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[KingDan97]

Mesina2 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

To those who says that ME3 contains a lot of shooting: *ahem* WHAT THE **** DID YOU EXPECT?

Mass Effect has always contained a lot of shooting and nobody's trying to hide that fact.

Oh, and keep your elitist crap about how much of a snob you are to yourself. The world will manage just fine without it.

Funny since last ME3 trailer doesn't have much shooting.


Reapers shot his lasers few time, Turians were shooting with their fighters but that was mostly in background, Garrus and Vega were shooting a little, but were behind Shepard while Shepard didn't fired a single shot. Didn't even used heavy melee.

He was just running.


And nobody was killed in that trailer either but that 1 Turian. Though he could have survived it. Small chance, but chance nevertheless.

Gonna try not to dive back into a debate, but I think he was supposed to fight the Brutes, since it said to get into cover.

[Roenik]

Exactly what I want to see. Epic battles.

When the Reaper crunches the Thresher Maw, I thought "uh oh now you just pissed him off!"

Let's see the Reaper survive that

Good cinematics, team!

P.S. Indeed, between now and late Feb, if you could polish up Shep's running animation a bit more. There's something that stands out. Something robotic.

[PrinceLionheart]

Still eagerly waiting for Infiltrator Gameplay.

[Killjoy Cutter]

ForteSJGR wrote...

KingDan97 wrote...

At the very least we know EDI can make as many replicas of any weapon as you need, so loot is still moot(at least in ME2/3)

Nobody wants to actually see the manufacturing process do they?  Some things are just bound to happen off-screen due to the writers not wanting to get bogged down in over-explaning things.  One example of how that way of working though?  Shepard's revival in ME2's opener.  If you were just revived without ANY explanation at all not only would Bioware missed a great narration opportunity but would most likely have irked some fans.

I do think that Bioware could have been more clear on the fact that a lot of objects are produced through "nanomanufacturing", how that ties in to onnigel, etc, in ME and ME2.  Just little mentions, more codex information, etc.  I think the inventory and upgrade system should have been built with more of the facts of the setting in mind, again, both in ME and ME2. 

We don't need to see the process every time it happens, but as a worldbuilding nut, I actually would have been thrilled to see it happen once or twice in each game.

[KotorEffect3]

Seboist wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

LGTX wrote...
I happened to be a huge fan of Mass Effect since the first title, and am completely okay and hyped with the directions they've taken with ME2 and are going to take with ME3. What the hell is wrong with me?

Nothing.

I don't even understand some of the so-called "criticism" here. As I see it, it's mostly driven by a "they changed it now it sucks" mentality. I have my issues with ME2, and have no idea if ME3 will be better in that regard, but this overgeneralizing crap is a prime example of Fan Dumb.

ME3 took everything that was wrong with ME2 and ran with it. I didn't think it was possible to put Helena Blake becoming a social worker to shame in terms of sheer ridiculousness..... but Bioware found a way.

First of all I would like to know what exactly was it that was "wrong" with ME 2 that ME 3 ran with and give me specifics not the usual "dumbed down" dribble that haters like to run with.  Give me specifics because the way I see it ME 2 was a huge improvement over ME 1.

[Killjoy Cutter]

I've expressed plenty of criticism, had all kinds of doubts, and a lot of anger about Origin... but condemning all of ME3 based on a heavily edited action/combat trailer designed to fire up the crowd at an award show... strikes me as going completely overboard.

Based on the letdown of DA2 and some of the things I've seen, I have am worried about ME3, and assuming that Origin doesn't prevent it, I still won't purchase the game until after release and after the basics are in the Wikia.  I'd rather have the game spoiled a bit than waste my money and time. 

But I'm not going to make definative statements about the actual nature of ME3 at this point -- anyone doing so is expressing an entirely unjustified level of certainty based on grossly insufficient evidence.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 12 décembre 2011 - 05:00 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

LGTX wrote...
I happened to be a huge fan of Mass Effect since the first title, and am completely okay and hyped with the directions they've taken with ME2 and are going to take with ME3. What the hell is wrong with me?

Nothing.

I don't even understand some of the so-called "criticism" here. As I see it, it's mostly driven by a "they changed it now it sucks" mentality. I have my issues with ME2, and have no idea if ME3 will be better in that regard, but this overgeneralizing crap is a prime example of Fan Dumb.

ME3 took everything that was wrong with ME2 and ran with it. I didn't think it was possible to put Helena Blake becoming a social worker to shame in terms of sheer ridiculousness..... but Bioware found a way.

First of all I would like to know what exactly was it that was "wrong" with ME 2 that ME 3 ran with and give me specifics not the usual "dumbed down" dribble that haters like to run with.  Give me specifics because the way I see it ME 2 was a huge improvement over ME 1.

ME2 was a huge improvment in almost every way. That doesn't mean somebody will like it more. You may not like to hear it, but the RPG portion of the game was dumbed down for the 'new audience'...aka, online shooter crowd. The combat portion of the game was much improved, but still clunky and awkward compared to Gears (BioWare's blueprint for ME).

You can't blame people for being upset that the RPG was pretty much sucked right out of the game. It was already pretty damn shallow to begin with.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 12 décembre 2011 - 05:20 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

Well, the inventory system was grossly oversimplified. I don't know if the actual RPG element was all that "dumbed down".

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Well, the inventory system was grossly oversimplified. I don't know if the actual RPG element was all that "dumbed down".

The leveling system was so dumbed down, I still wonder why it was included at all.

Armor customization for NPC's... gone. Weapon customization... gone. NPC's had very little dialogue, some only lasting about 30 seconds before the game tells you that you're playing the wrong game.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 12 décembre 2011 - 05:53 .

[Arkitekt]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

NPC's had very little dialogue, some only lasting about 30 seconds before the game tells you that you're playing the wrong game.

Ahah, that made me chuckle, but I don't think it's entirely fair. You get a lot of small "quests" out of speaking with random NPCs.

[ArkkAngel007]

The RPG mechanics weren't dumbed down for the new audience. People complained about the mess of a inventory system that was in ME1, so Bioware decided that the best way to do it was simplify the whole process. I agree that it was an overcorrection, but realize that it was the product of complaints, not marketing.

That's why people really need to think through what Mass Effect is, which is a space epic. The dialogue/choices will be there, as will powers, stats, etc. Mass Effect 1 was all about the wonders of the universe to new eyes, focusing on the clean environments and political workings of the galaxy. Mass Effect 2 was all about the dirty and dangerous, with the galaxy filled more with scum and terror than wonders. Mass Effect 3 is all about tearing apart this galaxy in war. All three games are something different..

To be honest, the combat portions show off the best in the game as far as graphics, audio, and gameplay. Just watching a choice wheel being selected through in a trailer is far different than you actually making the choices.

The RPG aspect relies so much on the player's investment that it's difficult to market that to a broad audience. I hope that's clear...I'm still recovering from a final from an hour past.

With voice recordings complete, there should be plenty of RPG elements coming to the front (should actually see something before Christmas if we're lucky...depends on when non-disclosures terminate). If people are the fans that they say they are, they can do better by being patient for the next week or so.

[Arkitekt]

Nevermind the fact that weapon costumization is back, and I think it may have a good chance of being awesome at it. I like the fact in ME2 that if they didn't get weapon costumization right in ME1, might as well have none of that thing until they got it right. So we will see...

Modifié par Arkitekt, 12 décembre 2011 - 06:08 .

[ArkkAngel007]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I've expressed plenty of criticism, had all kinds of doubts, and a lot of anger about Origin... but condemning all of ME3 based on a heavily edited action/combat trailer designed to fire up the crowd at an award show... strikes me as going completely overboard.

Based on the letdown of DA2 and some of the things I've seen, I have am worried about ME3, and assuming that Origin doesn't prevent it, I still won't purchase the game until after release and after the basics are in the Wikia.  I'd rather have the game spoiled a bit than waste my money and time. 

But I'm not going to make definative statements about the actual nature of ME3 at this point -- anyone doing so is expressing an entirely unjustified level of certainty based on grossly insufficient evidence.

And no one can make a definative statement.  Could be on any point between wortst disaster and best game created.  

While I think (this isn't toward's you, towards "extremists") trying to embargo sales of Mass Effect 3 because of Origin, multiplayer inclusion, and improving combat is extreme, fans should always have concerns over the games that they purchase.  Sixty dollars isn't cheap, nor is the time put into games like this.  

[Ghost-621]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I've expressed plenty of criticism, had all kinds of doubts, and a lot of anger about Origin... but condemning all of ME3 based on a heavily edited action/combat trailer designed to fire up the crowd at an award show... strikes me as going completely overboard.

Based on the letdown of DA2 and some of the things I've seen, I have am worried about ME3, and assuming that Origin doesn't prevent it, I still won't purchase the game until after release and after the basics are in the Wikia.  I'd rather have the game spoiled a bit than waste my money and time. 

But I'm not going to make definative statements about the actual nature of ME3 at this point -- anyone doing so is expressing an entirely unjustified level of certainty based on grossly insufficient evidence.

And no one can make a definative statement.  Could be on any point between wortst disaster and best game created.  

While I think (this isn't toward's you, towards "extremists") trying to embargo sales of Mass Effect 3 because of Origin, multiplayer inclusion, and improving combat is extreme, fans should always have concerns over the games that they purchase.  Sixty dollars isn't cheap, nor is the time put into games like this.  

This is my major issue. I've invested far too much money and time into this series to simply be let down, especially in terms of story or gameplay due to oversimplification.

[BloodyTalon]

Was that grunt at the start of that trailer?

[didymos1120]

Talosred wrote...

Was that grunt at the start of that trailer?

No. 

[BloodyTalon]

Be interesting to see who ends up winning such a fight in the game my money is on the maw.

[Sailears]

Now that was a great trailer!

[ArkkAngel007]

Talosred wrote...

Was that grunt at the start of that trailer?

No, it's whoever is in place of Wrex in Mass Effect 2 if you killed him.

[Jaron Oberyn]

1st: If you read the script and thought that it wasn't linear, you might want to read it again. It was extremely linear, and past choices you made in ME1 resulted in the same outcome no matter which side of the choice you chose. 

2nd: You keep whining about how people are criticizing the game for being too dudebro and cod appealing, and all you do is come off as an elitist since the game needs more shooting and less of that confusing rpg stuff. You're preferences in a game are not more important than someone else's preferences, so stop trying to act as if your opinion of what mass effect should be is the right opinion.

Someone With Mass wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

It's boring to see your hot-air leg-humper arguments all the time, too.

The fact that you say that by having read the script that ME3 is less linear and provides more choice proves either two things, you're blind, or you never actually read it.

Did you just copy/paste your previous comment?

Because I can swear it was the exact same crap there too.

I have read the script.

Here, I'll prove it to you:*spoiler*

You chose the wrong side, Shepard.

I fail to see what the Illusive Man ever saw in you.

I had hoped you'd provide some real competition.*spoiler*

I get it. You're just mad because BioWare didn't base the game around your taste. But, please. I've heard enough of that.

[Killjoy Cutter]

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Well, the inventory system was grossly oversimplified. I don't know if the actual RPG element was all that "dumbed down".

The leveling system was so dumbed down, I still wonder why it was included at all.

Armor customization for NPC's... gone. Weapon customization... gone. NPC's had very little dialogue, some only lasting about 30 seconds before the game tells you that you're playing the wrong game.

You're getting into material that's closer to RPG-crucial. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I've expressed plenty of criticism, had all kinds of doubts, and a lot of anger about Origin... but condemning all of ME3 based on a heavily edited action/combat trailer designed to fire up the crowd at an award show... strikes me as going completely overboard.

Based on the letdown of DA2 and some of the things I've seen, I have am worried about ME3, and assuming that Origin doesn't prevent it, I still won't purchase the game until after release and after the basics are in the Wikia.  I'd rather have the game spoiled a bit than waste my money and time. 

But I'm not going to make definative statements about the actual nature of ME3 at this point -- anyone doing so is expressing an entirely unjustified level of certainty based on grossly insufficient evidence.

And no one can make a definative statement.  Could be on any point between wortst disaster and best game created.  

While I think (this isn't toward's you, towards "extremists") trying to embargo sales of Mass Effect 3 because of Origin, multiplayer inclusion, and improving combat is extreme, fans should always have concerns over the games that they purchase.  Sixty dollars isn't cheap, nor is the time put into games like this.  

You can include me amongst those who would ask everyone to just not buy any game that requires the installation of Origin or anything like it.  The only way invasive, insulting, data-mining crap like Origin will go away is if every game it's latched onto is a financial failure.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 12 décembre 2011 - 08:00 .

[Heather Cline]

I'd have rather have seen femshep in the trailer. I've seen enough of sheploo. So I'm all meh about it.

[ArkkAngel007]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

ArkkAngel007 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

I've expressed plenty of criticism, had all kinds of doubts, and a lot of anger about Origin... but condemning all of ME3 based on a heavily edited action/combat trailer designed to fire up the crowd at an award show... strikes me as going completely overboard.

Based on the letdown of DA2 and some of the things I've seen, I have am worried about ME3, and assuming that Origin doesn't prevent it, I still won't purchase the game until after release and after the basics are in the Wikia.  I'd rather have the game spoiled a bit than waste my money and time. 

But I'm not going to make definative statements about the actual nature of ME3 at this point -- anyone doing so is expressing an entirely unjustified level of certainty based on grossly insufficient evidence.

And no one can make a definative statement.  Could be on any point between wortst disaster and best game created.  

While I think (this isn't toward's you, towards "extremists") trying to embargo sales of Mass Effect 3 because of Origin, multiplayer inclusion, and improving combat is extreme, fans should always have concerns over the games that they purchase.  Sixty dollars isn't cheap, nor is the time put into games like this.  

You can include me amongst those who would ask everyone to just not buy any game that requires the installation of Origin or anything like it.  The only way invasive, insulting, data-mining crap like Origin will go away is if every game it's latched onto is a financial failure.

Just curious, but do you own a 360 or PS3?  May not have the continuation of your Shepard exactly, but better to support the developer than punish them for having to deal with EA's Origin.