216 réponses à ce sujet

[TEWR]

BAH! I'm at the top of the page so I'm going to edit in my previous post which is on the bottom of the previous page.

jbrand2002uk wrote...

Actually I Disagree as she was just another cliche'd character( offspring of a immortal, where have we seen that before ?) as long as the Franchise is just another copy paste ad nauseum RPG's will go from a niche market to an obsolete market

She's technically the adopted daughter of Flemeth IIRC. There's really no evidence for one to assume that Morrigan and Flemeth are indeed blood-related.

Bayz wrote...

Ha but it was with the Killer Knife of Doom. Nobody survives that.

Just because you stabbed her in the stomach with a Misericorde doesn't mean she's dead. The name "Murder Knife" is just a fan-given name because of how often it's used to kill someone, usually through incredibly fatal injuries like slit throats, knives to the back of the head, etc.

People often survive being stabbed in the stomach and you can clearly see that Morrigan is still alive when she goes through the portal.

So no, she is not dead. You tried to kill her, but your Warden failed to make sure she would actually die. For all we know going through the portal heals any and all injuries.

Also, you would've just left a child to be all alone in an unknown realm, with no mother. She still ends up having a kid IIRC, but if you didn't do the DR it's not an OGB. Had she actually died that is.

EDIT: Rereading this, I contradicted myself because I forgot a few words.



As to the OP's post: Morrigan is not enough to save the franchise. However, I do want her to return.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 22 décembre 2011 - 08:18 .

[ColGali]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

There's really no evidence for one to assume that Morrigan and Flemeth are indeed blood-related.

When asked, Flemeth told Hawke, that Morrigan is neither her daughter or her enemy.

[Brockololly]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
She's technically the adopted daughter of Flemeth IIRC. There's really no evidence for one to assume that Morrigan and Flemeth are indeed blood-related.

Eh, you could just as easily say there isn't any evidence that she isn't Flemeth's biological daughter. Morrigan questions whether she is Flemeth's biological daughter, but thats all we ever really get there- Morrigan's own self doubt.

ColGali wrote...
When asked, Flemeth told Hawke, that Morrigan is neither her daughter or her enemy.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/policeman.png[/smilie]

Not quite- what Hawke says with respect to Morrigan is:

Hawke: "I'm not sure whether she's your daughter or your enemy."
Flemeth: "Neither is she."

Which I always thought just meant how Morrigan has her own self doubts as to whether she is biologically the daughter of Flemeth and at the time Flemeth is saying that, Morrigan is likely uncovering whatever Flemeth's true nature is, like she mentions in Witch Hunt, thus Morrigan starting out in Origins not thinking much of Flemeth then realizing she is something beyond an abomination.

Unless you're reading Flemeth's "Neither is she" line with Yoda inflection, thinking she's saying Morrigan is neither her daughter or her enemy. But thats not how Mulgrew read the line.

[jbrand2002uk]

I take the line to mean that she's her daughter but that Morrigan is not sure if she is or isn't, I suspect Flemeth is either one of the old gods or somehow related to the maker though more likely an Old god as one of the old gods Duhmat was also known as the dragon of silence

[Fast Jimmy]

I think her being an Old God is pretty likely, or possibly a Tevinter Magister who survived seeing the Black City, like Corey.

But, at the same time, I think those options may at this point be too obvious. I think either A) Bioware won't go that route, but throw some crazy option from left field into the mix that best explains Flemeth or she IS one of these things, but that is only the tip of the iceberg, and her devious plot will be something that comes from left field.

Bioware loves it shocking moments. I'm curious to see what it will be when Flemeth is unveiled... if she ever is? I suppose they could just keep building the mystery with no explanation.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 21 décembre 2011 - 02:24 .

[Rawgrim]

I wonder why Flemeth can wear armour, if she is a mage. Mages can`t wear armour in Thedas anymore.

[TEWR]

I wonder why Flemeth can wear armour, if she is a mage. Mages can`t wear armour in Thedas anymore.

not sure if serious.

Because there are plenty of mage armors in DAII that are... well... armor.

[Rawgrim]

I never saw those. All I found was robes. Mostly the same robe over and over again - with different names.

[jbrand2002uk]

Even so each time I look at Morrigan my 1st thought is "Hercules with ******"

[Dariustwinblade]

So you never got Andelon's vestment. A mage armor stronger than warrior chapion armor.

[Aren19]

Considering DA3 might be about the Mage and Templar War, I doubt we'll be seeing Morrigan as a main character anytime soon. Although I do miss her, bringing Morrigan back might not be enough.

[TheRealJayDee]

jbrand2002uk wrote...

Even so each time I look at Morrigan my 1st thought is "Hercules with ******"

Your mind works in mysterious ways.  But I already suspected that much based on most of your other posts.

[Realmzmaster]

Rawgrim wrote...

I never saw those. All I found was robes. Mostly the same robe over and over again - with different names.

The Mage champion armor is not a robe. You see that armor in the trailer where Hawke is fighting the Arishok.

The Regalia of Weisshaupt for the mage is also armor not robes.

Smugglers robe and light strapping is not a mage robe.  If Hawke is a mage or Bethany is alive this is what they are wearing after the first year.

Modifié par Realmzmaster, 21 décembre 2011 - 06:26 .

[Ianamus]

To be incredibly blunt, I don't want Morrigan back. Her story was ended with the Warden, and to bring her back they would have to make a canon becuase of the very important choices involving her, not to mention the choice of [Spoiler]: killing her

I did love Morrigan's character though. She was one of the most memorable characters I've ever seen in a game. A combination of very good writing a a very good voice actress. 

In fact, one thing Origins always had in it's favor was that both of the leads (Morrigan and Alistair) were very memorable characters, love them or hate them (Well, in my opinion anyway). They also had very good interaction with each other and the other characters. I liked the characters in Dragon Age 2, but none of them were quite as good as those two.  

What we need in the next game are new characters. New charaters that are as memorable, well-written and vital to the to the plot as those two. But with how subjective these things are, and how hard it is to get characters completely right, I'm worried that they won't be able to pull it off again. 

Modifié par EJ107, 21 décembre 2011 - 11:59 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

I don't even like Morrigan..Or Flemeth.

I think they would hurt DA3 more then help it.

[TEWR]

EJ107 wrote...

To be incredibly blunt, I don't want Morrigan back. Her story was ended with the Warden, and to bring her back they would have to make a canon becuase of the very important choices involving her, not to mention the choice of [Spoiler]: killing her

Bioware said prior to DAII's release that Morrigan's story was not over.  And that choice was to try and kill Morrigan, but you can clearly see that she's still alive when she goes through the portal.

She was never killed and Bioware saying that her story is far from over confirms that she lives no matter what. The choice there is just the attempt to kill Morrigan. But the Warden can never confirm he succeeded in killing her as she goes through the Eluvian. The consequence of that should be that she has a different outlook on the Warden that did said action -- perhaps with a different persona.

[ColGali]

Brockololly wrote...

Unless you're reading Flemeth's "Neither is she" line with Yoda inflection, thinking she's saying Morrigan is neither her daughter or her enemy. But thats not how Mulgrew read the line.

You're probably right. Thx!