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[Mayo98577]

I'm sorry bioware, I'm not going to spend $60 for a new game and then have to pay MORE to get all the in game content.

[Trelow-LMG]

I will. /muah

[Domi-kuin]

Then don't. No one else cares what you think sadly. This is how next-gen gaming is, it's increasing games playability by bringing out ways to expand gameplay.



If you don't like it, fair enough but no-one cares, sorry.

[Inarai]

It's EXTRA stuff. If they are going to do EXTRA work, and spend EXTRA money to make this EXTRA stuff, it's quite reasonable that they ask the be paid for it. It is not, in fact, a part of what you were paying for with that 60$, but it is something you can add to it.

[cheeseslayersmu]

The game comes with all the in-game content. DLC is even more content.



I think of DLC as giving a tip to Bioware, because that's what it is. They give us a huge amount of content for $60, and we then give them 5-15 dollars for a small amount of content.



The end result is a lot of content for around 80 dollars.

[Georg Zoeller]

Then don't. Nobody forces you to buy the additional content.

Mayo98577 wrote...

I'm sorry bioware, I'm not going to spend $60 for a new game and then have to pay MORE to get all the in game content.

Modifié par Georg Zoeller, 23 novembre 2009 - 03:36 .

[Durallan]

simple answer to OP, then don't, nobody putting a gun to you head, I don't like it either, but this is the way of things.

[Sloth Of Doom]

Ohh another DLC whinefest thread. i propose a new forum section titled 'Whining about DLC but nobody cares'

[Krathax]

Really? Another DLC post, good lord *snore*

[Wordigan_Czartchonn]

I must admit that for a game what's been worked on for so long 60 dollars is cheap in my book. I'd gladly have paid twice that to get a good RPG =)

Modifié par Wordigan_Czartchonn, 23 novembre 2009 - 03:40 .

[LaztRezort]

I know just have you feel. Just earlier today I ordered a Double Greaseburger meal from Burger Hut, and they wanted to charge me extra to add on a Chocolate Sloppy Shake!

And then, after buying gas at a local gas station, the guy behind the counter had the nerve to charge me money for a pack of Blacktar Cigarettes!

Back in the good old days, everything extra used to be free.

[SeanMurphy2]

At least it gives you the choice whether to buy more content.



I remember finishing KOTOR and feeling sad there would be no new content. I would have been happy to buy more quests, stories and locations to expand the game.

[Recycled Human]

I love dlc, it's an extra insight into the creative minds that developed the world you spend countless hours playing in. Like the one guy said, a tip for a great game with the trade off of handing the player something extra to challenge their character. Hopefully, maybe even gain some insight to those unanswered questions.



Honestly, I don't get this complaint...

[Inarai]

Sloth Of Doom wrote...

Ohh another DLC whinefest thread. i propose a new forum section titled 'Whining about DLC but nobody cares'

Seconded.

[Wickedjelly]

I'm not sure what's worse.  Posting the same topic over and over to the point you feel the need to make a separate account

Or using the beaten, trampled, steamrolled to death food analogy for the billionth time

[mcneil_1]

Good grief another DLC complaint thread

[BioReaperEA]

cheeseslayersmu wrote...

The game comes with all the in-game content. DLC is even more content.

I think of DLC as giving a tip to Bioware, because that's what it is. They give us a huge amount of content for $60, and we then give them 5-15 dollars for a small amount of content.

The end result is a lot of content for around 80 dollars.

I think what people are asking is; this "extra" content came out the same time as the game not months or years later, so why wasn't included in the game? And if I don't want to buy the dlc that's fine, then don't put empty acheivement slots in for the dlc I never bought and then advertise to me in camp with a new quest.

I paid $75 for my edition and as for a tip, how about fixing all the damn bugs in the game first and then work on dlc stuff.

[Georg Zoeller]

rest assured that that kind of approach would be ineffective

A) Because the only way to vote against DLC is not to buy it. But while enough people are buying it (aka consumer demand exists), even that doesn't really work. As long as reasonable demand for a product exists, we would be irresponsible to just ignore it.

BioWare people can see the who is making posts from the same address, so going through the effort of making additional accounts isn't really all that effective. I mean, sure, one could go through a dozen proxies to obfuscate that, but given the general low impact generic 'I hate this' posts on forums have, it'd be costing someone a lot of time and just cause us amusements in our team meetings ("hey, that italian guy who created 27 accounts? Kids these days have too much time on their hands")

As for patches vs. DLC. The core DA team is working on patches. They are free. They take time, because they have to run through QA. There is a different team, the DLC team, that works on downloadable content. These resources don't conflict with each other (and besides, on thing that never speeds up software development is throwing more people at a problem), because the patch team is mostly engineers while the DLC team is mostly content creators - and if you look at the credits, you get a rough idea how many people BioWare has available to dedicate to either of this.

What the patch team is doing is called 'live support' and it has always been free and will always be free (unless the industry moves to a universal subscription model, not terribly likely).

What the DLC team is doing is creating new content, and as such, we expect to be paid for it, because a team of several dozen people is pretty damn expensive over time.

Wickedjelly wrote...

I'm not sure what's worse.  Posting the same topic over and over to the point you feel the need to make a separate account

Or using the beaten, trampled, steamrolled to death food analogy for the billionth time

Modifié par Georg Zoeller, 23 novembre 2009 - 03:55 .

[JKoopman]

I haven't seen this so far with Dragon Age, but it is a fair bit irritating (and rightly so I think) when you see that a new DLC has been released for a game weeks or months after launch, you shell out the $5-10 to download it and see that it's only a 10kb file that unlocks content already included with the disc. If the devs had time to finish it before the disc shipped then it should be part of the core game imo, not "additional content".

[Inarai]

BioReaperEA wrote...

cheeseslayersmu wrote...

The game comes with all the in-game content. DLC is even more content.

I think of DLC as giving a tip to Bioware, because that's what it is. They give us a huge amount of content for $60, and we then give them 5-15 dollars for a small amount of content.

The end result is a lot of content for around 80 dollars.

I think what people are asking is; this "extra" content came out the same time as the game not months or years later, so why wasn't included in the game? And if I don't want to buy the dlc that's fine, then don't put empty acheivement slots in for the dlc I never bought and then advertise to me in camp with a new quest.

I paid $75 for my edition and as for a tip, how about fixing all the damn bugs in the game first and then work on dlc stuff.

Because it was ready then.  In this case, I think some pre-orders and the digital deluxe editions get it for free, meaning it HAD to be ready then.

But just because the DLC team gets it out for launch does not mean it was originally part of the game and removed, nor does it follow that it should be free.  It's still EXTRA work and content above and beyond the game itself.

[LaztRezort]

Wickedjelly wrote...

I'm not sure what's worse.  Posting the same topic over and over to the point you feel the need to make a separate account

Or using the beaten, trampled, steamrolled to death food analogy for the billionth time

My opinion is that both are equally distasteful...
Like boiled headcheese cake, or rotten tunafish salad...

[Mistersunshine]

I'll buy as much DLC as you can possibly put out, pay any price for it that you feel is reasonable, and I'll do it on the day it's released with no questions asked.



And I don't think I'm alone.

[Melchiah109]

Christ on a ******, do we really need ANOTHER of these threads?

[Georg Zoeller]

All DLC content for Dragon Age is downloaded fully from our servers. In fact, that was kind of the point for the 'stone prisoner', which we give free to everyone buying a new copy of our game - because we could not fit it on the disks anymore as it was finished after the main game was finalized.

JKoopman wrote...

I haven't seen this so far with Dragon Age, but it is a fair bit irritating (and rightly so I think) when you see that a new DLC has been released for a game weeks or months after launch, you shell out the $5-10 to download it and see that it's only a 10kb file that unlocks content already included with the disc. If the devs had time to finish it before the disc shipped then it should be part of the core game imo, not "additional content".

[Joe Ronimo]

BioWare should have charged $120 for the game up front. You're getting 5 times or more the amount of content and replayability you get in most games, so you should be glad you got it for $60 and just buy the DLC with a smile.