This might be a tad long but bear with me.
Cole being Anders real name or his real last name...that might not be that far fetched. Gaider did say that Anders and his family did live in the West...The Anderfels or near the area, before Anders was taken to the circle and taken when he was older a young youth not some young child. The Anderfels share a border with Orlais on the West. The setting in the novel is on the western border of Orlais and the Anderfels, the Adamant part at least. To reach Weisshaupt you have to travel through Orlais and the Badlands if I remember correctly. Cole also knew right away in Adamant that the rooms upstairs were bedrooms and he seemed to notice and fully understand the layout of the keep, like he had been there before, if Cole is the Warden, he knew that lab was in the lower levels. Could Pharamond have been a warden as well? The templars capture him as a warden and make him tranquil? Just another question that popped into my head. The wardens find out and seek the aid of the Divine and thus Leliana's involvment with the Chantry and Wardens. Why would the Chantry send him to a once held Warden base for his research? The Chantry also showed up at the hidden warden base in Legacy. This didn't make any sense to me in the novel or the dlc. Wynne also stated that she had visited there several times, and I'm guessing she was traveling with the warden even though we were told that she wasn't or maybe she was sent there when being in the Circle. If the Chantry is hunting the warden...then the warden has to stay hidden especially in Kirkwall. If you befriended Wynne she is going to do all she can to help save the Hero of Ferelden and her son.
I'd also surmise if the Warden survived the blight, then he/she might be trying to find records of other wardens who ended the other four blights to see if they had been saved by the same ritual as he/she for himself/herself and maybe on behalf of Alistair if he did the DR with Morrigan. If not a mage then the warden will need a mage along thus Wynne being in the area who might understand any transcripts and Finn from WH could be along as well. We don't know what happened to him. I find it odd too that the Wardens allowed Fiona to leave their service and enter back in in a way with the Chantry as the Grand Enchanter. I found this interesting. So the Wardens placed one of their own back inside the Chantry in a way and Fiona hated the Chantry. Since the Lord Seeker tried to kill Fiona and templars possibly the Warden (Hero of Ferelden) too then the Wardens will have a beef with the Chantry and vice versa. The Chantry for recruiting Anders and the Hero of Ferelden killing all of those Templars in Awakenings. Wardens do support blood magic and the order is a haven for blood mages. If the Chantry/Seekers/Templars and Wardens are in a battle with each other then each ****** for tat has to be done like the game is played in Orlais, underhanded and dirty for political reasons. Each group can't do it out in the open.
This could have been his/her mission that Alistair speaks about that the warden is on when in Kirkwall, plus trying to stop Anders. So the warden might have a reason for being in both areas: Kirkwall and since Adamant is buildt right on the ledge of the great opening which the Arch Demon came out of during the second blight.
Our Warden(s) could have been ordered to take Anders from Kirkwall and take him to Weisshaupt (if the Warden revived him with Ser Pounce). I think our Warden was in Kirkwall too. I always got the impression when playing DA2 that my Warden was in Kirkwall in the background especially with the quest you can do for the Wardens in Act II. I also don't see me traveling on a serious mission without other Wardens which would explain Howe being around and Stroud also. I see Zevran helping the warden in Kirkwall also. For all we know the Warden and Hawke are one and the same with the knowledge that a person's blood can be preserved like Flemeth and they can be revived or pieces of them split like Flemeth. The warden is now tainted by blood magic so this might work.
I also don't see Alistair giving away the locket of his love unless the Warden told him to do it. That is not like Alistairs' character in either game. Unless Gaider means exactly what he said at the Pax East Panel where Alistiar never really loved the Warden. It has bothered me that Alistair gave that locket away of his love. Also calling his Queen (if the warden, a ball and chain, could be a reference to Anora as well) or he did this for any templar listening to distance himself from the hero of Ferelden or throw off the Chantry. If your Warden died in Origins, then the Orlesian Warden or Warden Stroud, took your place in the plot of DA2, possibly being hidden in the shadows.
No I don't think Cole is a fade spirit but I understand why you say that. Cole's discription in the book does sound like Anders.
Quote from the book:
"A man pushed the Lord Seeker down and held a dagger against his throat." The warden's murder knife here! and every warden had one, even Anders. It's in these last few paragraphs of the book that we learn that Cole isn't who he said he was throughout the novel. Whoever this person is said there was once a Cole and the Templars allowed him to die or they killed him and covered it up, the Templars wouldn't hide that they killed Anders - they'd be shouting it from the rooftops, but they would the Hero of Ferelden. The book also said the Templars were ashamed of that fact the death had happened. So the Cole in the book was not who he said he was throughout the whole book. This bothered me about who Cole was and this is why I read the book for the seond time.
The novel does take place after the events in Kirkwall and I can see the Warden reviving Anders with Ser-Pounce-Alot. The Warden did have the kitty in his inventory at the end of WH. I know player agency and the decision which the warden makes might have an effect at the end of WH for this to be so. Wardens who went through the mirror with Morrigan found out the Warden came back from the mirror or we are given strong hints that the warden was thought alive at this point. If the warden died in a dungeon of the chantry and unless Pounce can find the warden, then the warden who lived through the DR could very well be truly dead. Unless a piece of he/she is like Flemeth with the DR now. If dead the Warden might be able to be revived. This would tie in with male wardens and Morrigan. Flemeth and Morrigan both might be able to revive the warden and if you killed Flemeth she might not be willing to revive you!
The Chantry has tried to kill the Warden and Anders before in Awakenings, so I can see where they keep trying to capture and kill both of them, thus the Warden has to stay hidden in Kirkwall which is the eastern power base for the Templars. The Warden(s) if they also played through GOA also knew about the Harvester which Orsino turned into and I'm sure the Chantry wouldn't want that information out especially after the events in Kirkwall with Orsino; but, the Hero of Ferelden knew about it.
If the Seekers/Templars caught the Warden with a revived Anders, took them to Val Royeaux and imprison them there, then this would also explain why the Warden has gone missing. My warden(s) who might have been imprisoned in a Chantry dungeon and witnessed the brutal death of one of my Wardens, then I'd certainly do everything in my power to bring the Chantry down or those within the Chantry at the White Spire responsible for killing my fellow Warden - especially if the mage who died in that cell was Anders, also if I'd done everthing to try and save Anders after he blew up the Chantry. We never see what happened to Ander's body if you kill him. If you don't kill him, then I can see the Wardens taking him prisoner and the only safe place for Anders will be with the Wardens in Weisshaput. There is the cut scene back to Hawk and followers then the game goes forward for the battle in Lowtown to begin. Anyone who played Awakenings knows that Ser Pounce can revive a dead person especially Anders. Didn't Anders say somewhere that Pounce is his familiar? What if Cole is Justice? That would also be interesting and could explain your theory about a fade spirit or demon.
Also don't forget that King Alistair seemed to want the help of Hawke and for whatever reason he never asks Hawke for the favor he was going to ask. This could be due to Warden business and Anders would fall into being Warden business. King Alistair arrives in Kirkwall to a Templar controlled Viscount Keep. If the Templars killed the Warden then Alistair can't say inside this keep. This would also explain Alistair being mouthy with Meredith. I can see the Wardens trying to stop Anders and also what was going on with the Legacy dlc as well. Kirkwall had two on-the-lamb wardens running around and I don't see the Wardens just letting that go, they'd hunt both Wardens, same for our missing Warden. DA2 when importing Alistair as King makes a point that Alistair is one of few Wardens allowed to leave the order. Alistiair maybe King in some playthroughs but he will always be a warden regardless of being allowed to leave the order or not, unless their is a cure we all don't know about. So Anders and the Warden both would have the highest military might for the Chantry which is the Seekers hunting them. The Chantry would send their best against Wardens which would be Seekers. This is really bad news for Alistair if he is your husband or once lover and also for Leliana.
Rhys being Wynne's son also played a part if Cole is the Warden or Cole is Anders with Anders knowing Wynne from the Ferelden Circle. Anders does stand by his friends and is loyal until the third act events of DA2. Cole if the warden would want to save Wynne's son, my wardens would. Cole's back story could fall under any wardens origin story. The taint could make some of the details screwy especially if Cole is the Warden and the Seekers/Templars tortured the Warden while in the dungeon. If Cole is Anders then Justice being part of Anders could cloud the issue as well, actually Cole's back story might follow Anders more then any Hero of Ferelden. We know that Anders was ripped from his family and Anders never talks about his father except for the fact that his father hated his magical abilities.
Once again in the book just before the person who is pretending to be Cole reaches Adamant Fortress he discribes how the taint works and hears the darkspawn. The taint could be discribed as something that causes you to disappear and in a sense this is what happenes, you lose all of the old ties to your old life, you lose yourself, who you once were. The taint itself is a blackness aka darkness within you that swallows you whole as a person, the taint is demonic and evil, a corruption. The Joining Ritual of a Warden in DAO and Awakening is a blood ritual aka blood magic and the Litany of Andrala might cure a Warden for a time of the taint, thus Cole disappears in the sewers when fighting the Lord Seeker. There is also the potion of purity in DA2 to help fight darkspawn and this to me is a Chantry/Cirlce created potion. If Anders is Cole then he would be smart enough to run away. If Cole is my Warden at the end of the book, I'd have fought the Lord Seeker to the death. That would be some battle too. A high ranking warden going up against a high ranking Chantry Seeker, it would be bloody. So Cole being Anders or the Warden is possible or at least to me for the last couple of pages in the book.
Only a warden can hear the darkspawn, Anders is a mage, a warden, plus corrupted with the taint and Justice both and the Litany of Andrala might work on Justice. We've never been told that a fade being of any kind can hear the darkspawn, only a Warden can. Wynne does tell us in DAO that the darkspawn are connected to the fade so this is might be how but we don't know how unless the taint starting in the fade is how and the Legacy dlc touches on this. That taint of the darkspawn did start in the fade when taking the Golden City. So I'm fairly certain Cole in the book is the Warden or a Warden (and also possibly Anders). If the mage who died in the cell was a mage Warden then Cole could be Anders.
Also when a person becomes a Warden they are not called by their real name anymore, examples would be: Warden Cousland, Warden Aeducan, Warden Howe and so on or just Warden. So using the first name would be another way to hide the fact that Cole might be a Warden. Same with Anders...Cole being Anders' first name which would make his name Cole Anders aka Warden Anders. If Cole is Anders and the other person who actually died in the dungeon was a Warden Mage or even the Hero of Ferelden, then Anders/Justice would seek revenge for the Warden if the Templars did kill the Hero of Ferelden. If this is what happened then this would also explain Alistair's odd behavior in DA2 if he was the love interest of the Warden. The templars wouldn't care if they killed Anders but there would be far reaching consequences of killing the Hero of Ferelden especially if she is the Queeen of Ferelden also. This would also pit Ferelden and Orlais at each other again. I don't see King Alistair allowing the Chantry to get away with killing his wife and maybe this is why he needs his father back from the comics. I also don't see him or Anora allowing the Hero of Ferelden being killed by Templars nor do I see the Warden organization allowing the Chantry to get away with it. Maybe this is why we've already seen concept artwork for DA3 with a Warden and Seeker. Cole could also be Loghain too. Fits his back story too, with Orlais killing Loghain's mother. Part of Cole's real story on what happened to him was told in the Fade part of the novel. If Loghain was the warden taking Anders back wow, the conspiracy that would cause. What if Hawke didn't really kill Anders. That knife wasn't very big that Hawke used and Anders is a healing mage and warden. Warden's heal fast and have great stamina. I see Anders being alive regardless. The third novel and Cole could tie into many characters from the first two games, even the OGB. What if Cole's mother was Morrigan? This would give Bioware a fresh start with DA3. If the Templars did kill the Hero of Ferelden, then I do see all of these groups trying to find out the truth. We've never seen the First Warden in the game either.
If this is where the book is heading and if Templars did kill the Hero of Ferelden this will also pit the Chantry against Wardens, mages, and all of Ferelden, then the wardens decisions of who they saved and made a part of their army will have consequences also. Ferelden will rise up if the Templars killed their savior. I see this with Alistair or Anora being ruler or both of them. If the Hero of Ferelden was killed in Orlais Ferelden won't go for that. Just my opinion.
Just my thoughts on the plot on the book and things that I noticed. I do think I have sound arguments here.
Edit for a mistake and a few additional thoughts.
Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 10 mai 2012 - 04:06 .
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