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[TEWR]

Admittedly, it's hard to judge the height of a character in a video game.

But as I just placed Merrill next to Hawke, she is 3-4 inches shorter than Hawke tops.

[Fast Jimmy]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Admittedly, it's hard to judge the height of a character in a video game.

But as I just placed Merrill next to Hawke, she is 3-4 inches shorter than Hawke tops.

Regardless, whether I'm right or not, having what appears to be a foot and a half from your shoulders to the top of your head for an average sized, otherwise normally-proportioned female is a little jarring.

[Sabariel]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

I always took Fenris's posture to be something akin to a loosely coiled snake. He's ready to spring into an attack stance or strike should the need arise. I don't recall any other elf who stood in this fashion - it seems to be something related to his character.

The elves don't appear sickly to me. They look different from humans, though humanoid in body structure. I suppose I still wonder why elves *need* to look beautiful and/or "normal" - whatever "normal" is. They're non-human creatures, and since this is the DA-verse, they don't necessarily have to correlate to any other universe's established model for an elf.

I always thought Fenris' posture made him look a bit bowlegged and constipated

And, for some reason, most of the male elves stand like that.

Modifié par Sabariel, 16 décembre 2011 - 07:16 .

[alex90c]

Abispa wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Sorry, nope. Just a human with pointy ears, not good enough.

I like my elves looking like anorexic aliens thank you very much.

I agree with that (though the "new Elves" could use a few pounds). As for the pictures, not only is she "too human" looking, but she apparently lost a fight with an opponent wielding a stapler.

I was being sarcastic. I hate the new elves.

[Bayz]

I choose DA2, but it is neither actually. I would love them to look even less human, DA2 elves looked like Na'vi, which while progress compared with the pointy eared humans of origins, still were too human to me.

My perfect elves would look actually more like D&D's new concept for the Tiefling or even a human skinned Draenei, without tentacles but horns. obviously that would conflict with how alien the Qunari look but hey.

Note that I would love Dwarves to look also different from short humans as well...

Modifié par Bayz, 16 décembre 2011 - 01:06 .

[happy_daiz]

The main elves were OK (Fenris, Merrill), but the rest were really...strange. I'd have to say, I actually prefer the Falmer in Skyrim. Strange how similar they look.





Maybe it's just an Elf thing.

But alas, I didn't mean to derail.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 16 décembre 2011 - 04:48 .

[Jerrybnsn]

Has anyone noticed that we have a DA2 elf expression?

[Wulfram]

Elf?

[Bayz]

I'm surprised, I actually expected even more of "bad DA2 I cannot ****** to this ><" butthurt in this thread, still some quite sensible responses...

You are doing it all wrong internet...

[ShadyKat]

The new look is okay, I just think that the dated graphics engine makes them look bad.

[Crimson_Crio]

I want elves to be.... elves. Humans but much more beautiful and wise. I understand what happened to them and what is their status, but they don't have to be ugly. And for crying out laud, for a fantasy game why is the majority of my party still humans? I wanna badass elf lady as an companion in the next game.

[alex90c]

badass =/= scantily clad

[MassStorm]

Actually i do not get why they are forcing us on playing human...i pick fantasy games to be what i cannot be in the reality....and then i got DA2....another human....really??? Give me back my elf protagonist like DAO...

[Atakuma]

MassStorm wrote...

Actually i do not get why they are forcing us on playing human...i pick fantasy games to be what i cannot be in the reality....and then i got DA2....another human....really??? Give me back my elf protagonist like DAO...

The large majority of people played a human in Origins, so to Bioware it's not worth spending resources on multiple races that only a small percentage will play.

[brightblueink]

Atakuma wrote...

MassStorm wrote...

Actually i do not get why they are forcing us on playing human...i pick fantasy games to be what i cannot be in the reality....and then i got DA2....another human....really??? Give me back my elf protagonist like DAO...

The large majority of people played a human in Origins, so to Bioware it's not worth spending resources on multiple races that only a small percentage will play.

Man, that makes me so sad, even if I can understand the logic behind it. I adored my City Elf, and my brother LOVES dwarves so I think he played a Dwarven Noble like...3 or 4 times in that game. It was really fun to explore the other cultures in Thedas.

[FaWa]

How can ANYONE vote for DA2 after this monstrosity:

[TEWR]

Zevran just needs some eyebrows and some tanner skin and he'll be fine. IMO he didn't look as bad as people made him out to be.

[FaWa]

Are we looking at the same Zevran?

[TEWR]

Is your Zevran doing the Mexican Hat dance alongside a bunch of monkeys, while basking in the magnificent aura of the full moon?

Because if not, we are sadly looking at two different Zevrans. =P

[Rawgrim]

I am with FaWa all the way.

[WaPuS]

Well I personally like the Elves of Dragon Age II. They are distinctive, but still HUMANOID! ( key word there "HUMAN"oid) However in the interest of this thread I will humor everybody with a minor change in appearance, nothing major. If you're going to change the elves to make them more "distinctive", then change the skin colors, like WoW or Elder Scrolls. I'm thinking about the night elves of WoW or even the colors of the Asari from Mass Effect.

All of this is moot though, to make these BIG changes you'll have to explain the changes between the two different looks, like you did with the Qunari companion from DA:O.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Morroian wrote...

MassStorm wrote...

You seems to have trouble accepting that someone is superior to humans...in reality you will discover that even in DA dalish elves are morally superior to humans which are corrupts and evil.....god how much i miss my past Elven adventures in DAO killing every human i can.

Why should elves be superior to humans? Why should any race be superior to any other? Being perfect is boring. There is nothing saying elves in a fantasy series HAVE to be an idealised humanity.

"Superior" in one mor more trait DOES NOT EQUAL perfect.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 19 décembre 2011 - 07:49 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

Serpieri Nei wrote...

HowlHowl wrote...

Serpieri Nei wrote...

HowlHowl wrote...

Serpieri Nei wrote...

Humans are cliche as well - can we make them with very big heads and inverted chests?

Humans in fantasy are based on actual beings. What do they call those again?

Elves aren't. And therefor cliches are less easily excused because there is no actual point of departure outside of Tolkien lore.

Fantasy is Fantasy.

If you want to limit your imagination and not include humans because they exhist somewhere simply defeats fiction.

and I'd take a nother look at elves theres a lot of variations - heck even ones that have blue fur.

I'm not saying you shouldn't mess with humans in some way, I'm just saying they aren't "cliche" in Fantasy stories because something that actually exists a certain way in reality isn't "cliche". That's like saying having round planets in your story is cliche.

Human's are just as cliche when it comes to fantasy - hence why people play something other then a human.

The misuse of the word cliche is runing wild in this thread.

People, you're overusing the word. If you don t'know what the word really means or when it should be applied, do not use it.

[ReiSilver]

I liked the distinctive noses on the DA2 elves but they went too far, especially with the female body models where the necks are far too long and thin to look like they could physically support their heads and they have almost nonexistant shoulders
Fenris apparently had a unique body model which is why he doesn't look as odd as some of the other Models and Merrill's scarf and shoulder fur hides the odd look of the female elf body, too bad that's moot when she's in underwear or that silver armor.

I'd like to see the bodies and eye size scaled back a bit. I thought the Elf Update Mod by tmp7704 for DA:O actually hit the perfect balance:


The blue is DA:O's elves, the grey is DA2 and the white is the mod
Now if only I could mod DA2 with this...

[Lotion Soronarr]

WaPuS wrote...

Well I personally like the Elves of Dragon Age II. They are distinctive, but still HUMANOID! ( key word there "HUMAN"oid) However in the interest of this thread I will humor everybody with a minor change in appearance, nothing major. If you're going to change the elves to make them more "distinctive", then change the skin colors, like WoW or Elder Scrolls. I'm thinking about the night elves of WoW or even the colors of the Asari from Mass Effect.

All of this is moot though, to make these BIG changes you'll have to explain the changes between the two different looks, like you did with the Qunari companion from DA:O.

Color change is the worst type of "destinct" one can make...

Really, do elves HAVE to be visually different than other fantasy elves?