VGA STREAM 2011 link for people that are region restricted + mass effect 3 trailer and discussion
#201
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:07
#202
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:08
#203
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:08
Zu Long wrote...
JeffZero wrote...
Zu Long wrote...
JeffZero wrote...
Skyrim isn't exactly Xenogears, yeah. Nor Mass Effect for that matter.
Except for Feng vs Shepard, in which case you are correct, I would say Mass Effect actually rates pretty well with the character development when you compare between the party characters.
You mean Fei, right? (Just trying to make sure I understand what you're saying.)
Either way, yeah. I didn't really mean it like I was putting Xenogears on a pedastal so much higher than Mass Effect. I was just bringing up two separate approaches to character development from two very different games I happen to love -- two games Skyrim really can't compare with in that regard.
Of course, Skyrim has its own strengths. Great strengths.
Fei, right. Why what did I say?
But yeah, like I said, it has it's great qualities. Just not character development.
See, for a split second I was like "did they mean Kai Leng? Wait, no, if they did I don't want to know! Don't make them spoil whatever it is they know! Aah!"
#204
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:08
#205
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:08
Zu Long wrote...
What the hell was with the cupcakes?
Spike TV.
#206
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:09
#207
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:09
JeffZero wrote...
Zu Long wrote...
JeffZero wrote...
Zu Long wrote...
JeffZero wrote...
Skyrim isn't exactly Xenogears, yeah. Nor Mass Effect for that matter.
Except for Feng vs Shepard, in which case you are correct, I would say Mass Effect actually rates pretty well with the character development when you compare between the party characters.
You mean Fei, right? (Just trying to make sure I understand what you're saying.)
Either way, yeah. I didn't really mean it like I was putting Xenogears on a pedastal so much higher than Mass Effect. I was just bringing up two separate approaches to character development from two very different games I happen to love -- two games Skyrim really can't compare with in that regard.
Of course, Skyrim has its own strengths. Great strengths.
Fei, right. Why what did I say?
But yeah, like I said, it has it's great qualities. Just not character development.
See, for a split second I was like "did they mean Kai Leng? Wait, no, if they did I don't want to know! Don't make them spoil whatever it is they know! Aah!"
I have studiously stayed away from the spoiler scripts, so I know nothing.
#208
Guest_Catch This Fade_*
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:10
Guest_Catch This Fade_*
Fellow macbook user? You're cool in my book.Yuqi wrote...
The stream is bad from my macbook. Not to impressed with the new trailer, it seemed almost too fast?
#209
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:11
#210
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:11
JeffZero wrote...
Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.
I should really get around to playing 3 and 4 some time. No gonna lie though, Kojima kind of lost me with MGS2.
#211
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:11
Zu Long wrote...
I have studiously stayed away from the spoiler scripts, so I know nothing.
Good, me too. In fact, I've been staying away from BSN in general but for a few posts a week lately. I'm sure my will will mostly shatter around the end of January or so, but I'll still try to avoid spoilers even then.
#212
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:13
Zu Long wrote...
JeffZero wrote...
Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.
I should really get around to playing 3 and 4 some time. No gonna lie though, Kojima kind of lost me with MGS2.
That one's pretty love-it-or-hate it. The story arcs pay off pretty well by the end of 4, but I really couldn't stand Rose. On replays I tend to skip her dialogue... and she's the only video game character I'll do that for. I only tend to play games over again that I enjoyed the stories/characters for, so that's saying something that I'd withstand skipping most of her lines just to replay the whole series.
Kojima is freaking crazy though; I can't blame you for losing it after the first 3D game in the series. MGS1 was much simpler and probably better for it. 2's the weak link in that chain.
#213
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:13
The trailer has been up for ages on other websites. It looks... dissapointing.JeffZero wrote...
Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.
Also, my stream stopped working - who won GotY? Or has it not been announced?
#214
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:15
Candidate 88766 wrote...
The trailer has been up for ages on other websites. It looks... dissapointing.JeffZero wrote...
Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.
Also, my stream stopped working - who won GotY? Or has it not been announced?
Has it been? By ages you mean hours or minutes, right? Internet ages, heh.
Still hasn't been announced, I think.
#215
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:17
JeffZero wrote...
Zu Long wrote...
JeffZero wrote...
Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.
I should really get around to playing 3 and 4 some time. No gonna lie though, Kojima kind of lost me with MGS2.
That one's pretty love-it-or-hate it. The story arcs pay off pretty well by the end of 4, but I really couldn't stand Rose. On replays I tend to skip her dialogue... and she's the only video game character I'll do that for. I only tend to play games over again that I enjoyed the stories/characters for, so that's saying something that I'd withstand skipping most of her lines just to replay the whole series.
Kojima is freaking crazy though; I can't blame you for losing it after the first 3D game in the series. MGS1 was much simpler and probably better for it. 2's the weak link in that chain.
It wasn't the gameplay it was the story. 2 was such an anticlimax. I felt like I'd played the whole game for no reason. That and I hated Raiden's pretty boy guts.
#216
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:17
Candidate 88766 wrote...
The trailer has been up for ages on other websites. It looks... dissapointing.JeffZero wrote...
Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.
Also, my stream stopped working - who won GotY? Or has it not been announced?
Oh, ugh, uh, er, I just read the leak. Platinum Games is handling it. So that was a true rumor after all.
Ugh, I really don't like their work.
#217
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:18
Zu Long wrote...
JeffZero wrote...
Zu Long wrote...
JeffZero wrote...
Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.
I should really get around to playing 3 and 4 some time. No gonna lie though, Kojima kind of lost me with MGS2.
That one's pretty love-it-or-hate it. The story arcs pay off pretty well by the end of 4, but I really couldn't stand Rose. On replays I tend to skip her dialogue... and she's the only video game character I'll do that for. I only tend to play games over again that I enjoyed the stories/characters for, so that's saying something that I'd withstand skipping most of her lines just to replay the whole series.
Kojima is freaking crazy though; I can't blame you for losing it after the first 3D game in the series. MGS1 was much simpler and probably better for it. 2's the weak link in that chain.
It wasn't the gameplay it was the story. 2 was such an anticlimax. I felt like I'd played the whole game for no reason. That and I hated Raiden's pretty boy guts.
Yeah, the gameplay was fine. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. Rose was a story-related concern.
I didn't really dislike the rest of it though, so /shrug.
#218
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:20
#219
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:20
#220
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:21
Bioware Social Network.witchee2woman wrote...
ok call me a noob. what is BSN?
#221
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:21
Couple of hours I think.JeffZero wrote...
Candidate 88766 wrote...
The trailer has been up for ages on other websites. It looks... dissapointing.JeffZero wrote...
Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.
Also, my stream stopped working - who won GotY? Or has it not been announced?
Has it been? By ages you mean hours or minutes, right? Internet ages, heh.
Still hasn't been announced, I think.
The trailers called revengeance. Its up on IGN I think, unless its been pulled down.
Looks much more arcadey than the previous games.
#222
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:21
witchee2woman wrote...
ok call me a noob. what is BSN?
Scroll up and look at the three words at the top of the web page.
#223
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:22
#224
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:23
#225
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 02:23
Candidate 88766 wrote...
Couple of hours I think.JeffZero wrote...
Candidate 88766 wrote...
The trailer has been up for ages on other websites. It looks... dissapointing.JeffZero wrote...
Argh, hurry up with the "Kojima reveals the truth behind Metal Gear Solid Rising". I know I'm likely the only person on this board who cares, but I care so much more than any of the rest of this.
Also, my stream stopped working - who won GotY? Or has it not been announced?
Has it been? By ages you mean hours or minutes, right? Internet ages, heh.
Still hasn't been announced, I think.
The trailers called revengeance. Its up on IGN I think, unless its been pulled down.
Looks much more arcadey than the previous games.
Yeah, and Kojima Productions isn't even helming it. They actually went and gave it to Platinum Games, who I know has a huge following but I mainly play games with decent stories and they're so over-the-top they ought to be making even Kojima himself blush.
I think Hideo's my limit in that category.




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