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[TEWR]

Yeah..perhaps the companions don't fully 'die'.

It's probably just similar to what happens outside of the Fade. Knocked unconscious and all that.

Ha, you can be knocked unconscious when you're unconscious.

Editado por The Ethereal Writer Redux, 12 diciembre 2011 - 04:17 .

[Zjarcal]

Mr.House wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

I love what I'm reading here. DA3 can't come soon enough... ok, not true, they should take their time, but still, I'm eager to see how all of this plays out.

I can wait three years :happy:

That'll be plenty of time for you to grow tall. 

Also, I want to nom on Leliana so much right now.

[CrimsonZephyr]

Brockololly wrote...

All of the Mage Circles have rebelled all across Thedas (why?). The Chantry, due in large part to the Divine's pro mage attitude, basically splinters, with only one faction of Seekers (Leliana and Cassandra's group) still supporting the Divine and another faction of Seekers basically dissociating themselves from the Divine.

So do the Seekers basically end up taking the Templars with them when they rebel? So you have Seekers and Templars no longer affiliated with the Chantry going against the rebel mages, while the Divine and her smaller group of Seekers supports the mage rebellion? Or is the Divine and her part of the Chantry rendered powerless once the mages rebel and the Seekers break off?

Perhaps the Knight-Vigilant of the Templars and the Lord Seeker get a little bit too gung-ho, and the mages, now seeking to retreat from Anders' stupidity, send envoys to the Chantry, only to see their attempts at peace rebuffed. Long story short, the anti-Divine faction attacks first, and that drives the more Loyalist Circles into rebellion as well. The anti-Divine armies likely have to cross the territory of kings, who might not appreciate having their sovereignty encroached upon, especially now that these armies have split from the Divine, and thus throw their lot in with the mages.

[jlb524]

Zjarcal wrote...
Also, I want to nom on Leliana so much right now.

OMG, me too!

[Zjarcal]

jlb524 wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...
Also, I want to nom on Leliana so much right now.

OMG, me too!

*noms jlb's avi*

That'll do in the meantime. 

[RagingCyclone]

I have to say I am somewhat skeptical of the OP. The revelations seem...convenient. I mean...has the OP actually read a real copy of the book? Or a pirated copy? Seems rather...odd...at least to me. *shrugs shoulders*

[Sons of Horus]

It seems very Pro-magey so far. So did anything else happen ?

Editado por Sons of Horus, 12 diciembre 2011 - 04:47 .

[Mr.House]

Sons of Horus wrote...

It seems very Pro-magey so far. So did anything else happen ?

Has to make up for making 99% of the mages and Templars in DA2 batcrap insane.

[Sons of Horus]

Mr.House wrote...

Sons of Horus wrote...

It seems very Pro-magey so far. So did anything else happen ?

Has to make up for making 99% of the mages and Templars in DA2 batcrap insane.

Can't argue with that Mr.House. But it seem that the Pro-Divine faction doesn’t do much to provide security for this meeting wile the "anti-Divine" faction attacks first predictability within the story.

[TEWR]

So far it sounds promising, if only for the fact that it is as SoH said very pro-mage.

[Herr Uhl]

Brockololly wrote...

Lawliet89 wrote...
 - All the Circle of Magi in Thedas has rebelled.  The Seekers, or at least those who control the Templars, have decided to declare the Nevarran Accord (above) null and void since there is no more Circle. They have also decided to divorce themselves from the Chantry seeing that the Divine helped the mages.

Does the book go into detail as to why every Circle in Thedas rebels at the same time? Thats something that bugged me at the end of DA2, as its not like its a world of instant communication where you'd think rebellion like that would spread fast necessarily.

The circles have "sending stones" that seem to be instant communication used rarely. I imagine that they were involved.

[Mr.House]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

So far it sounds promising, if only for the fact that it is as SoH said very pro-mage.

I just like how it sets up more then two factions.

We have the mages who want freedom, the loyal mages, the Templars, the mage supporting Templars, the Divine and her Seeker group and the the other Seekers. Going to be intresting.

[Herr Uhl]

Mr.House wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

So far it sounds promising, if only for the fact that it is as SoH said very pro-mage.

I just like how it sets up more then two factions.

We have the mages who want freedom, the loyal mages, the Templars, the mage supporting Templars, the Divine and her Seeker group and the the other Seekers. Going to be intresting.

Makes my belief that the DA3 PC will be a seeker a bit stronger.

Then again, not sure how legit this is.

[TEWR]

Mr.House wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

So far it sounds promising, if only for the fact that it is as SoH said very pro-mage.

I just like how it sets up more then two factions.

We have the mages who want freedom, the loyal mages, the Templars, the mage supporting Templars, the Divine and her Seeker group and the the other Seekers. Going to be intresting.

Let's hope those factions remain for DAIII and are given enough stuff to make them worth it. Otherwise, I shall remain the way I was with DAII. Disappointed.

It makes sense though that this would be a much better story. Gaider was able to devote as much time as needed to it instead of being constrained by a deadline -- as I assume he's been bouncing around ideas for it for a good while and working on it in his free time -- along with it being a book where he's free to make it linear.

Maybe one day Bioware would release a revamped DAII. The one we should've gotten that's way better than what we got.

*entertains idealistic and unrealistic dreams*

Anyway, DAII aside, what is Wynne's role in the book? And Shale's? Has Shale learned anything more about becoming a Dwarf again? Does she still want to? Does she stil talk about crushing those damnable feathered fiends and squishing heads?

And most importantly, has she recited any of her dirty limericks?

Editado por The Ethereal Writer Redux, 12 diciembre 2011 - 05:17 .

[Brockololly]

Herr Uhl wrote...
The circles have "sending stones" that seem to be instant communication used rarely. I imagine that they were involved.

Yeah, forgot about those.

I'm still wondering what kind of structure any mage rebellion would have. At least by my understanding, back in Origins you had all the different mage fraternities which didn't seem to get along with each other and had vastly different views on mages' places in society. Given all those differences I have a hard time thinking all those mages would willfully grab their pitchforks and rage against the Chantry and Templars. Where does Tevinter or the Qunari stand in all of this? What about the other nation states across Thedas?

[TEWR]

Brockololly wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...
The circles have "sending stones" that seem to be instant communication used rarely. I imagine that they were involved.

Yeah, forgot about those.

I'm still wondering what kind of structure any mage rebellion would have. At least by my understanding, back in Origins you had all the different mage fraternities which didn't seem to get along with each other and had vastly different views on mages' places in society. Given all those differences I have a hard time thinking all those mages would willfully grab their pitchforks and rage against the Chantry and Templars. Where does Tevinter or the Qunari stand in all of this? What about the other nation states across Thedas?

Well if you think about, the only one that won't side with the Mage rebellion are the Loyalists.

The Aequitarians promote using the mages' powers responsibly. The Libertarians just want the Circle to be its own institution. Lucrosians happen to like money, so freedom for the Circle benefits them. Isolationists want to be hermits.

All in all, they can agree on one thing: banding together for the common goal of a free Circle, because it benefits all their views in the long run.

I imagine they'd deliberate and compromise on working to make the Circle a self-supporting, autonomous institution that adheres to society's rules and would use their magic responsibly.

[Mr.House]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...
The circles have "sending stones" that seem to be instant communication used rarely. I imagine that they were involved.

Yeah, forgot about those.

I'm still wondering what kind of structure any mage rebellion would have. At least by my understanding, back in Origins you had all the different mage fraternities which didn't seem to get along with each other and had vastly different views on mages' places in society. Given all those differences I have a hard time thinking all those mages would willfully grab their pitchforks and rage against the Chantry and Templars. Where does Tevinter or the Qunari stand in all of this? What about the other nation states across Thedas?

Well if you think about, the only one that won't side with the Mage rebellion are the Loyalists.

The Aequitarians promote using the mages' powers responsibly. The Libertarians just want the Circle to be its own institution. Lucrosians happen to like money, so freedom for the Circle benefits them. Isolationists want to be hermits.

All in all, they can agree on one thing: banding together for the common goal of a free Circle, because it benefits all their views in the long run.

I imagine they'd deliberate and compromise on working to make the Circle a self-supporting, autonomous institution that adheres to society's rules and would use their magic responsibly.

Hermit mages for DA4?

[erilben]

RagingCyclone wrote...

I have to say I am somewhat skeptical of the OP. The revelations seem...convenient. I mean...has the OP actually read a real copy of the book? Or a pirated copy? Seems rather...odd...at least to me. *shrugs shoulders*

I don't think the OP is making it up. Google has the preview of the book online here. Even though you can only preview some of the pages, you can search on the entire(?) book and get snippet views if it finds the search words. The "I realised early on that Tranquility wasn't repairable on this side of the Fade" quote is actually in the book, and there's other talks about a Tranquil getting cured.

[TEWR]

Hermit mages for DA4?

There is only one Hermit mage in all of Thedas.

He is....
....

the mad hermit!




click

beware his power, for he shall ask you questions and you will fear him for it!

Editado por The Ethereal Writer Redux, 12 diciembre 2011 - 05:47 .

[Mr.House]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Hermit mages for DA4?

There is only one Hermit mage in all of Thedas.

He is....
....

the mad hermit!




click

beware his power, for he shall ask you questions and you will fear him for it!

But I killed him so the mighty golden Oak would live on.

[Sons of Horus]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Hermit mages for DA4?

There is only one Hermit mage in all of Thedas.

He is....
....

the mad hermit!




click

beware his power, for he shall ask you questions and you will fear him for it!

I agree .. wait a min Conspiracy theory : could he have been the Black divine ? Who was really Hawke’s real father?

[Brockololly]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote..
All in all, they can agree on one thing: banding together for the common goal of a free Circle, because it benefits all their views in the long run.

I imagine they'd deliberate and compromise on working to make the Circle a self-supporting, autonomous institution that adheres to society's rules and would use their magic responsibly.

Sure, but how are they going to go about all this? I mean, what are their end goals as a rebellion? Who is in charge, speaking for the mages? Do they want to make their own Mage state, like Tevinter? Are they forming some miltary force to achive their goals by violence or what?

And even if they want to make the Circle some autonomous institution, what nation in their right mind would let them set up shop within their borders? Especially if they're without any external oversight from the Templars, considering all the crap in Kirkwall was started by a nutso mage that let himself get possessed?


Bit of a tangent, but I just hope they get into the nitty gritty details of what the mage rebellion is actually about and what they're actually trying to accomplish, cause DA2 did a terrible job of that.

erilben wrote...

I don't think the OP is making it up. Google has the preview of the book online here.
Even though you can only preview some of the pages, you can search on
the entire(?) book and get snippet views if it finds the search words.
The "I realised early on that Tranquility wasn't repairable on this side
of the Fade" quote is actually in the book, and there's other talks
about a Tranquil getting cured.

Yup, nice catch. You can totally look up key words there for spoilers.

Looks like Fiona is in the book too.

Editado por Brockololly, 12 diciembre 2011 - 06:07 .

[TEWR]

Brockololly wrote...

Sure, but how are they going to go about all this? I mean, what are their end goals as a rebellion? Who is in charge, speaking for the mages? Do they want to make their own Mage state, like Tevinter? Are they forming some miltary force to achive their goals by violence or what?

Something tells me they'd rather just play hide-and-seek with the Templars, since the Libertarians are not a violent fraternity. The only violent fraternity is the Libertarian offshoot the Resolutionists, but the Libertarians try to do things peacefully.

Granted, peaceful methods to try to create an independent Circle is never going to work.

And even if they want to make the Circle some autonomous institution, what nation in their right mind would let them set up shop within their borders? Especially if they're without any external oversight from the Templars, considering all the crap in Kirkwall was started by a nutso mage that let himself get possessed?

Ferelden probably would negotiate a way for the mages to rule over themselves with the Templars acting simply as a way to ensure safety from Abominations and rogue Maleficarum.

Bit of a tangent, but I just hope they get into the nitty gritty details of what the mage rebellion is actually about and what they're actually trying to accomplish, cause DA2 did a terrible job of that.

Indeed. DAII was horrible at doing anything with the Mage-Templar conflict other than making it look like a giant cluster****.

If a toolset ever gets released before I'm done my DAII fanfic, I'm gonna learn how to mod it to be the game it should've been.

But.... everyone would be silent, so that would make me sad

[Dave of Canada]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

So far it sounds promising, if only for the fact that it is as SoH said very pro-mage.

You and I are about to have a talk. In private.

[Dave of Canada]

 So is...

Rhys reluctantly embarks on a journey into the western wastelands that will not only reveal much more than he bargained for but change the fate of his fellow mages forever.

... the curing of Tranquility?

Editado por Dave of Canada, 12 diciembre 2011 - 08:23 .