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[crimzontearz]

Dreadwing 67 wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...

who would know wrote...

In Mass Effect 3, you take control of Commander Shepard, an elite soldier, and the galaxy's last hope as it faces the greatest threat and dangles on the edge of total annihilation. As Commander Shepard, you will sprint through a variety of cinematic battle zones, triggering scripted events and pushing the A button (when prompted) to achieve victory. They never said it would be easy, soldier.

Exactly. My problem wasn't with the action. There's nothing wrong with action. My problem was with that entire running "gameplay" sequence being 100% scripted. Looks like ME3 is going to be another push A to win game from Bioware. (looking at you DA2)


-Polite

This again:(

push a button = something awesome happens 

-facepalms-

[AdmiralCheez]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Exactly. My problem wasn't with the action. There's nothing wrong with action. My problem was with that entire running "gameplay" sequence being 100% scripted. Looks like ME3 is going to be another push A to win game from Bioware. (looking at you DA2)


-Polite

You missed all the tweets about the devs b*tching over how hard the levels were, didn't you?

[kregano]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

who would know wrote...

In Mass Effect 3, you take control of Commander Shepard, an elite soldier, and the galaxy's last hope as it faces the greatest threat and dangles on the edge of total annihilation. As Commander Shepard, you will sprint through a variety of cinematic battle zones, triggering scripted events and pushing the A button (when prompted) to achieve victory. They never said it would be easy, soldier.

Exactly. My problem wasn't with the action. There's nothing wrong with action. My problem was with that entire running "gameplay" sequence being 100% scripted. Looks like ME3 is going to be another push A to win game from Bioware. (looking at you DA2)

It's a one and a half minute trailer. They probably cut it down to the bare essentials so they could fit in the Thresher Maw/Reaper fight.

[Welsh Inferno]

It took about 2 minutes to finish the scripted part ffs. The whole of the gameplay won't be scripted.

[chris2365]

The only thing I didn't like about the trailer is that 90% of it was spent running

[Splinter Cell 108]

I think BioWare should start showing something else other than action. In my opinion Í think I've seen enough of that. Can't they show some dialogue or something? Also didn't they say there'd be a pulse episode on RPG mechanics? How come that hasn't appeared yet.

[Someone With Mass]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
You missed all the tweets about the devs b*tching over how hard the levels were, didn't you?

They don't count, because the developers are constantly lying to make it look complex. /sarcasm

[Dreadwing 67]

chris2365 wrote...

The only thing I didn't like about the trailer is that 90% of it was spent running

The reaper would laugh if you shot it. But I guess they could have fired at the brutes.

[kregano]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I think BioWare should start showing something else other than action. In my opinion Í think I've seen enough of that. Can't they show some dialogue or something? Also didn't they say there'd be a pulse episode on RPG mechanics? How come that hasn't appeared yet.

Their Pulse schedule got ruined by the MP leak, followed by the Beta leak. We might be getting back on track though, since we finally got to see the Pulse episode with Nova in it.

[crimzontearz]

sorry but

as much as I love a game like Skyrim for instance...I feel the lack of at least some scripted events or stepieces of a certain magniture (especially since the animations in skyrim are exceedingly lacking in every respect aside for combat) simply detatches me from the game...... a lot.

That applies to conversations as well....random Convos are cool and fine but they all feel so "cut and paste" without some camera work dammit

I like the fact that ME tries to be cinematic

Modifié par crimzontearz, 11 décembre 2011 - 03:09 .

[Splinter Cell 108]

kregano wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I think BioWare should start showing something else other than action. In my opinion Í think I've seen enough of that. Can't they show some dialogue or something? Also didn't they say there'd be a pulse episode on RPG mechanics? How come that hasn't appeared yet.

Their Pulse schedule got ruined by the MP leak, followed by the Beta leak. We might be getting back on track though, since we finally got to see the Pulse episode with Nova in it.

That explains things, but still I'd prefer to see less action though. I know its probably a marketing strategy to attract potential customers but can't they at least give us one video or something. 

[Someone With Mass]

Dreadwing 67 wrote...

The reaper would laugh if you shot it. But I guess they could have fired at the brutes.

Most enemies in ME3 have very devastating melee attacks (like the Banshee, Phantom and Atlas) and that Brute had a giant claw.

It was probably more in Shepard's favor to just run to make it a smooth run.

[PsychoWARD23]

Meh

[chris2365]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I think BioWare should start showing something else other than action. In my opinion Í think I've seen enough of that. Can't they show some dialogue or something? Also didn't they say there'd be a pulse episode on RPG mechanics? How come that hasn't appeared yet.

Well, they couldn't really show off RPG mechanics or story at the VGA's because it would bore the crowd tp watch someone play around with his weapon stats. Besides, action is one of the few things they can show without spoiling the game too much. I even think one of devs said that. They also said they'll have plenty of RPG elements to go with the action. They just haven't shown it yet

[pmac_tk421]

That trailer was rad. And to evryone complaining that they should do an RPG mechanic trailer, never go to business or advertising school.

[Welsh Inferno]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Dreadwing 67 wrote...

The reaper would laugh if you shot it. But I guess they could have fired at the brutes.

Most enemies in ME3 have very devastating melee attacks (like the Banshee, Phantom and Atlas) and that Brute had a giant claw.

It was probably more in Shepard's favor to just run to make it a smooth run.

I bet in the actual games the Brutes can hit you there. If they do they'll probably wipe out most of your health. 

[Sylvianus]

crimzontearz wrote...
I like the fact that ME tries to be cinematic

I agree, it's a good thing. Ans so far, it's impressive. I like this trailer, how it is epic and dynamic.

However during fight and action, they need to avoid this error like in MW2, or Battlefield 3, too scripted. Mw3 is an improvement, the devs listened, less scripted during action.

[chris2365]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

That trailer was rad. And to evryone complaining that they should do an RPG mechanic trailer, never go to business or advertising school.

True. Since action trailers tend to be more interesting and viable, they post those first. They don't spoil the game. Don't worry guys. We'll get our RPG, story, dialogue, etc. trailers soon enough

[Dreadwing 67]

pmac_tk421 wrote...

That trailer was rad. And to evryone complaining that they should do an RPG mechanic trailer, never go to business or advertising school.

I can see why people are frustrated but here's how it could run down.

In trailers, stick to action, show off these awsome cinematic moments.

Interviews should spend more time talking about RPG elements; in-game walkthroughs with the devs should follow suit.

Modifié par Dreadwing 67, 11 décembre 2011 - 03:13 .

[crimzontearz]

Sylvianus wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
I like the fact that ME tries to be cinematic

I agree, it's a good thing. Ans so far, it's impressive. I like this trailer, how it is epic and dynamic.

However during fight and action, they need to avoid this error like in MW2, or Battlefield 3, too scripted. Mw3 is an improvement, the devs listened, less scripted during action.

Crysis 2 did it well


remember the Onyx collapse.....or the Bridge falling down?

awesome set pieces...paced well.

Also, it helps mood-wise. Converstions in Skyrim leave me.....MEH

[Mclouvins]

chris2365 wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I think BioWare should start showing something else other than action. In my opinion Í think I've seen enough of that. Can't they show some dialogue or something? Also didn't they say there'd be a pulse episode on RPG mechanics? How come that hasn't appeared yet.

Well, they couldn't really show off RPG mechanics or story at the VGA's because it would bore the crowd tp watch someone play around with his weapon stats. Besides, action is one of the few things they can show without spoiling the game too much. I even think one of devs said that. They also said they'll have plenty of RPG elements to go with the action. They just haven't shown it yet

RPG mechanics don't even need a video to appreciate, there are still screenshots of the skill trees that show you just as much, and even that could just be written out.

[Reptilian Rob]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

I think BioWare should start showing something else other than action. In my opinion Í think I've seen enough of that. Can't they show some dialogue or something? Also didn't they say there'd be a pulse episode on RPG mechanics? How come that hasn't appeared yet.

100% agree. Although Bioware's marketing department has never been what anyone would call, "solid."

[chris2365]

Well, there's a sticky up from PDesign. Time to discuss the trailer there now. Funny how close we created our threads ( I created mine two minutes before his!)

Here's the link too: http://social.biowar...index/8812650/1

Modifié par chris2365, 11 décembre 2011 - 03:20 .

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

I had three primary thoughts while watching:

1. "Garrus! Wooooo!"

2. "Didn't recognize that voice. Probably Vega."

3. "Holy ****. Is that a thresher maw? Did I just see a thresher maw take down that Reaper?! Kick ass!"

[Reptilian Rob]

Savber100 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

WHY IS THE PLANET THAT WAS DEVASTATED BY SEVERAL GLOBAL NUCLEAR WARS BROWN? IT'S A GEARS OF WAR RIP-OFF, BECAUSE THEY'RE USING THAT COLOR!

I have actually seen arguments that were on that level, and it's quite pathetic, to be brutally honest.

And half of these are from gamers that brag about how they're soo "intelligent" why mispelling words to express their hatred of "EA selling out to tards" etc. 

I mean come on guys... Aren't we suppose to be better than this? 

If you want people to treat you as intelligent, ACT intelligent. Critics are bad when they just ramble and nitpick for no more reasons than because of personal issues. 

Go follow Terror_K's or marsh's example or something. :happy:

Just proves my theory that most gamers who were around twelve years old when the first Mass Effect came out have no clie what a video game truly is. Back in 2001 we had a ton of story and character driven games, now we're lucky if there are ten or so games a year which have an amazing story or story driven elements. Unfortunatly the mindset of most people today is the facebook mentality, wanting everything to be social and involved. This leads to things like the shoehorning of MP into ME3, or EA handing over C&C to a new Bioware studio. 

Hopefully developers and publishers still realize (Skyrim is a good example) that a lot of gamers (mostly the older crowd) still want engrossing single player stories and games.