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What the hell was with the cupcakes?

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Nice to see that Bastion got some props. I really enjoyed that one. Also, how cute is Felicia Day? She's great.

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Zu Long wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Zu Long wrote...

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Skyrim isn't exactly Xenogears, yeah. Nor Mass Effect for that matter.



Except for Feng vs Shepard, in which case you are correct, I would say Mass Effect actually rates pretty well with the character development when you compare between the party characters.


You mean Fei, right? (Just trying to make sure I understand what you're saying.)

Either way, yeah. I didn't really mean it like I was putting Xenogears on a pedastal so much higher than Mass Effect. I was just bringing up two separate approaches to character development from two very different games I happen to love -- two games Skyrim really can't compare with in that regard.

Of course, Skyrim has its own strengths. Great strengths.


Fei, right. Why what did I say? :P

But yeah, like I said, it has it's great qualities. Just not character development.


See, for a split second I was like "did they mean Kai Leng? Wait, no, if they did I don't want to know! Don't make them spoil whatever it is they know! Aah!"

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Well Portal 2 was outstanding. *salute*

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Zu Long wrote...

What the hell was with the cupcakes?


Spike TV.

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Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.

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JeffZero wrote...

Zu Long wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Zu Long wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Skyrim isn't exactly Xenogears, yeah. Nor Mass Effect for that matter.



Except for Feng vs Shepard, in which case you are correct, I would say Mass Effect actually rates pretty well with the character development when you compare between the party characters.


You mean Fei, right? (Just trying to make sure I understand what you're saying.)

Either way, yeah. I didn't really mean it like I was putting Xenogears on a pedastal so much higher than Mass Effect. I was just bringing up two separate approaches to character development from two very different games I happen to love -- two games Skyrim really can't compare with in that regard.

Of course, Skyrim has its own strengths. Great strengths.


Fei, right. Why what did I say? :P

But yeah, like I said, it has it's great qualities. Just not character development.


See, for a split second I was like "did they mean Kai Leng? Wait, no, if they did I don't want to know! Don't make them spoil whatever it is they know! Aah!"


I have studiously stayed away from the spoiler scripts, so I know nothing.

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The stream is bad from my macbook. Not to impressed with the new trailer, it seemed almost too fast?

Fellow macbook user? You're cool in my book.

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I'm with Jeff here, Skyrim is a GREAT game but guys don't kid yourselves it's VERY weak regarding to characters, the day Bethesda hires good writers and embraces cinematics we'll compare their games to XG and ME.

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JeffZero wrote...

Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.


I should really get around to playing 3 and 4 some time. No gonna lie though, Kojima kind of lost me with MGS2.

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Zu Long wrote...
I have studiously stayed away from the spoiler scripts, so I know nothing.


Good, me too. In fact, I've been staying away from BSN in general but for a few posts a week lately. I'm sure my will will mostly shatter around the end of January or so, but I'll still try to avoid spoilers even then.

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Zu Long wrote...

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Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.


I should really get around to playing 3 and 4 some time. No gonna lie though, Kojima kind of lost me with MGS2.


That one's pretty love-it-or-hate it. The story arcs pay off pretty well by the end of 4, but I really couldn't stand Rose. On replays I tend to skip her dialogue... and she's the only video game character I'll do that for. I only tend to play games over again that I enjoyed the stories/characters for, so that's saying something that I'd withstand skipping most of her lines just to replay the whole series.

Kojima is freaking crazy though; I can't blame you for losing it after the first 3D game in the series. MGS1 was much simpler and probably better for it. 2's the weak link in that chain.

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JeffZero wrote...

Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.

The trailer has been up for ages on other websites. It looks... dissapointing.

Also, my stream stopped working - who won GotY? Or has it not been announced?

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Candidate 88766 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.

The trailer has been up for ages on other websites. It looks... dissapointing.

Also, my stream stopped working - who won GotY? Or has it not been announced?


Has it been? By ages you mean hours or minutes, right? Internet ages, heh.

Still hasn't been announced, I think.

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JeffZero wrote...

Zu Long wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.


I should really get around to playing 3 and 4 some time. No gonna lie though, Kojima kind of lost me with MGS2.


That one's pretty love-it-or-hate it. The story arcs pay off pretty well by the end of 4, but I really couldn't stand Rose. On replays I tend to skip her dialogue... and she's the only video game character I'll do that for. I only tend to play games over again that I enjoyed the stories/characters for, so that's saying something that I'd withstand skipping most of her lines just to replay the whole series.

Kojima is freaking crazy though; I can't blame you for losing it after the first 3D game in the series. MGS1 was much simpler and probably better for it. 2's the weak link in that chain.


It wasn't the gameplay it was the story. 2 was such an anticlimax. I felt like I'd played the whole game for no reason. That and I hated Raiden's pretty boy guts.

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Candidate 88766 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.

The trailer has been up for ages on other websites. It looks... dissapointing.

Also, my stream stopped working - who won GotY? Or has it not been announced?


Oh, ugh, uh, er, I just read the leak. Platinum Games is handling it. So that was a true rumor after all.

Ugh, I really don't like their work.

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Zu Long wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Zu Long wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.


I should really get around to playing 3 and 4 some time. No gonna lie though, Kojima kind of lost me with MGS2.


That one's pretty love-it-or-hate it. The story arcs pay off pretty well by the end of 4, but I really couldn't stand Rose. On replays I tend to skip her dialogue... and she's the only video game character I'll do that for. I only tend to play games over again that I enjoyed the stories/characters for, so that's saying something that I'd withstand skipping most of her lines just to replay the whole series.

Kojima is freaking crazy though; I can't blame you for losing it after the first 3D game in the series. MGS1 was much simpler and probably better for it. 2's the weak link in that chain.


It wasn't the gameplay it was the story. 2 was such an anticlimax. I felt like I'd played the whole game for no reason. That and I hated Raiden's pretty boy guts.


Yeah, the gameplay was fine. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. Rose was a story-related concern.

I didn't really dislike the rest of it though, so /shrug.

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ok call me a noob. what is BSN?

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This bit with the guy cursing stopped being funny about 10 minutes ago. And it's only been going for 5 minutes!

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witchee2woman wrote...

ok call me a noob. what is BSN?

Bioware Social Network.

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JeffZero wrote...

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JeffZero wrote...

Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.

The trailer has been up for ages on other websites. It looks... dissapointing.

Also, my stream stopped working - who won GotY? Or has it not been announced?


Has it been? By ages you mean hours or minutes, right? Internet ages, heh.

Still hasn't been announced, I think.

Couple of hours I think.

The trailers called revengeance. Its up on IGN I think, unless its been pulled down.

Looks much more arcadey than the previous games.

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ok call me a noob. what is BSN?


Scroll up and look at the three words at the top of the web page.

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What in the hell was going on with that angry dude?

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wow i feel really dumb now

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Candidate 88766 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Candidate 88766 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.

The trailer has been up for ages on other websites. It looks... dissapointing.

Also, my stream stopped working - who won GotY? Or has it not been announced?


Has it been? By ages you mean hours or minutes, right? Internet ages, heh.

Still hasn't been announced, I think.

Couple of hours I think.

The trailers called revengeance. Its up on IGN I think, unless its been pulled down.

Looks much more arcadey than the previous games.


Yeah, and Kojima Productions isn't even helming it. They actually went and gave it to Platinum Games, who I know has a huge following but I mainly play games with decent stories and they're so over-the-top they ought to be making even Kojima himself blush.

I think Hideo's my limit in that category.