is helpful for a solo-er, no doubt.

I am unclear, however, if they can solo in SCS.

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Challenge Accepted Corey - my next No Reload'er will be a Cavalier!

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Grimwald the Wise wrote...
I am trying to solo with a Cavalier and am having great difficulty.
Firstly, I cannot get the ring of freedom of action because I have no thief. That means that I am highly susceptible to hold spells, web and the like, and there are few potions of freedom.

Getting the ring from Dushai is easy if you are not restricting the use of Algernon's Cloak.  Just charm him and move him away from the village so that other people don't go hostile.  Then take your pick of:
- use his own spells to kill himself (summoning particularly useful here)
- exhaust his spells and then attack (dangerous option as he is likely to still have MMM and contingency / sequencers (depending on your mods)
- also charm the other gnome in Ulgoth's Beard and then get Dushai to put the boot (fist) in on him.

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Grond0 wrote...

Grimwald the Wise wrote...
I am trying to solo with a Cavalier and am having great difficulty.
Firstly, I cannot get the ring of freedom of action because I have no thief. That means that I am highly susceptible to hold spells, web and the like, and there are few potions of freedom.

Getting the ring from Dushai is easy if you are not restricting the use of Algernon's Cloak.  Just charm him and move him away from the village so that other people don't go hostile.  Then take your pick of:
- use his own spells to kill himself (summoning particularly useful here)
- exhaust his spells and then attack (dangerous option as he is likely to still have MMM and contingency / sequencers (depending on your mods)
- also charm the other gnome in Ulgoth's Beard and then get Dushai to put the boot (fist) in on him.


But as a Cavalier, how do you get Algernon's cloak? You can't pickpocket him, and since your charisma is so high, you don't get Lord Foreshadow's ring so that you can charm him and get others to attack him. As a Cavalier could you really use the tactics you suggested to get the ring of freedome of action? Yes it is possible, but from a role playing point of view highly implausable.

Thanks everyone for the other replies. Does the Greenstone amulet protect from sleep? If it does, it was something that I didn't realise.

Modifié par Grimwald the Wise, 08 décembre 2011 - 06:27 .


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Grimwald the Wise wrote...
But as a Cavalier, how do you get Algernon's cloak? You can't pickpocket him, and since your charisma is so high, you don't get Lord Foreshadow's ring so that you can charm him and get others to attack him. As a Cavalier could you really use the tactics you suggested to get the ring of freedome of action? Yes it is possible, but from a role playing point of view highly implausable.

Thanks everyone for the other replies. Does the Greenstone amulet protect from sleep? If it does, it was something that I didn't realise.

Lawful Good is in the eye of the beholder.  You could make a case based on the greater good, or on the paladin's (often misplaced) certainty about their own actions being justified.  However, you'll obviously decide how you want to play the game.

Greenstone amulet does protect against sleep.

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As with any class, soloing with a Paladin can seem very difficult in SCS, however, once you get your routing and character management down, it can become matter of course.

As you've observed, disablers are the biggest risk. So long as you can keep control of your character, don't bite off more than you can chew, and know when to run, safe passage can be found.

With regards to Hold, there is definitely a sufficient number of defensive options available if you manage your exposure. There are the 3 Potions of Freedom in High Hedge as you noted, but there are other options for thwarting Hold spells as well. Potions of Magic Shielding, Potions of Magic Blocking, Protection from Magic Scrolls are among them. If Spider's Bane is available to your Paladin in your install, then you needn't nearly stretch the limits of the available options.

As an example, you could use one Potion of Freedom on Mulahey, one in Cloakwood 2, and then secure Spiders Bane which would cover your Hold needs throughout the adventure. You may be wondering about Neira, Bassilus, and the Amazonians of course. Simple: don't fight them- not untill you have Spider's Bane or excess consummables. And what about the Ghasts and such. Simple again: don't get near them.

Even without Spider's Bane, Hold needn't be a problem. You could, for example, use on Potion of Freedom on Mulahey, use a Potion of Invisibility to get through Cloakwood Area 2, and then have 2 Potions of Freedom for Improved Giant Spider ambushes as well as Invisibility options. The Cloakwood Mines, are a reasonable place to use your higher value options (Potion of Magic Sielding for example). And once The Gate is open, there are more Potions of Freedom and Potions of Magic Shielding available to you not to mention a Ring of Free Action.

Of course, none of this does you any good if you are falling asleep on the job. As others have noted, the Greenstone Amulet ( but not Potions of Clarity) can protect you from sleep spells and the rest of the mind effect spells. You may find it wise to get the Greenstone Amulet before confronting any spell casters at all (That's typically what I do).

Anyhoo. Best of luck!

Best,

A.

@ Easymark. You shouldn't have trouble no reloading a cavalier in SCS. My only concern would be doing the Duchal Palace fight with the Improved Greater Doppelgangers sans Dispelling Arrows. If you are willing to use the doors though (something which I don't allow personally but that others feel comfortable doing) it's manageable.

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Thanks for the advice everyone. My current character is doing fine due to being an Air Genasi who has freedom of action once a day. So now all I need to worry about is sleep, chaos etc. I have 10% less experience, but that is no problem. However, I will keep the advice in mind for when I use a character of another race. Have posted how my character is doing on the no-re-loads thread. She is doing fine so far.

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Be aware of Sirines. They killed my solo Cavalier since i simply didn't know they have a confusing attack in melee.