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Hey Bioware can you clear up the rumors so people stop spreading false info


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#101
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Ponendus wrote...

I'm fairly sure that they have 'gone quiet' to give the extremely large MMO that started early access today a chance to have the spotlight.

I even offered them cookies for news about DA and was rejected... *sniff*


I don't think it has anything to do with the MMO, quite frankly.  I think it's basically company policy now (written or unwritten).  Rather than become embroiled in threads of what the hoi polloi think of their product (and running the risk of alienating their customer base by saying something they shouldn't), they basically stay away (unless there's an announcement to be made, of course). It's probably safer that way.  There was enough negativity floating around here with DA2 that they probably feel it's not worth the aggrevation.

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Tatinger wrote...

Ponendus wrote...

I'm fairly sure that they have 'gone quiet' to give the extremely large MMO that started early access today a chance to have the spotlight.

I even offered them cookies for news about DA and was rejected... *sniff*


I don't think it has anything to do with the MMO, quite frankly.  I think it's basically company policy now (written or unwritten).  Rather than become embroiled in threads of what the hoi polloi think of their product (and running the risk of alienating their customer base by saying something they shouldn't), they basically stay away (unless there's an announcement to be made, of course). It's probably safer that way.  There was enough negativity floating around here with DA2 that they probably feel it's not worth the aggrevation.


If that is the case, then I am sad to say I somewhat support them in their silence. I hope they know there are some of us that would like to discuss things rationally and light-heartedly without resorting to negativity all the time. Ah but if wishes were horses... something something.:?

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What if they're not saying anything about further DLC because they're combining the teams and budget to make a DA2 xpack? What if they're going to give us a preview of some changes they'll be bringing to DA3?

Or.... what if... they aren't?

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RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

What if they're not saying anything about further DLC because they're combining the teams and budget to make a DA2 xpack? What if they're going to give us a preview of some changes they'll be bringing to DA3?

Or.... what if... they aren't?


Please, maker maker it an expansion! :crying:

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If the question is really "should I stick around in the hopes of getting more information soon, or should I not bother?", then the individual user is the only one who can answer that question. it really is a question of whether you are willing to accept the risk of leaving and having us announce something. But that is always the risk you take when you follow a content creator online.

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We're never leaving. This is the space between walls that the Hellraisers live in.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

If the question is really "should I stick around in the hopes of getting more information soon, or should I not bother?", then the individual user is the only one who can answer that question. it really is a question of whether you are willing to accept the risk of leaving and having us announce something. But that is always the risk you take when you follow a content creator online.


You hear that Melca? They really have stopped supporting DA2, we were right. :crying::crying::crying:

Modifié par Filament, 14 décembre 2011 - 06:08 .


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Filament wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

If the question is really "should I stick around in the hopes of getting more information soon, or should I not bother?", then the individual user is the only one who can answer that question. it really is a question of whether you are willing to accept the risk of leaving and having us announce something. But that is always the risk you take when you follow a content creator online.


You hear that Melca? They really have stopped supporting DA2, we were right. :crying::crying::crying:


I didn't interpret it that way at all.

Think about it. Did Mass Effect 2's DLC come out all at once?  

Eventually they will say something about DLC just like how they did with Witchhunt.  And on that not, I really hope Stanley closes this thread as it appears to perpetuated more paranoia. I'll even thrown in some home baked cookies if he does.

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I'm not saying I'm planning on abandoning this forum. But I have scaled back. There's very little new dialogues about the game. It's strangely become a place where the haters just continue to hate after nearly a year after the game's release and place to hype Skrim (on the Bioware forums?!?)

I hopefully look forward to future announcements. I don't have my hopes up as I used to, but I do hope we get that expansion or a post game DLC. If profit is an issue, just skip the other in game DLCs and go straight to post game. Give Hawke something of an Act 4 and some sense of closure. That's really all I want. But, like I said, Gaider's new book hits next week and I hope those that support Dragon Age will check it out. The idea that this game is a lame duck irks me to no end.

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nedpepper wrote...

I'm not saying I'm planning on abandoning this forum. But I have scaled back. There's very little new dialogues about the game. It's strangely become a place where the haters just continue to hate after nearly a year after the game's release and place to hype Skrim (on the Bioware forums?!?)

I hopefully look forward to future announcements. I don't have my hopes up as I used to, but I do hope we get that expansion or a post game DLC. If profit is an issue, just skip the other in game DLCs and go straight to post game. Give Hawke something of an Act 4 and some sense of closure. That's really all I want. But, like I said, Gaider's new book hits next week and I hope those that support Dragon Age will check it out. The idea that this game is a lame duck irks me to no end.


Have you signed up for the newsletter? I get an email when DLC and such are announced. It isn't exactly up to date, but it keeps you informed of the major announcements.

Modifié par Zanallen, 14 décembre 2011 - 09:07 .


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No, but I have them liked on Facebook and follow the devs on Twitter. Maybe I should look into the newsletter, but every couple days I check here hoping for....something. Just an idea about the future of this franchise, which I admit to being smitten with. And that's actually a very hard thing to do with me. I love Mass Effect, but have nowhere near the fanboy adoration that I have for Dragon Age. Probably unhealthy. ; )

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I do not know why some people fear that bioware might be influenced by the negative comments on the forum about DA2, and they could stop working on new dlcs because of that.

Who are the Customers for the DLCs ? Not really those who are complaining about DA2 all the time, who hate it. DA2's content, are first for those who liked the main game, who still follow each content, even if it could be also for those with an " open mind ".

If they decide to stop working on their dlc, obviously it would be for other reasons.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 14 décembre 2011 - 09:24 .


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Sylvianus wrote...

I do not know why some people fear that bioware might be influenced by the negative comments on the forum about DA2, and they could stop working on new dlcs because of that.

Who are the Customers for the DLCs ? Not really those who are complaining about DA2 all the time, who hate it. DA2's content, are first for those who liked the main game, who still follow each content, even if it could be also for those with an " open mind ".

If they decide to stop working on their dlc, obviously it would be for other reasons.


Sales would be the most likely reason. If the profit margin from the DLC isn't meeting their expectations, they might pull the plug. Of course, we have no hard numbers concerning how profitable the DLCs have been. At best, I believe one of the devs said Legacy sold "well" or something of that regard. Personally, I think it is a little silly to get worked up about the future of the franchise as it has only been two months since the last DLC was released. I figure we will probably get some information in late December or early January, after SW:TOR is officially launched and around the same time as the ME3 demo.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

If the question is really "should I stick around in the hopes of getting more information soon, or should I not bother?", then the individual user is the only one who can answer that question. it really is a question of whether you are willing to accept the risk of leaving and having us announce something. But that is always the risk you take when you follow a content creator online.


The other option is they could take a minute of their day to log onto the Bioware forums and just check the announcements. It'd probably take even less than a minute if they have it listed on their favorites page. Very little effort needed on anyone's part.

Modifié par Il Divo, 14 décembre 2011 - 09:33 .


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Ponendus wrote...

If that is the case, then I am sad to say I somewhat support them in their silence. I hope they know there are some of us that would like to discuss things rationally and light-heartedly without resorting to negativity all the time. Ah but if wishes were horses... something something.:?

Don't worry, Ponendus. We know and we appreciate it.

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Ponendus wrote...
Ah but if wishes were horses... something something.:?


We'd all be eating steak?

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nedpepper wrote...

I'm not saying I'm planning on abandoning this forum. But I have scaled back. There's very little new dialogues about the game. It's strangely become a place where the haters just continue to hate after nearly a year after the game's release and place to hype Skrim (on the Bioware forums?!?)

I hopefully look forward to future announcements. I don't have my hopes up as I used to, but I do hope we get that expansion or a post game DLC. If profit is an issue, just skip the other in game DLCs and go straight to post game. Give Hawke something of an Act 4 and some sense of closure. That's really all I want. But, like I said, Gaider's new book hits next week and I hope those that support Dragon Age will check it out. The idea that this game is a lame duck irks me to no end.


The DA2 haters won't go away and Skyrim is  a pile of colorful dung. Huge game, lots of dungeons  with very forgettable characters. I suppose it could be worst! Mute hawke../shivers

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Huntress wrote...

nedpepper wrote...

I'm not saying I'm planning on abandoning this forum. But I have scaled back. There's very little new dialogues about the game. It's strangely become a place where the haters just continue to hate after nearly a year after the game's release and place to hype Skrim (on the Bioware forums?!?)

I hopefully look forward to future announcements. I don't have my hopes up as I used to, but I do hope we get that expansion or a post game DLC. If profit is an issue, just skip the other in game DLCs and go straight to post game. Give Hawke something of an Act 4 and some sense of closure. That's really all I want. But, like I said, Gaider's new book hits next week and I hope those that support Dragon Age will check it out. The idea that this game is a lame duck irks me to no end.


The DA2 haters won't go away and Skyrim is  a pile of colorful dung. Huge game, lots of dungeons  with very forgettable characters. I suppose it could be worst! Mute hawke../shivers



As someone who liked DA:2 but felt it could be an even better game had it not been rushed, I also enjoy Skyrim to some extent but not the same way as DA:2 or Origins.

You may not like it, but 10 million have been sold. There is a market for that sort of game. It should not be taken for granted.

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I wouldn't be surprised if MoTA were the last DLC, rightly or wrongly DA2 isn't widely loved and DLC probably won't sell that well. This is further compounded on PC by the fact modding for DA2 has been severely been hampered by the lack of a toolset, which shortened the games' shelf life. Just look at Dragon Age Nexus, the place is practically a waste land not a year after release, when at the same time in DAO's life it was booming.

All told, though I also wouldn't be surprised to see a final Witch Hunt style DLC to quickly and cleanly wrap up Hawke's story.

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Ask yourself this why would BW shortchange themselves by releasing a toolkit before they are absoloutley certain of not releasing anymore DLC's I doubt this is the last DLC as a patch is rumoured to be in the works also there are 2 more spaces for statues in both Gamlen's house and the mansion and i doubt BW would have put them there without intending to use them Hawkes story has potential to go on for a long while yet since he doesnt have a determined death date like the Warden who is pretty much certain to die withing 30 years of his Joining though Warden commander Larius seems to be an exception to this.

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jbrand2002uk wrote...
 there are 2 more spaces for statues in both Gamlen's house and the mansion and i doubt BW would have put them there without intending to use them


I could write a full page of things DA2 brings up that I feel Bioware has no intention of using.

The Band of Three letters for one, which tie right into the sewer and tunnels underneath Kirkwall that house tons of magical artificats. And the veil being overly thin at Sundermount, due to all the wars fought their over the ages in pursuit of an unknown power there. And the role of the Tevinter in making Kirkwall a giant spell form. And why the Tevinter conquered Kirkwall BEFORE they knew about mines, meaning they were throwing armies at a piece of dirt for unknown reasons, which we can only assume are magical in nature. All of these topics I could go on and discuss at length.

Then there's the role of the Kossith and their obsession with the tome of koslun - a piece of text that the QUnari held while they conquered most of the known world and immediately surrendered once it disappeared. Why the Qunari, a group which prides itself on the utility of objects and not placing any sort of unneccessary sentiment on things, would stop an invasion they had every shot at winning, when they just lost a book that they could just as easily recapture, to me says the tome has either knowledge, power or something else that the Chantry wasn't able to unlock, but give the Qunari an unbeatable power in their army.

And, speaking of the Qunari, on the loading slides of DA2, we see Viking humans, with horns on their helmets, turn into Kossith when the moon sets, with a forlorn and enraged look. Does this mean that the Kossith are humans who were long ago transformed? That they were warriors that were magically cursed? It would explain their ridgid military philosophies, their advanced war technology and their hatred of magic. Or was it just a silly loading screen slide? 

Merirl's Eluvian. 'Primeval Thaig. Red Lyrium. Nuff said.

I'm sure there is more, much more, that I could think of if I had played DA2 more recently, but this should be enough. All GREAT places for Bioware to take the story, build quests off of and use to deepen the lore. All introduced in DA2 alone, not from previous DLC or games.

And all left on the editing room floor, with no explanations or follow ups. And the two DLCs released so far deal with none of these topics, only with new ones (Hawke's family history and a heist story).




Given all that plot-rich material that they've already introduced and not touched on... and you think empty statue places are good indicators of "they wouldn't have placed them there if they weren't going to use it" for Dragon Age 2?

Okay man. Clearly rooms for statues was top on the devs list of things to care about when designing DA2.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 18 décembre 2011 - 01:39 .


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As for Merrils Eluvian, Primeval Thaig and Red Lyrium they may have left those for further Development in future media( Games,Books and comics/anime/films etc) though when it comes to the places for the memento statues to access the DLC given the placement of the 1st 2 in both Gamlen's House and the Mansion it seems rather clear the places were designed with this purpose in mind and since as there are 2 identical spaces left in both houses its not beyond logical to hazard a guess that there will be at least 2 futher DLC's possibly more if the access points are changed to wall paintings or book cases for example

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Huntress wrote...

nedpepper wrote...

I'm not saying I'm planning on abandoning this forum. But I have scaled back. There's very little new dialogues about the game. It's strangely become a place where the haters just continue to hate after nearly a year after the game's release and place to hype Skrim (on the Bioware forums?!?)

I hopefully look forward to future announcements. I don't have my hopes up as I used to, but I do hope we get that expansion or a post game DLC. If profit is an issue, just skip the other in game DLCs and go straight to post game. Give Hawke something of an Act 4 and some sense of closure. That's really all I want. But, like I said, Gaider's new book hits next week and I hope those that support Dragon Age will check it out. The idea that this game is a lame duck irks me to no end.


The DA2 haters won't go away and Skyrim is  a pile of colorful dung. Huge game, lots of dungeons  with very forgettable characters. I suppose it could be worst! Mute hawke../shivers


Mute Hawke would be amazing. Then I don't have to look at his stupid face when he cracks awful jokes.

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alex90c wrote...

Mute Hawke would be amazing. Then I don't have to look at his stupid face when he cracks awful jokes.

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Or you could just, I don't know... not pick that option?

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Atakuma wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Mute Hawke would be amazing. Then I don't have to look at his stupid face when he cracks awful jokes.

HURRRDURRRR VISCOUNT UR SON DIED HURRRDURRR IT CANT GET ANY WORSE HURRRDURRRR

Or you could just, I don't know... not pick that option?


Perish the thought, what would we be angry at then?