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[John Renegade]

BlueMagitek wrote...

But we do want the Reapers to be shot. >_>

Shooting the problem may make it disappear, solving the problem will make it disappear.

[Vilio1]

naledgeborn wrote...

When you want a problem shot, ask a turian. When you want a problem talked to death, ask an asari. When you want a new problem, ask a salarian. When you want a problem solved, ask a human.

Well, Shepard often makes ignorant statements...

[GreenDragon37]

Vilio1 wrote...

naledgeborn wrote...

When you want a problem shot, ask a turian. When you want a problem talked to death, ask an asari. When you want a new problem, ask a salarian. When you want a problem solved, ask a human.

Well, Shepard often makes ignorant statements...

True. After all, look at Udina and Darius from the Renegade ME1 mission. Blatant examples of Humans furthering the problems/kicking cans down the road/sweeping things under the rug.

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 11 décembre 2011 - 04:43 .

[Bleachrude]

Um...best way to solve the reapers is to bloody SHOOT them..yeah, I think the Turians are your best bet...

[naledgeborn]

sigh... Alien apologists and their azure. I prefer the real deal.

[BlueMagitek]

Oh come on now, using that quote when the problem is an enemy we want destroyed is just asking for a rebuttal.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Without spoiling the story at all, it is almost the opposite.

Earth is being destroyed by the Reapers. Without the help Shepard can collect around the galaxy from other races (or other human outposts), earth is doomed.

Ahem...  "Humanity is the galaxy's only hope"
I dont' recall we were talkign about Earth.

And since without Shep and Cerberus the galaxy ends up doomed.....Yeup. We are the only hope. Shep is human.

[AlexXIV]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Without spoiling the story at all, it is almost the opposite.

Earth is being destroyed by the Reapers. Without the help Shepard can collect around the galaxy from other races (or other human outposts), earth is doomed.

Ahem...  "Humanity is the galaxy's only hope"
I dont' recall we were talkign about Earth.

And since without Shep and Cerberus the galaxy ends up doomed.....Yeup. We are the only hope. Shep is human.

Ok so without humans the galaxy would be doomed. And without ... say, Asari, Turians ... Protheans?

I guess the word 'only' would suggest that the humans alone can save the galaxy which they cannot. If you mean that without the humans there is no hope you are right. As there would not be hope without Protheans and maybe other species which will do their part in ME3.

[JaceTAce]

I seriously have no true respect for us as a species. But, seeing as I am human, all I can do is live with it and accept there are so many who tend to be arrogant, believing us to be more important than anything else (Fox News anyone). The only thing that gives me some relief about us is the fact that there those of us that have our moments and few who truly care.

Modifié par JaceTAce, 11 décembre 2011 - 07:04 .

[John Renegade]

I would really want to know what use the asari were in the last three thousand years to the other species.

Modifié par John Renegade, 11 décembre 2011 - 08:58 .

[Barquiel]

John Renegade wrote...

I would really want to know what use the asari were in the last three thousand years to the other species.

How many wars have there been in the last 3000 years...

- on earth?
- in council space?

This should answer your question.

[Drone223]

AlexXIV wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Without spoiling the story at all, it is almost the opposite.

Earth is being destroyed by the Reapers. Without the help Shepard can collect around the galaxy from other races (or other human outposts), earth is doomed.

Ahem...  "Humanity is the galaxy's only hope"
I dont' recall we were talkign about Earth.

And since without Shep and Cerberus the galaxy ends up doomed.....Yeup. We are the only hope. Shep is human.

Ok so without humans the galaxy would be doomed. And without ... say, Asari, Turians ... Protheans?

I guess the word 'only' would suggest that the humans alone can save the galaxy which they cannot. If you mean that without the humans there is no hope you are right. As there would not be hope without Protheans and maybe other species which will do their part in ME3.

^This every species needs to do their part to save the galaxy, though try telling it to Cerberus fans

Modifié par Drone223, 11 décembre 2011 - 09:03 .

[AgentMrOrange]

John Renegade wrote...

I would really want to know what use the asari were in the last three thousand years to the other species.

stress relief:whistle:

[John Renegade]

Barquiel wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

I would really want to know what use the asari were in the last three thousand years to the other species.

How many wars have there been in the last 3000 years...

- on earth?
- in council space?

This should answer your question.

How many people died in the krogan rebellions needlessly until the council decided to intervene? ( = until an asari colony has been attacked?)

This isn't about a number of wars, but about a number of people dead. The asari have no better account of handling this kind of situations than humans do.

Modifié par John Renegade, 11 décembre 2011 - 10:01 .

[AlexXIV]

John Renegade wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

I would really want to know what use the asari were in the last three thousand years to the other species.

How many wars have there been in the last 3000 years...

- on earth?
- in council space?

This should answer your question.

How many people died in the krogan rebellions needlessly until the council decided to intervene? ( = until an asari colony has been attacked?)

This isn't about a number of wars, but about a number of people dead. The asari have no better account of handling this kind of situations than humans do.

The council intervened in the first contact war so the turians didn't wipe out all of humanity. If you consider that the turian councilor probably had no interest to intervene and the salarian did, it depended on the asari if they do. So basically you could say without asari humans would never have become who they are now.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 11 décembre 2011 - 10:06 .

[Wulfram]

John Renegade wrote...

How many people died in the krogan rebellions needlessly until the council decided to intervene? ( = until an asari colony has been attacked?)

This isn't about a number of wars, but about a number of people dead. The asari have no better account of handling this kind of situations than humans do.

The fact that you have to go back a 1000 years for your example shows that they have a massively better account than humans.

[John Renegade]

AlexXIV wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

I would really want to know what use the asari were in the last three thousand years to the other species.

How many wars have there been in the last 3000 years...

- on earth?
- in council space?

This should answer your question.

How many people died in the krogan rebellions needlessly until the council decided to intervene? ( = until an asari colony has been attacked?)

This isn't about a number of wars, but about a number of people dead. The asari have no better account of handling this kind of situations than humans do.

The council intervened in the first contact war so the turians didn't wipe out all of humanity. If you consider that the turian councilor probably had no interest to intervene and the salarian did, it depended on the asari if they do. So basically you could say without asari humans would never have become who they are now.

And that would change things how? The asari still have blood on their hands just like humans do. And they're capable of diplomacy when it suits them . . .  just like humans are.

[John Renegade]

Wulfram wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

How many people died in the krogan rebellions needlessly until the council decided to intervene? ( = until an asari colony has been attacked?)

This isn't about a number of wars, but about a number of people dead. The asari have no better account of handling this kind of situations than humans do.

The fact that you have to go back a 1000 years for your example shows that they have a massively better account than humans.

As I've already said, the number of wars doesn't matter. The overall number of lives lost in all of them (in the rebellions due to council's own carelessness) does.

[AlexXIV]

John Renegade wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

I would really want to know what use the asari were in the last three thousand years to the other species.

How many wars have there been in the last 3000 years...

- on earth?
- in council space?

This should answer your question.

How many people died in the krogan rebellions needlessly until the council decided to intervene? ( = until an asari colony has been attacked?)

This isn't about a number of wars, but about a number of people dead. The asari have no better account of handling this kind of situations than humans do.

The council intervened in the first contact war so the turians didn't wipe out all of humanity. If you consider that the turian councilor probably had no interest to intervene and the salarian did, it depended on the asari if they do. So basically you could say without asari humans would never have become who they are now.

And that would change things how? The asari still have blood on their hands just like humans do. And they're capable of diplomacy when it suits them . . .  just like humans are.

Your initial question was of what use the asari were to other species. To the human species they were of use because they stopped the turians from wiping us out. I didn't say they always make the right calls or are better than humans. Alone Justicars are proof enough for me that they are not really better than humans. Because Justicars are a flawed concept and unworthy of a civilized culture.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 11 décembre 2011 - 10:20 .

[Vilio1]

We know the asari helped other species (read the elcor history codex entry) and they don't launch intergalactic wars of conquest. That's good enough for me.

[Wulfram]

John Renegade wrote...

As I've already said, the number of wars doesn't matter. The overall number of lives lost in all of them (in the rebellions due to council's own carelessness) does.

You think a higher proportion of lives have been lost in the Council's 3 major wars in 2000 years than have been lost in the hundreds of major wars and genocides that have occurred in human history over the same time period?

[John Renegade]

AlexXIV wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

I would really want to know what use the asari were in the last three thousand years to the other species.

How many wars have there been in the last 3000 years...

- on earth?
- in council space?

This should answer your question.

How many people died in the krogan rebellions needlessly until the council decided to intervene? ( = until an asari colony has been attacked?)

This isn't about a number of wars, but about a number of people dead. The asari have no better account of handling this kind of situations than humans do.

The council intervened in the first contact war so the turians didn't wipe out all of humanity. If you consider that the turian councilor probably had no interest to intervene and the salarian did, it depended on the asari if they do. So basically you could say without asari humans would never have become who they are now.

And that would change things how? The asari still have blood on their hands just like humans do. And they're capable of diplomacy when it suits them . . .  just like humans are.

Your initial question was of what use the asari were to other species. To the human species they were of use because they stopped the turians from wiping us out. I didn't say they always make the right calls or are better than humans. Alone Justicars are proof enough for me that they are not really better than humans. Because Justicars are a flawed concept and unworthy of a civilized culture.

And you know about such diplomatic details from where...?

Where do you take the certainty, that the asari didn't remain neutral and that the turians didn't reluctantly withdraw from the war because the salarians threatened to break the close military cooperation thing they had going with the turians? (the salarians would feel threatened and the turians would in the end decide, that the conflict wasn't worth it)

[Trinity66]

To OP: All races (or at least most of them) are nedeed to defeat reapers, so ... No.

[John Renegade]

Wulfram wrote...

John Renegade wrote...

As I've already said, the number of wars doesn't matter. The overall number of lives lost in all of them (in the rebellions due to council's own carelessness) does.

You think a higher proportion of lives have been lost in the Council's 3 major wars in 2000 years than have been lost in the hundreds of major wars and genocides that have occurred in human history over the same time period?

Most of human history the human population was relatively small, so yes, the numbers would pale in comparison to those of the citadel colonies (population on these worlds numbers in millions)

Modifié par John Renegade, 11 décembre 2011 - 10:37 .