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[Jaron Oberyn]

Well said.

sympathyforsaren wrote...

What I'm saying is that not only are they imo destroying the series with appealing to them, as Mass Effect 3 looks plain bad imo (very linear, lots of shooting, no inventory, questionable and weak writing, generic characters, decharacterization of the Reapers, overused Earth-centric plot), they are also wasting their time if they think this new direction will generate the dreamy profits they dream of. If anything,cit has been reaffirmed statistically that when you make a genuine roleplaying game without compromises, it can have extraordinary sales. Maybe the suits and ties at EA should (and they will) take heed.

Back on topic, this trailer continued to reaffirm my assessment and opinion of Mass Effect 3. How my favorite franchise in all of gaming has turned into this is saddening and frustrating, and we only have the aspirations to be a CoD/Gears of War to thank. This game doesn't look good at all. The animations look brutally bad, and people need to question how much will be changed now so close to launch. It is obvious that BioWare thinks it has the established fanbase in the bank as far as purchasing this game, and implies they have zero respect for the fans who helped establish this series while neglecting and ignoring their core base when plenty of concern and warning has been given to them, at their own peril.

What ever happened to Mass Effect? That is my question, echoing the sentiment expressed by other fans on this specific thread. What in the heck ever happened to Mass Effect? Because this doesn't look like a good game at all. It looks exactly like the Michael Bay, cheesy and shoot-tacular, mindnumbingly boring shooters I do my best to avoid.

Modifié par PoliteAssasin, 12 décembre 2011 - 05:26 .

[Vapaa]

KingDan97 wrote...

N7 is what I meant by Special Ops, I just meant to drive the point further by making it clear that Shepard would've started with extensive real combat knowledge due to his rank.

Yes, I was just saying it because "N7" directly mention the level of experience, where the rank is a more abstract thing - to me at least.

Modifié par Vapaä, 12 décembre 2011 - 05:30 .

[Someone With Mass]

To those who says that ME3 contains a lot of shooting: *ahem* WHAT THE **** DID YOU EXPECT?

Mass Effect has always contained a lot of shooting and nobody's trying to hide that fact.

Oh, and keep your elitist crap about how much of a snob you are to yourself. The world will manage just fine without it.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 12 décembre 2011 - 05:39 .

[KingDan97]

Vapaä wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

N7 is what I meant by Special Ops, I just meant to drive the point further by making it clear that Shepard would've started with extensive real combat knowledge due to his rank.

Yes, I was just saying it because "N7" directly mention the level of experience, where the rank is a more abstract thing - to me at least.

Fair enough, just noting that I meant to have covered the N7.

[evilmunky80]

I was underwhelmed. Really expected better, however it hasn't dampened my enthusiasim for the game.

[ForteSJGR]

KingDan97 wrote...
At the very least we know EDI can make as many replicas of any weapon as you need, so loot is still moot(at least in ME2/3)

Nobody wants to actually see the manufacturing process do they?  Some things are just bound to happen off-screen due to the writers not wanting to get bogged down in over-explaning things.  One example of how that way of working though?  Shepard's revival in ME2's opener.  If you were just revived without ANY explanation at all not only would Bioware missed a great narration opportunity but would most likely have irked some fans.
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Anywho I can't wait to see that tower more in-depth.  

[Ghost-621]

PoliteAssasin wrote...


Well said.

sympathyforsaren wrote...

What I'm saying is that not only are they imo destroying the series with appealing to them, as Mass Effect 3 looks plain bad imo (very linear, lots of shooting, no inventory, questionable and weak writing, generic characters, decharacterization of the Reapers, overused Earth-centric plot), they are also wasting their time if they think this new direction will generate the dreamy profits they dream of. If anything,cit has been reaffirmed statistically that when you make a genuine roleplaying game without compromises, it can have extraordinary sales. Maybe the suits and ties at EA should (and they will) take heed.

Back on topic, this trailer continued to reaffirm my assessment and opinion of Mass Effect 3. How my favorite franchise in all of gaming has turned into this is saddening and frustrating, and we only have the aspirations to be a CoD/Gears of War to thank. This game doesn't look good at all. The animations look brutally bad, and people need to question how much will be changed now so close to launch. It is obvious that BioWare thinks it has the established fanbase in the bank as far as purchasing this game, and implies they have zero respect for the fans who helped establish this series while neglecting and ignoring their core base when plenty of concern and warning has been given to them, at their own peril.

What ever happened to Mass Effect? That is my question, echoing the sentiment expressed by other fans on this specific thread. What in the heck ever happened to Mass Effect? Because this doesn't look like a good game at all. It looks exactly like the Michael Bay, cheesy and shoot-tacular, mindnumbingly boring shooters I do my best to avoid.

This. A million times this. By the way, Something With Mass, posts like these aren't "elitist" nor "snobbish."

And you call my arguments weak. Go ahead, rage. I know you're going to.

[Vertrucio]

What happened to Mass Effect is that Mass Effect 3 isn't out yet.

[Someone With Mass]

Ghost-621 wrote...

This. A million times this. By the way, Something With Mass, posts like these aren't "elitist" nor "snobbish."

And you call my arguments weak. Go ahead, rage. I know you're going to.

Why should I?

Because you're taking everything you see at face value without spending a second thought to wonder about the nature of the information and trailers?

Why would I rage at that?

It's something I'd laugh at.

[Ghost-621]

Vertrucio wrote...

What happened to Mass Effect is that Mass Effect 3 isn't out yet.

That is a great argument you have there. 

Everyone, listen to what Casey Hudson, I mean Bioware, Vertrucio has to say! If you have an eye for detail or have taken the slightest notice to the change in lore and direction of Mass Effect, just forget about it! Don't worry! Though everything shown screams "clone" don't worry! 

[Jaron Oberyn]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

This. A million times this. By the way, Something With Mass, posts like these aren't "elitist" nor "snobbish."

And you call my arguments weak. Go ahead, rage. I know you're going to.

Why should I?

Because you're taking everything you see at face value without spending a second thought to wonder about the nature of the information and trailers?

Why would I rage at that?

It's something I'd laugh at.

Hes got a point. You and your amigos do tend to rage at anyone who slightly criticizes mass effect 3 in any way. If anything you guys come off as elitist. 

-Polite

[Ghost-621]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

This. A million times this. By the way, Something With Mass, posts like these aren't "elitist" nor "snobbish."

And you call my arguments weak. Go ahead, rage. I know you're going to.

Why should I?

Because you're taking everything you see at face value without spending a second thought to wonder about the nature of the information and trailers?

Why would I rage at that?

It's something I'd laugh at.

Thanks for raging. Everything I see at face-value, huh? Cute. It's not like everything aside from the very few upgrades (parts of the graphics engine) that have been previewed has suggested that ME3 is going to be a linear, disappointing, saddening game? You wouldn't have happened to know about the awe-inspiring script of ME3, would you? You should give it a read. Maybe then you'll understand.

Modifié par Ghost-621, 12 décembre 2011 - 06:18 .

[Someone With Mass]

Ghost-621 wrote...

Thanks for raging. Everything I see at face-value, huh? Cute. It's not like everything aside from the very few upgrades that have been previewed has suggested that ME3 is going to be a linear, disappointing, saddening game? You wouldn't have happened to know about the awe-inspiring script of ME3, would you? You should give it a read. Maybe then you'll understand.

I have. The longest version of the script which is about 13 MB. It showed me that ME3 will have a lot more choices compared to ME1, which everyone praises so much on this forum, while it really just gave you the illusion of having a choice every moment it could.

Oh, and just the weapon mods alone are a huge improvement compared to the tedious and pointless item managing ME1 had. The power system is more customizable this time too. There's a weight limit instead of an item limit as well.

Not to mention that the story will more than likely be longer than ME1's seven hours. And the characters are far more interesting too.

[LGTX]

I happened to be a huge fan of Mass Effect since the first title, and am completely okay and hyped with the directions they've taken with ME2 and are going to take with ME3. What the hell is wrong with me?

[Ghost-621]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Thanks for raging. Everything I see at face-value, huh? Cute. It's not like everything aside from the very few upgrades that have been previewed has suggested that ME3 is going to be a linear, disappointing, saddening game? You wouldn't have happened to know about the awe-inspiring script of ME3, would you? You should give it a read. Maybe then you'll understand.

I have. The longest version of the script which is about 13 MB. It showed me that ME3 will have a lot more choices compared to ME1, which everyone praises so much on this forum, while it really just gave you the illusion of having a choice every moment it could.

Oh, and just the weapon mods alone are a huge improvement compared to the tedious and pointless item managing ME1 had. The power system is more customizable this time too. There's a weight limit instead of an item limit as well.

Not to mention that the story will more than likely be longer than ME1's seven hours. And the characters are far more interesting too.

You're really that blind if you're saying ME3 is less linear than the first.

There's nothing I can do for you...nothing anyone can do for you. Enjoy forking over that $70 for something that is, indeed, a massive disappointment and downgrade from what it once was.

[Someone With Mass]

PoliteAssasin wrote...
Hes got a point. You and your amigos do tend to rage at anyone who slightly criticizes mass effect 3 in any way. If anything you guys come off as elitist. 

-Polite

That's because they're not even attempting to come up with a good argument beyond the horse corpse beating "It's appealing to CoD fans and it's getting linear" crap, which comes up all day and every day. It's frankly quite tiring to see, when there are dozens of videos and articles that can so easy disclaim their baseless assumptions, which they clearly ignore.

It's boring to so see such half-assed accusations all the time.

[Ghost-621]

Someone With Mass wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...
Hes got a point. You and your amigos do tend to rage at anyone who slightly criticizes mass effect 3 in any way. If anything you guys come off as elitist. 

-Polite

That's because they're not even attempting to come up with a good argument beyond the horse corpse beating "It's appealing to CoD fans and it's getting linear" crap, which comes up all day and every day. It's frankly quite tiring to see, when there are dozens of videos and articles that can so easy disclaim their baseless assumptions, which they clearly ignore.

It's boring to so see such half-assed accusations all the time.

It's boring to see your hot-air leg-humper arguments all the time, too.

The fact that you say that by having read the script that ME3 is less linear and provides more choice proves either two things, you're blind, or you never actually read it.

[Someone With Mass]

Ghost-621 wrote...
You're really that blind if you're saying ME3 is less linear than the first.

There's nothing I can do for you...nothing anyone can do for you. Enjoy forking over that $70 for something that is, indeed, a massive disappointment and downgrade from what it once was.

Great comeback.

You could've might as well just typed "No, you're wrong"

I hope you can see why I'm so tired of people like you who have absolutely NOTHING to base your arguments on beyond vague and utterly stupid assumptions.

[Someone With Mass]

Ghost-621 wrote...

It's boring to see your hot-air leg-humper arguments all the time, too.

The fact that you say that by having read the script that ME3 is less linear and provides more choice proves either two things, you're blind, or you never actually read it.

Did you just copy/paste your previous comment?

Because I can swear it was the exact same crap there too.

I have read the script.

Here, I'll prove it to you:*spoiler*

You chose the wrong side, Shepard.

I fail to see what the Illusive Man ever saw in you.

I had hoped you'd provide some real competition.*spoiler*

I get it. You're just mad because BioWare didn't base the game around your taste. But, please. I've heard enough of that.

[Ghost-621]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...
You're really that blind if you're saying ME3 is less linear than the first.

There's nothing I can do for you...nothing anyone can do for you. Enjoy forking over that $70 for something that is, indeed, a massive disappointment and downgrade from what it once was.

Great comeback.

You could've might as well just typed "No, you're wrong"

I hope you can see why I'm so tired of people like you who have absolutely NOTHING to base your arguments on beyond vague and utterly stupid assumptions.

Why thank you! Sure, it would be easier, but making you squirm on the interwebs is so much fun!
I have the entire ME3 script. But, I do believe that posting spoilers here is a banning offense. You keep going back to "You've got nothing!" Go and actually read the script this time. Any idiot knows the file size.

In short, like you said, "No, you're wrong." That was easy.

EDIT: I'm almost impressed, you actually read it! Now, tell me, how did you NOT get "linear" from the script?

Modifié par Ghost-621, 12 décembre 2011 - 06:41 .

[Thane12]

LGTX wrote...

I happened to be a huge fan of Mass Effect since the first title, and am completely okay and hyped with the directions they've taken with ME2 and are going to take with ME3. What the hell is wrong with me?

I know! wow I dont know about liking the trailer anymore!

[Savber100]

Here's my advice for both sides:

Wait till March before passing judgement.

You're NOT going to persuade anyone here or at Bioware on your points.

You;re free to cancel your preorders and you're free to wait till ME3 is in the bargain bin but realize that you're just wasting your time and breath in coming to forums to either rage about the fall of ME or to defend Bioware.

Save your breath and go invest your time in something more worth it.

Honestly, even if ME3 sucks and Bioware dies, I doubt the world will collapse nor will any of it matter in 2-3 yrs time.

[Someone With Mass]

Ghost-621 wrote...

EDIT: I'm almost impressed, you actually read it! Now, tell me, how did you NOT get "linear" from the script?

Because I actually know what the word "linear" implies (free tip: it means that you're bound to a beaten path) and the fact that I compared it to ME1, which didn't make it that linear at all.

You see, there's a difference between reading it and understanding it.

For example. When you've done a certain mission, a side mission might show up that is based on the main mission. You can either do that mission or skip it and see how it plays out in the main mission after that if a certain person died or is absent from that main mission and how it'll affect the outcome of the conflict as a whole.

That alone makes it nonlinear, because then it's branching off into other possible paths.

[ForteSJGR]

I know this is probably the wrong place to ask, but did anyone say why Garrus has new armor beyond the "I had nice blue armor.....but then I took a rocket to the chest/face"? I'm also interested to see if any sand effects will be involved or if it will be just a basic sandstorm type filter thingy during that level.