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[Drone223]

Didn't know Eclipse had Batarian's, also bad a** Elcor FTW

Modifié par Drone223, 09 décembre 2011 - 08:54 .

[Captain_Obvious_au]

Mesina2 wrote...

Well, all I can say is for the fleets, Cord-Hislop Aerospace.

All good and well, but what sort of ships do they make? I mean can you reaistically imagine a company that makes pleasure yachts suddenly chruning out frigates and cruisers without at least one country noticing?

[Zorziban the Great]

I've heard negative things about the comics. I really like the books and I want to dive into the universe more. But are the comics really that bad?

[Gabey5]

uhh why is omega being attacked by creepers important?

maybe i have been out the loop

[CroGamer002]

Wulfram wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Well, all I can say is for the fleets, Cord-Hislop Aerospace.

Still requires utter incompetence on the part of all non-cerberus organisations for them not to notice

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...

All good and well, but what sort of ships do they make? I mean can you reaistically imagine a company that makes pleasure yachts suddenly chruning out frigates and cruisers without at least one country noticing?

In Mass Effect universe, all ships require to have weapons otherwise you'll be an easy picking for pirates.

Sure, there are people who drive unarmed ships though they also got picked up by pirates.



So yeah, this ships most definitely need to be armed.


And that company can just play out they have contracts in Terminus System's for all those ships though in reality just secretly transferring ships to Cerberus secret bases in Terminus System's.

And there's no rule not to have contracts there.

[Captain_Obvious_au]

Possible I guess. Actually I've just bene playing 'Napoleon: total War' - I'd imagine that the best Cerberus would have would be something like the Indiamen trade ships. They're technically civillian, but can go toe-to-toe with a Frigate and survive.

[Wulfram]

There's a big differnece between armed merchant ships and actual warships. Though I suppose pretending to be a freighter could be why the Normandy SR2 has all that wasted space.

Sales of advanced warships to hostile foreign powers is not something which you could do without attracting extensive attension, from authorities and intelligence agencies

Not really on topic, but I suspect being armed is only really necessary in places like the Traverse and the Terminus systems - while most trade is presumably in safe regions between the Asari and the volus. For a freighter, you're unlikely to be able to fight very effectively anyway - better to be ready to go to FTL at the first sign of trouble, surely.

[The_11thDoctor]

Really enjoying the comics! I cant wait to see what all happens next... 1-2 was quite the shock. I can only hope the new ME novel turns out great as well. I hear Drew isnt doing it, so it has me very worried...

[Xerxes52]

Mass Effect Player wrote...

hypothead wrote...

I feel bad for Aria, I hope they don't turn her into an asari husk thing.

Really? I feel more bad for Cerberus. I'm not sure they know exactly who their messing with.

Aria might become a victim of the Worf Effect.

Modifié par Xerxes52, 10 décembre 2011 - 05:20 .

[JeffZero]

Worf got his groove on for good with DS9, though. I'm sure Aria could bounce back in a spinoff show.

[Dean_the_Young]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

Merchant2006 wrote...

^ I'm not surprised about a Cerberus Fleet. If you play ME2 and let everyone die in the end, and you also hand the base to TIM you see Joker do the mission report, followed by TIM swivelling on his chair and putting up a hologram up of the collector base and several huge cerberus vessels coming out of FTL towards it. So... yeah.... most likely Cerberus has been building up it's forces since then.

Ok, I don't remember any of this, and having just checked youtube renegade endings, I can't see it. Where the hell are you getting this?

http://www.youtube.c...hdc53Od8#t=574s

TIM sends a fleet of ships, and takes the base for himself.

It's hardly a fleet, or implicitly anything more than freighters.

[TMA LIVE]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Arkitekt wrote...

Merchant2006 wrote...

^ I'm not surprised about a Cerberus Fleet. If you play ME2 and let everyone die in the end, and you also hand the base to TIM you see Joker do the mission report, followed by TIM swivelling on his chair and putting up a hologram up of the collector base and several huge cerberus vessels coming out of FTL towards it. So... yeah.... most likely Cerberus has been building up it's forces since then.

Ok, I don't remember any of this, and having just checked youtube renegade endings, I can't see it. Where the hell are you getting this?

http://www.youtube.c...hdc53Od8#t=574s

TIM sends a fleet of ships, and takes the base for himself.

It's hardly a fleet, or implicitly anything more than freighters.

Still a collection of ships, which is classified as a fleet. As for what type of ships they are (shrugs).

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 10 décembre 2011 - 11:13 .

[Captain_Obvious_au]

No, it isn't. A collection of ships is a flotilla, you could even call it a Task Force, but more than two ships doesn't automatically make a fleet.

[TMA LIVE]

It's 5 ships popping in before cutting back to TIM. That's more then 2. With more possible popping in off camera.

Besides, what does it matter what kind of ships they are?

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 11 décembre 2011 - 03:16 .

[Dean_the_Young]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Still a collection of ships, which is classified as a fleet.

Uh, only if you want to avoid all context.

A military fleet, which is the sort of fleet we're talking about here, is far more than a collection of ships. A 'fleet' (which by your classification is anywhere from 2 to infinity) of civilian transport ships is an entirely different thing than a fleet of cruisers and fighters and frigates.

[Seboist]

Eudaemonium wrote...

Paula Deen wrote...

So wait...Cerberus has its own cruisers now? And enough troops to take over Omega?

What?

They also went from having only 3 cells (learnt from EDI) at the end of ME2 to having a massive army enough t compose 40% of the enemies in ME3. I think it's safe to say Cerberus has whatever the plot demands.

I don't call Cerberus the series' "plot clay" for nothing.

[TMA LIVE]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Still a collection of ships, which is classified as a fleet.

Uh, only if you want to avoid all context.

A military fleet, which is the sort of fleet we're talking about here, is far more than a collection of ships. A 'fleet' (which by your classification as more then 2 ships, and about 5 or more) of civilian transport ships is an entirely different thing than a fleet of cruisers and fighters and frigates.

And why does it matter if it's a military fleet or not? They could be research ships. I made no claim they were a defense force.

Also, fixed.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 11 décembre 2011 - 02:30 .

[Dean_the_Young]

TMA LIVE wrote...

And why does it matter if it's a military fleet or not?

If you can't be bothered to understand the conversations you interject yourself into, I suppose it doesn't matter at all.

[TMA LIVE]

Alright, be a party pooper. But if I misinterpret what you're getting at, then that's your fault, being all vague and stuff after asking.

If because the ships and numbers don't look big or military in that clip, I'm guessing you see that as proof that Cerberus doesn't have a military fleet, or not proof that they do?

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 11 décembre 2011 - 03:08 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

Mesina2 wrote...

^So, wait.


Over a year ago you guys complained why Cerberus didn't create an army instead of Lazarus Project, they completely ignored army expense arguments because we're not sure how's economy doing in ME universe, BUT NOW IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO YOU?!

The hell?!

Small private army NOT EQUAL large fleet + large army.

Companies like Blackwater have theri small army. They DON'T have warships.

Governments allowing ANYONE who isn't octuple-check inside and out to own any kind of space-faring vessel makes even LESS sense. A spaceship is a WMD.
Also, spaceships are expensive.

Space pirates and everyone owning spaceships only happens in sci-fi that don't want to have anything to do with reality.

[Heimdall]

I imagine there are ship producing companies in the Terminus systems that don't care much about who they sell to.

[Arkitekt]

Having a spaceship factory and having the resources to build and maintain them by yourself are two very separate "abilities". Of course they can be linked, but the second "achievement" still has to be explained with something more than "hey we have the factories so..."

And I do believe they will explain it. Even if by some retarded retcon.

[1136342t54_]

Arkitekt wrote...

Having a spaceship factory and having the resources to build and maintain them by yourself are two very separate "abilities". Of course they can be linked, but the second "achievement" still has to be explained with something more than "hey we have the factories so..."

And I do believe they will explain it. Even if by some retarded retcon.

Cerberus has spent trillions of credits on all of their operations since they have existed. They had so many people in the Alliance that the Alliance had to really crack down and needed Turian help. They also get funding from many many private funders (which seem to be billionaires) then have had some connections with former Alliance black ops programs. Plus they seem to have dozens or hundreds of shell companies.

Cerberus has the money, resources and even the knowledge for it (plus the ships could be older models which would be cheaper?) they just needed the will to use it. Hell I even doubt all the money truly came from the sources I named since Cerberus does have enough money that could effectively make them a small (very very small) interstellar nation.

[Sgt Stryker]

Arkitekt wrote...

Having a spaceship factory and having the resources to build and maintain them by yourself are two very separate "abilities". Of course they can be linked, but the second "achievement" still has to be explained with something more than "hey we have the factories so..."

And I do believe they will explain it. Even if by some retarded retcon.

Well, there was that one shipyard in the Voyager cluster, where they built the Normandy SR2. I doubt they would have the capability to do much more than that, though. Maybe they somehow captured that cruiser (or "captured" it, if you know what I mean).

[Lotion Soronarr]

Lord Aesir wrote...

I imagine there are ship producing companies in the Terminus systems that don't care much about who they sell to.

I'll take athat old, unarmed fraighter, accelerate to a fraction of C and ram into yaour capital city. BAM!
Lots of fun for the whole family.

Any propulsion system powerfull enough to be interesting in space is also powerfull enough to be a weapon.
Also, Sir Isaac Newton is hte deadliest sunova**** in space.