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[scotty1234]

 I am having issues, I really like Captain Kirrahe, but on PS3 it always mentions him dying.
Is there a way to keep him alive on the PS3 version?

[caradoc2000]

Shouldn't it be the same for all platforms? You need to do all four side quests on Virmire before you enter Saren's compound for him to survive.

[BentOrgy]

Unless of course, you remember that ME1 never was released for the PS3, unless I missed something. Which means, barring Genesis giving you the option, Kirrahe will always be dead.

Another reason why porting the title was a very bizarre thing to do. PC and 360 is where ME started, and where it should have ended.

(And no, I;m not anti-Sony, in case that stupid argument was going to come up. If anything, I'm a Sony loyalist, considering most things for the 360 are too westerner for me.)

[caradoc2000]

If they didn't give the option for PS players, then it probably won't matter for ME3.

[didymos1120]

caradoc2000 wrote...

If they didn't give the option for PS players, then it probably won't matter for ME3.

Define "matter".  If by that you mean "drastically alters the plot" then no, it won't "matter".  However, from the leaked demo, we already know he shows up on Sur'kesh if he's alive, so if you just care about the character and the opportunity to interact with him, then he matters in the sense relevant to you.

Modifié par didymos1120, 08 décembre 2011 - 12:49 .

[BentOrgy]

Didy's right, in terms of plot, characters that can die probably won't "Matter," charatcers like Kirrahe.

However, I'm sure that many players will find that he, along with other characters that they've strived to keep alive, will matter; because he's there, and actually a part of the story. Didy mentioned the demo, and as he said, Kirrahe's there, but that isn't all; in the same demo Kirrahe says that he and his team will gladly fight alongside Shep because of their past on Virmire. That to me provides - if only a small piece of - evidence that Kirrahe, along with the other squad members you've allowed to live, will "Matter," to a greater degree than just fan-service.

Which will be a welcome change from how ME2 handled things.

Modifié par BentOrgy, 08 décembre 2011 - 01:11 .

[scotty1234]

That makes sense, I was just wondering because in the interactive comic, it shows Ash with Kirrahe and Kaiden defending the nuke, I thought maybe if you chose to save Ash you would also save the Salarian STG team. Thanks for helping, I have both Xbox and PS3, I have played one which is how I know he is in the game. I will simply buy it for 360 so I will not miss out on anything~! Thanks for all of your answers.

[ShadowAussie]

I don't understand I also saved ash as a male shep on virmire when ash & the salarian STG team were surrounded but I dont understand why mordien says he heard Kirrahe died. wouldn't he be alive???

[Mr Zoat]

Use the Gibbed editor to change his fate, even if the first games doesn't exist on your system.

[Thirdsub]

strange considering he's in the ps3 demo

[ShadowAussie]

yeh but that demo was mean't for PC or xbox & they just couldnt be **** changing the demo because they already taken off alot of crap that comes from mass effect 1 which wasn't brought to the ps3.

[Dimensio]

Mr Zoat wrote...

Use the Gibbed editor to change his fate, even if the first games doesn't exist on your system.

I was unaware that a variant of the Gibbed editor allowed for modification of the Playstation 3 save game files.

[Mr Zoat]

*Checks his save editor*
Oh yeah. Just Pc and XBox. Well, maybe you could ask really nicely.

[thelemicCharientism]

that's incredibly lame. does this mean there is no way to have kirrahe alive in me3 on ps3?

i have the cerberus pack for me2, what is the "genesis" that BentOrgy mentioned?

[PsiFive]

From what I've heard Genesis is DLC consisting of an interactive comic that installs into ME2 and launches before the main game. It runs you through a short version of the main ME1 plot and allows you to make 5 or 6 major decisions that you would have to have made if you played the first game: Shep's class and personal/service history, any love interest and if so who, whether Wrex lived after the confrontation on Virmire and who out of Ashley and Kaiden got killed when the bomb went off, whether you saved the council.... stuff like that. Anything that comes up on sidequests is not covered and so ME2's default applies, and also some of the details on main plot missions are not gone into either, including Captain Kirrahe by the sounds of things. I think the idea of Genesis is to give the PS3 folk who've never had a port for their platform and probably never will the chance to influence their ME2 game, or at least the important parts, the way those of us on PC and XBox can.

Have you changed platforms? If you know who Kirrahe is then it sounds like you played ME1, but you're saying how it sucks if you can't have him alive makes it sound like you're on PS3. If so then Genesis won't help you in that detail (and dozens of others) but will at least let you design a Shep and decide who he or she has bumped uglies with before ME2 begins.

[Outamyhead]

If you saved Kaiden then Kirrahe should be alive.

[caradoc2000]

Kirrahe doesn't have anything to do whether you save Ashley or Kaidan.

[vixvicco]

BentOrgy wrote...

Unless of course, you remember that ME1 never was released for the PS3, unless I missed something. Which means, barring Genesis giving you the option, Kirrahe will always be dead.

Another reason why porting the title was a very bizarre thing to do. PC and 360 is where ME started, and where it should have ended.

(And no, I;m not anti-Sony, in case that stupid argument was going to come up. If anything, I'm a Sony loyalist, considering most things for the 360 are too westerner for me.)

Or, they could have just ported the first game to PS3. That makes more sense to me than letting PS3 owners miss out.  I actaully took the effort to play it on PC even though my primary  gaming console is a PS3 and I played the other two on it. 

Its too bad they made that decison. If you really want to keep the Captain alive, continue the series on PC.

[thelemicCharientism]

PsiFive wrote...

From what I've heard Genesis is DLC consisting of an interactive comic that installs into ME2 and launches before the main game.

ah yes, i got me2 a lot later after it came out, so  have no idea what happened around then/ but i did get the cerberus pack, which came with the interactive comic, so yea that's cool.

i'm just a bit dissapointed that all of my hard work in me1, which i've played for countless hours on pc, means nothing.

[jeweledleah]

vixvicco wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

Unless of course, you remember that ME1 never was released for the PS3, unless I missed something. Which means, barring Genesis giving you the option, Kirrahe will always be dead.

Another reason why porting the title was a very bizarre thing to do. PC and 360 is where ME started, and where it should have ended.

(And no, I;m not anti-Sony, in case that stupid argument was going to come up. If anything, I'm a Sony loyalist, considering most things for the 360 are too westerner for me.)

Or, they could have just ported the first game to PS3. That makes more sense to me than letting PS3 owners miss out.  I actaully took the effort to play it on PC even though my primary  gaming console is a PS3 and I played the other two on it. 

Its too bad they made that decison. If you really want to keep the Captain alive, continue the series on PC.

actualy they coudln't have, as the publishing rights belong to Microsoft... aka xbox publisher, aka PS3's biggest competitor.  

Outamyhead wrote...

If you saved Kaiden then Kirrahe should be alive.

 

that is not true.  Kirrahe's survivel is independant from that of the choice of virmire survivor.  its also independant from the choice of going to the bombsite, vs AA guns.  Salarians were split into 3 teams remember?  by the time you get to the VS choice, the other 2 teams were already picked up, only Ash/Kaidan led team was stranded.

you need to assist the distraction teams prior to getting to the base as well as disable alarms instead of redirecting them to save Kirrahe, something thats' unfortunately impossible with Genesis and/or on PS3, due to players not actualy being able to play through the actual mission.

P.S. as far as I know - if you import ME1 save and have genesis comic installed, instead of giving player choices, it just plays through uninteractively

Modifié par jeweledleah, 13 mai 2012 - 07:36 .

[Ultima_Redeemer]

I know this thread is old but Bioware could release ME1 for ps3 all they have to do is use the ME2 or ME3 engine cause they own all the rights to the pc version. Then they could title it Mass Effect Genesis or something.

[BeastSaver]

didymos1120 wrote...

caradoc2000 wrote...

If they didn't give the option for PS players, then it probably won't matter for ME3.

Define "matter".  If by that you mean "drastically alters the plot" then no, it won't "matter".  However, from the leaked demo, we already know he shows up on Sur'kesh if he's alive, so if you just care about the character and the opportunity to interact with him, then he matters in the sense relevant to you.

Kirahe matters if you don't have Thane alive. If you don't have Thane or Kirahe, you can't save the Salarian counselor from Kai Leng. You also get war assets from him on Sur'Kesh because he wants support you in the fight against the Reapers. ME2 Genesis doesn't give you an option to save Kirahe that I remember. It also doesn't give you options to save or kill the colonists on Feros or other small plot points (Conrad Verner) that give you additional ME3 war assets.

Modifié par BeastSaver, 07 juillet 2012 - 08:31 .

[BeastSaver]

jeweledleah wrote...

vixvicco wrote...

BentOrgy wrote...

Unless of course, you remember that ME1 never was released for the PS3, unless I missed something. Which means, barring Genesis giving you the option, Kirrahe will always be dead.

Another reason why porting the title was a very bizarre thing to do. PC and 360 is where ME started, and where it should have ended.

(And no, I;m not anti-Sony, in case that stupid argument was going to come up. If anything, I'm a Sony loyalist, considering most things for the 360 are too westerner for me.)

Or, they could have just ported the first game to PS3. That makes more sense to me than letting PS3 owners miss out.  I actaully took the effort to play it on PC even though my primary  gaming console is a PS3 and I played the other two on it. 

Its too bad they made that decison. If you really want to keep the Captain alive, continue the series on PC.

actualy they coudln't have, as the publishing rights belong to Microsoft... aka xbox publisher, aka PS3's biggest competitor.  

Outamyhead wrote...

If you saved Kaiden then Kirrahe should be alive.

 

that is not true.  Kirrahe's survivel is independant from that of the choice of virmire survivor.  its also independant from the choice of going to the bombsite, vs AA guns.  Salarians were split into 3 teams remember?  by the time you get to the VS choice, the other 2 teams were already picked up, only Ash/Kaidan led team was stranded.

you need to assist the distraction teams prior to getting to the base as well as disable alarms instead of redirecting them to save Kirrahe, something thats' unfortunately impossible with Genesis and/or on PS3, due to players not actualy being able to play through the actual mission.

P.S. as far as I know - if you import ME1 save and have genesis comic installed, instead of giving player choices, it just plays through uninteractively

Genesis only plays if you didn't play/finish your ME1 game. I had some playthroughs that I didn't finish and Genesis gave me the opportunity to pick saving/sacrificing the Council and choose Udina/Anderson. If you finished your ME1 playthrough, Genesis doesn't activate at all. If you start a new game with Genesis, you can only choose Ashley or Kaidan. Kirrahe will always be dead.

Modifié par BeastSaver, 08 juillet 2012 - 03:17 .