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[Commander_Adept]

IMO the only interesting Mass 1 LI is Kaidan, so there's no issue with my favorite LI of all, Jack.

Still, I'd romance Ash and Liara just to see Jack kick their asses.

Kaidan v Garrus conflict will be interesting though

[Shinobu]

I played ME2 first, so I retroactively cheated on my ME2 LI when I went back to ME1. My canon Shep is going to leave Kaidan for Garrus, but I've since made Sheps who will exclusively romance Kaidan, Liara and Garrus, respectively.

[Tom80]

Had no LI in ME 1 !
Tali in ME 2 and forever.

[I-AM-KROGAN]

 Well, i have a file where i cheated on Ash with Miranda. And thats most likely what i would do. 

I liked Ashley, i looked over her hate of ailens, but the way she acted on Horizon pissed me off so much. I went with Miranda. 

But my cannon runs for my Male shep he is loyal to Jack, and will always be.

And my Female file is 100 percent loyal to Kaiden. While my 2nd female file is with Thane. 

[desispark]

ME1= Ashley. ME2= Miranda......and yea Miranda all the way.

[Belisarius09]

All of my sheps have stayed true to ash

[feliciano2040]

desispark wrote...

ME1= Ashley. ME2= Miranda......and yea Miranda all the way.

Will never understand why some people like Ashley so much.

[CptData]

feliciano2040 wrote...

desispark wrote...

ME1= Ashley. ME2= Miranda......and yea Miranda all the way.

Will never understand why some people like Ashley so much.

It's all a matter of taste. I can't understand how people can romance Jack - even if she deserves some love, it feels not perfect to me. You need to do a lot of fixing to give Jack a nice future, or that relationship will break at some point.

If you don't like Ash, don't romance her - and if you're not sure if you can like her or not, give her a try. In my eyes her romance arc is the most interesting - it's a matter of taste. Others like Liara more, or Miranda, or, for the other side, Jacob over Kaidan.

[SilvinC]

I have three love triangle playthroughs.

Ashley vs Jack - undecided
Liara vs Tali - The clear winner here is Liara
Kaidan vs Jacob - one of the new same-sex romances in ME3

[feliciano2040]

CptData wrote...

It's all a matter of taste. I can't understand how people can romance Jack - even if she deserves some love, it feels not perfect to me. You need to do a lot of fixing to give Jack a nice future, or that relationship will break at some point.

I wasn't trying to bludgeon Ash fans ! It's just my humble opinion.

Now, about Jack ? I can't understand how people DO NOT romance her, I'm a Miranda fan 100%, but Jack has THE BEST "romantic path" so far in the Mass Effect series, I would be as bold as to say in any RPG, but that'd be stretching too far.

CptData wrote...

If you don't like Ash, don't romance her - and if you're not sure if you can like her or not, give her a try. In my eyes her romance arc is the most interesting - it's a matter of taste. Others like Liara more, or Miranda, or, for the other side, Jacob over Kaidan.

Don't worry, only time I romanced her was just to try, liked her a lot, and as much as it pains me, I always leave Alenko back on Virmire, Ashley is just too much of a great character to be left to die in the first game.

But as a romantic partner ? Too inmature and too emotional for an adult relationship.

Modifié par feliciano2040, 12 décembre 2011 - 02:33 .

[CptData]

Immature? Hmm. We're talking about Ash, right?
Because for a short moment I thought you were talking about Liara / Tali. At least their relationships feel a bit "immature". Not offending Tali or Liara fans here, it's just my PoV and why I'm not romancing them (although I think Tali's romance is really sweet).

And yes, it's just an exchange of opinions.

Speaking of experience, my fiancee is depressive. It can be a real burden. Jack is not depressive, but not in a condition to allow a long lasting relationship. Shepard may be able to fix her, but it's not an easy. Therefore I can't really understand Jack!romance. It feels so incredible wrong to me, since Shepard is her superior. How does she know he's not using his status to use her? She should be more on guard. Poor Jack got far too much baggage on her shoulders, it's hell of a work to get her fixed.

Just in case Jack's fans feel offended now: I don't want to offend you - it's just my opinion.

By the way: it highly depends on taste / opinion what romance path you see as "best". For me it's clearly Ashley's - no other romance comes close to hers. But I accept if someone says "Liara's romance is the best for me" or "I love Miri, therefore her romance is the best". ME allows us to pick the "perfect romance" - with different LI.
And that's good enough to me.

Modifié par CptData, 12 décembre 2011 - 02:44 .

[feliciano2040]

CptData wrote...

Immature? Hmm. We're talking about Ash, right?
Because for a short moment I thought you were talking about Liara / Tali. At least their relationships feel a bit "immature". Not offending Tali or Liara fans here, it's just my PoV and why I'm not romancing them (although I think Tali's romance is really sweet).

Maybe so, but "inexperienced" is probably more accurate for those two, they are very mature individuals, but both share similarities in how their respective dedications have separated them from having any sort of relationships, except with, in this case, male Commander Shepard.

Ashley just..............................needs to grow up, she's a little racist, and her love of family and duty comes before reason, even when faced with hard evidence, unless that has changed in ME 3.

CptData wrote...

Speaking of experience, my fiancee is depressive. It can be a real burden. Jack is not depressive, but not in a condition to allow a long lasting relationship. Shepard may be able to fix her, but it's not an easy. Therefore I can't really understand Jack!romance. It feels so incredible wrong to me, since Shepard is her superior. How does she know he's not using his status to use her? She should be more on guard. Poor Jack got far too much baggage on her shoulders, it's hell of a work to get her fixed.

Shepard was Ashley's superior too you know  ?

About Jack, it's just as Shepard puts it: "How much fun is it going to be on the way?"

There are risks to everything in life, nothing is free, nothing is safe, but we can be prepared for it, Jack might fail as a romantic partner, but I could deal with it, and I hope that she could deal with it as well...........if I had romanced her 

Modifié par feliciano2040, 12 décembre 2011 - 03:20 .

[CptData]

I still say Ash is "reserved" towards aliens. You can maybe say "slightly xenophobic" but definitely no racist, not even a little bit. Racism is worse than xenophobia, if you ask me.

And since this is a talk about different tastes, I stop here.
It doesn't lead to anything than bad blood 

Modifié par CptData, 12 décembre 2011 - 03:32 .

[Thestral]

My main Shep didn't romance anyone in ME1 [ME2 = Garrus]. :]

[olvix]

I've never really liked Kaidan (not as much as Alistar from DAO) but i was loyal... when i was playing ME2 for the first time. He was the only romancable man and Liara was too... feminity for my female Shepard (in ME1). In ME2: Jacob is... not in my type. I like Garrus but he is intresting mosty because he is only romancable alien (ugh, that sounds so cruel :/ ). I miss a fighting funny guy. He would be great for concentrated on rescuing the galaxy hero. : )

I think that one of the best couples would be defaulty male Shepard and not defaulty femal Shepard (or defaulty if you like her. I dont. ).

[Labrev]

CptData wrote...

Speaking of experience, my fiancee is depressive. It can be a real burden. Jack is not depressive, but not in a condition to allow a long lasting relationship. Shepard may be able to fix her, but it's not an easy. Therefore I can't really understand Jack!romance. It feels so incredible wrong to me, since Shepard is her superior. How does she know he's not using his status to use her? She should be more on guard. Poor Jack got far too much baggage on her shoulders, it's hell of a work to get her fixed.

Just in case Jack's fans feel offended now: I don't want to offend you - it's just my opinion.

I get your opinion but here's my take: she can handle it. Contrary to how many view the relationship - I'm not in it to fix/heal her, I actually think she'd be fine without Shepard. In general, I'm not that kind of person to my squad either. I don't offer a shoulder to cry on, I expect them to leave their crap at the airlock and come to work (and have yelled at many of them through ME1 and 2, Jack not withstanding)

In Jack's case, I just got Shepard involved because I like her. That's about it. And I feel two people with mutual love/respect will find a way to make it work, more often than not (this hopeless-romantic encouraged the asari to get back with Charr). And Jack basically lets on that she has feelings for him when she says,"... because I don't need the complication." It's not like she said "I'm not interested." Shepard can call her bluff too (neutral response).

What I like about her romance is that it's built on that trust. If he were just using her, I think he'd have taken the casual-sex option and not something more serious. And sure, Shep still could be using her. That could happen in any relationship though. Can't get hung up on those things. And my Jackmance Shep is not that kind of guy anyways.

[AgitatedLemon]

When I spoke to Kelly, I told her "What we had together is in the past. It's over now".

I seriously hope he meant it. Miranda>Ashley.

[CptData]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

I get your opinion but here's my take: she can handle it. Contrary to how many view the relationship - I'm not in it to fix/heal her, I actually think she'd be fine without Shepard. In general, I'm not that kind of person to my squad either. I don't offer a shoulder to cry on, I expect them to leave their crap at the airlock and come to work (and have yelled at many of them through ME1 and 2, Jack not withstanding)

In Jack's case, I just got Shepard involved because I like her. That's about it. And I feel two people with mutual love/respect will find a way to make it work, more often than not (this hopeless-romantic encouraged the asari to get back with Charr). And Jack basically lets on that she has feelings for him when she says,"... because I don't need the complication." It's not like she said "I'm not interested." Shepard can call her bluff too (neutral response).

What I like about her romance is that it's built on that trust. If he were just using her, I think he'd have taken the casual-sex option and not something more serious. And sure, Shep still could be using her. That could happen in any relationship though. Can't get hung up on those things. And my Jackmance Shep is not that kind of guy anyways.

I accept this.
For my Shepard(s) (=headcanon) Jack is no bleep on the radar: I don't need a partner that loads a huge burden on my shoulders, and that seems to be an issue with Jack. Prove me wrong, but her spoiled past had left some marks on her, not only physical. If Jack can get over it with Shepard's help, then it speaks for the power of their love. But my Shepard(s) (=headcanon) can't do that. He had to see so much sh*t in his life, he saw friends dying, he died, came back, had and has to work for Cerberus, had to go through hell twice - he's broken already.

I don't think any of my Shepards can handle Jack. She needs someone strong enough to help her through nights filled with nightmares. And that's something my headcanon!Shepard can't do.


On the other hand: I read some of the stuff. Must say, each Shepard fits well to the LI s/he wants. Means: a Shepard that picks Jack as LI will be entirely different than one that wants Miranda or Ashley. And I don't need to use any spoiler info here: Shepard tells Miranda what he wants (= come in my bed) while he's far more diplomatic with Ashley. So every Shepard fits perfectly to his or her love interest.

Therefore: I support your opinion as much as I do with mine.

Modifié par CptData, 12 décembre 2011 - 08:06 .

[mythlover20]

Kaiden broke up with Shepard, plain and simple. He said so in the letter that he had started to see someone else. Shepard too, said that what they had was over, so she had no problems leaving him for Garrus (my first playthrough) or Thane (my second). It was most definitely not cheating. Besides, if he is going to treat a woman like the way he did on Horizon, then he had no right to expect that woman to be with him. Ever.

I can't wait to see what the love triangle dialogue is going to be.

[Estelindis]

mythlover20 wrote...

Kaiden broke up with Shepard, plain and simple..

I accept that you can interpret matters however you want, but what may be plain and simple to you is anything but to many others, including myself.  Kaidan thought Shepard was dead.  Death isn't a break-up; a break-up happens between living individuals.  Certainly, death ends relationships in this world, but it's death that ends them, not either of the people in the relationship.  Kaidan's letter said that he reluctantly went for some drinks with a doctor before finding out that Shepard was alive.  How this can be interpreted as him leaving Shepard I don't know.

[Ryzaki]

Estelindis wrote...

mythlover20 wrote...

Kaiden broke up with Shepard, plain and simple..

I
accept that you can interpret matters however you want, but what may be
plain and simple to you is anything but to many others, including
myself.  Kaidan thought Shepard was dead.  Death isn't a break-up; a
break-up happens between living individuals.  Certainly, death ends
relationships in this world, but it's death that ends them, not
either of the people in the relationship.  Kaidan's letter said that he
reluctantly went for some drinks with a doctor before finding out that Shepard was alive.  How this can be interpreted as him leaving Shepard I don't know.

Same.
Death = relationship ender (to me anyway). They haven't gotten back
together yet. Neither of them moving on constitues as cheating because
they're not currently in a relationship.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 12 décembre 2011 - 10:00 .

[Kyda]

 LOL...  I just found out about Kaidan´s date because in the spanish translation of the email after Horizon he said "his friends talked him into going to the doctor because of his drinking problems"... hahahaha... and I even felt sorry for him...  

I really need to go back and read that again... I wonder if I got it right