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[Thunderdwarf]

Hi everyone!

I recently reinstalled the whole BG saga for a playthrough. Now I have 2 questions:

1: I can't decide between dwarf Fighter (berzerker in BG2) or a dwarf Fighter/Cleric. For a party in BG2 I will at least have Airee, Keldorn and Minsc.
If I go with F/C my PC will use a  warhammer and a shield, cleric buffs, healing and touch spells while Airee will go all offensive.
If I go berzerker I will go with dual-wielding warhammers and axes. Airee will have to pick up more cleric areas. A pure fighter is alot more simple, but won't he be less powerful in ToB?
I just cant decide!

2: I remember having a really cool soundset for dwarves many years ago, it was from Icewind Dale and one of the lines was "easier than goblin pie" or something. Really nice, but now I can't find it anywhere. Help!

Modifié par Thunderdwarf, 08 décembre 2011 - 07:16 .

[ussnorway]

For a dwarf F/c is a no-brainer but imo you would be better off letting Airee heal while you smite.

[Thunderdwarf]

ussnorway wrote...

For a dwarf F/c is a no-brainer but imo you would be better off letting Airee heal while you smite.

Yeah, the heals are more for all the extra spell slots due to having 21 Wisdom.

[corey_russell]

With your proposed BG 2 party, I think a fighter/cleric is also a good addition to the party.

[hannibal555]

A Berserker is powerful enough, though you already have a Dwarven Berserker with axes named Korgan ^^.
Anyway, go with what playstyle fits your type of gaming most.

Choosing a weapon, I wouldn't consider Hammer as an optimal choice (if not for roleplay or style reasons), there is but one really good weapon (Crom Faeir) in the BG2 part of the game available really late a second one (Runehammer) available in the ToB part.
Secondly if going the F/C route, CF isn't too powerful, because a cleric can achieve 25 strength by other means.
But since there are enough proficiency points availabe anyway, it doesn't really matter too much.

[Thunderdwarf]

Yes the berserker is alot more hassle-free, as I would dual axes (Stonefire/Frostreaver) until I got Crom to put in the off-hand, and then Unyielding/Crom in ToB. A hammer and an axe, kind of makes me think of the Mountain King in Warcraft 3...

F/C gives more utility. And some buffs that are useful (those that effectively lower strength and give tac0 like a fighter arent). Plus this makes Airee avalible to concentrate on nuking the enemy to bits!
This requires a bit more thought and I am afraid I would lose intrest after a while and restart as something else. But finally after all these years of seeing it a merchant's inventory, I would be able to use the dwarven thrower (which can be accessed fairly early iirc)!


Please continue to weigh in on the matter, opinions might tip the scale!
And the IWD soundset? No one knows?

Modifié par Thunderdwarf, 08 décembre 2011 - 09:13 .

[Grond0]

If you're wanting to play the whole trilogy, why not install Tutu or BGT. That will let you take advantage of the BG2 engine in BG1, so you can use a berserker there (which is probably better than a FC).

[Thunderdwarf]

Grond0 wrote...

If you're wanting to play the whole trilogy, why not install Tutu or BGT. That will let you take advantage of the BG2 engine in BG1, so you can use a berserker there (which is probably better than a FC).

Nope. I have always liked the way BG1 looks. I don't want to change it.

[Grond0]

That's fine - though you can keep the looks and just use the greater flexibility of BG2 if that's what you want anyway.

[Gate70]

I can't remember goblin pie mentioned in IWD but then I haven't played it with sound enabled recently. You also didn't mention where you'd looked. e.g. www.sorcerers.net/Games/BG2/index_soundsets.php
- Yeslick soundset
- Dwarf soundset (page 2, from warcraft 3, no idea what that sounds like)
- Icewind Dale converter pack (page 2, needs IWD installed)

Berserker shouldn't be less powerful in TOB, I was going to expand more but this is the no-spoilers section. I'm fairly sure at least one person has no-reloaded TOB with a berserker - can't remember if it was with a party, or solo on insane with Ascension installed.

Modifié par Gate70, 09 décembre 2011 - 07:19 .

[AnonymousHero]

Thunderdwarf wrote...

Yes the berserker is alot more hassle-free, as I would dual axes (Stonefire/Frostreaver) until I got Crom to put in the off-hand, and then Unyielding/Crom in ToB. A hammer and an axe, kind of makes me think of the Mountain King in Warcraft 3...

CF probably does less for you in the off hand than Belm or Kundane. (Those will add +1 attack with your main weapon. +2 if you have a means of casting Improved Haste. A few pieces of equipment can do this if you don't have a mage.) Yes, the STR bonus is nice but nowhere near an extra +2 APR if you have halfway decent strength (19+).

EDIT: The point being that clerics don't have access to Belm/Kundane.

Thunderdwarf wrote...
F/C gives more utility. And some buffs that are useful (those that effectively lower strength and give tac0 like a fighter arent).

The thing is: You use those buffs which lower STR before the ones that increase it (Righteous Magic and DUHM) -- that cancels all the negatives and gives you all the positives (THAC0).

Thunderdwarf wrote...
Please continue to weigh in on the matter, opinions might tip the scale!
And the IWD soundset? No one knows?

Play whatever strikes your fancy! The point of the game is to have fun.

No idea about the sound set, sorry.

Modifié par AnonymousHero, 09 décembre 2011 - 07:22 .

[Thunderdwarf]

AnonymousHero wrote...

Thunderdwarf wrote...

Yes the berserker is alot more hassle-free, as I would dual axes (Stonefire/Frostreaver) until I got Crom to put in the off-hand, and then Unyielding/Crom in ToB. A hammer and an axe, kind of makes me think of the Mountain King in Warcraft 3...

CF probably does less for you in the off hand than Belm or Kundane. (Those will add +1 attack with your main weapon. +2 if you have a means of casting Improved Haste. A few pieces of equipment can do this if you don't have a mage.) Yes, the STR bonus is nice but nowhere near an extra +2 APR if you have halfway decent strength (19+).

EDIT: The point being that clerics don't have access to Belm/Kundane.

Thanks for the input! A Dwarf wielding scimitars just feels so wrong, though! Maybe I should just add Jaheira instead of Minsc so she can use them.

The race and weapon choices are kind of set in stone.