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[Stephenc13]

 does anyone else agree?
unless I'm really late and uninformed about ammo powers

I think that instead of making different Ammo types through skills, it should be weapon modifications like in ME1
It just makes more sense like that.

Since there will be an inventory system, wouldn't it be better this way?

[Harmless Citizen]

It is ridiculous, especially warp ammo.

I still prefer the ME2 system, though, especially if it frees up other mod slots on weapons.

[robarcool]

Well, if that happens, some slots will open up for new powers for soldier class. But, it will not happen.

[Stephenc13]

Random Nobody wrote...

It is ridiculous, especially warp ammo.

I still prefer the ME2 system, though, especially if it frees up other mod slots on weapons.

Warp ammo also should only be availible to biotics

[YNation913]

Not really. They're contributions to your direct damage abilities. In fact, I think cryo blast is pretty useless when compared to its ammo counterpart.

[Ryzaki]

Warp Ammo makes perfect sense if Shep either is a biotic or has a biotic on the squad.

All the others should be weapon mods.

[Sanunes]

Odd my response was posted blank, a shorter response for I am lazy and don't want to type my full response again.  

I wouldn't have mind a change from the Ammo Powers in ME2, but if I had to pick the Ammo System from ME1 or the Ammo Powers from ME2, I would go for Ammo Powers.

Modifié par Sanunes, 12 décembre 2011 - 04:49 .

[lauda69]

i dont know if you look at ME1 soldier class shep had no real significant abilities aside from rush mode, if they brought back weapon skills it could work( carnage, overkill)

[Harmless Citizen]

Ryzaki wrote...

Warp Ammo makes perfect sense if Shep either is a biotic or has a biotic on the squad.

Not lore-wise. IIRC, Warp ammo is Shepard/Jack coating the shrapnel with a biotic field. Considering the speed that the bullets (supposedly...in-game it's quite different) travel, unless they somehow maintain a sticking warp field inside the gun, it's entirely implausible.

[Ryzaki]

Random Nobody wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Warp Ammo makes perfect sense if Shep either is a biotic or has a biotic on the squad.

Not lore-wise. IIRC, Warp ammo is Shepard/Jack coating the shrapnel with a biotic field. Considering the speed that the bullets (supposedly...in-game it's quite different) travel, unless they somehow maintain a sticking warp field inside the gun, it's entirely implausible.

Huh. Oh well its useful.

[Sgt.Catman]

This ammo thread again? Ammo are powers now. Deal with it

[ODST 5723]

Regardless of whether or not you chose for your Shepard to be a Sentinel, Vanguard or Adept... I hate to break it to you but your Shepard is a biotic. This was confirmed in ME1 in a conversation between Shepard and Kaidan and in both games by the existence of biotic bonus powers no matter what class you were.

[ODST 5723]

My ME1 Soldiers and Engineers that had that convo disagree.  I only played Adept, Sentinel and Vanguard for the power specific achievements in ME1 and skipped the convo so I could spam out the powers at Pinnacle Station.

Modifié par ODST 5723, 12 décembre 2011 - 05:08 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I agree but they are a good thing for gameplay in my opinion.

Yep.  Prefer them as powers for that reason: easier to manage and swap out on the fly.

Also like the holographic indicators since all it takes is a glance at my gun to see what ammo I/my squadmates have "equipped."  Never really thought they looked dopey.

Wrong. Shepard is only ever said to be a biotic if you make him a biotic class. Using biotic powers on non-biotic classes is just a gameplay feature.

Again, yep.  And I have no problem slapping a biotic bonus on a non-biotic Shepard.  Sometimes I make up silly roleplay reasons for doing so, but mostly it's because, hot damn, Reave and Stasis really come in handy.

[Wulfram]

I wouldn't call squad ammo powers easy to manage a swap out on the fly. Particularly when Jack and Zaeed both have Squad ammo powers and keep fighting over what we're going to be using.

I don't see why you couldn't make them easy to swap without having them as powers, anyway.

Modifié par Wulfram, 12 décembre 2011 - 05:48 .

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

I just like that it makes the classes more distinct from one another.

That, too.

Really, the only thing I miss about the old ammo mods is ye olde sledgehammer.  Toxic damage + added weapon force = yes, please.

[tobynator89]

Actually, it makes more sense from both a gameplay perspective and practical perspective. The ammo ability isn't the ammo itself per-se but the qualification for handling volatile ordinance and how it functions compared to normal ammunition.

[Mr Arg]

ODST 5723 wrote...

My ME1 Soldiers and Engineers that had that convo disagree.  I only played Adept, Sentinel and Vanguard for the power specific achievements in ME1 and skipped the convo so I could spam out the powers at Pinnacle Station.

Someone bought Pinnacle Station?

Regardless, the system in ME1 made sense realistically (as physical weapon modifications). But the ME2 system was better for gameplay. Now if we could just get a High Explosive Rounds Ammo Power...

[AdmiralCheez]

Wulfram wrote...

I wouldn't call squad ammo powers easy to manage a swap out on the fly. Particularly when Jack and Zaeed both have Squad ammo powers and keep fighting over what we're going to be using.

Deactivate squad power usage.  It helps.

Or do what I do and rely on a designated shield/armor/barrier buster, be the "ammo master" yourself through class or bonus powers (which saves skill points for other stuff on your 'mates), or don't take the squad evolution and just let each squadmate use his/her own ammo.  Personally, I like to give Jacob and Grunt inferno ammo, then use squad cryo for everyone else.  Or squad warp/AP.

I don't see why you couldn't make them easy to swap without having them as powers, anyway.

Unless they make "swap mods" a hotkey, it's not gonna happen.  You won't believe how much pausing the game to diddle around in your inventory disrupts combat flow.

[crimzontearz]

actually......Shepard is a confirmed Biotic by canon (look at the wiki) the fact that the conversation with Kaiden only happens if you playa biotic class (or a non biotic class with a bonus biotic power) only reflects the fact that non-biotics class shepards never underwent training for their biotic skills and do not have an amp to use them