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[TMA LIVE]

I'm surprised Jack didn't cause a nudity. I mean, you can't get more side boob then her. I guess it was the ass shot that did it for ME1.

[this isnt my name]

dcal31 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

dcal31 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Supporting evidence from the Australia classification

Mass Effect: Drug references; Sex scenes; Strong themes
Mass Effect 2: Strong violence
Mass Effect 3: Strong violence and sex scenes

Not to get to far off topic, but where were the drug references in ME? I seem to recall drugs mentioned one or two times in passing, but that's about it. Did I forget something, because I don't recall any drug scenes at all in the game? (Except for the guy hooked on future crack now that I think about it, but technically that was a legal drug.) And on the same note, if it's there for ME, then won't ME2 be an even bigger violator? (I'm looking at you Mr. Biotic God.)

On topic, I agree with most of the other posts here, the scenes in ME were very tastefully done, even compared to movies or TV shows. ME2's scenes were kind of hit or miss; some were good, some were just weird. (Awkward leg humping anyone?) So, a more ME style to the scenes would be an improvement.

Red Sand is a drug in the ME series.

Agreed. But I don't recall it ever really coming up in ME, other then it being mentioned that red sand is drug. Is the meer mention of an (imaginary) drug enough for the label to get slapped on a game? I was wondering how want part of the game the drug references label is refering to. And again, ME2 had much more and explicit drug use, so why no label there?

In mass effect 1 there is  negotiator addicted to some stimulants. You can get them for him or give him a sedtive, there is also an alcoholic you can help depending on your background. Not exactlystrong things, but its Australia.

[kirvingtwo]

this isnt my name wrote...

Its becuase of threads like this people make collections of the sad things regularly said on this forum, then post them for the internet to laugh at you.

I mean seriously, you have made a thread speculating nudity in the game. Its not "christina norman for LI" sad when they first saw her, but its not going to make you guys look good.

For gods sake your on the internet, porn is but a few clicks away, why do you care about nudity in a game ? You would swear its like the victorian times where people are desperate just to see a womans ankle.

I may seem like im going bit far with my rection. But you have made a thread about nudity, I mean, just.. Bah.

Why then do you care about people caring about nudity in the game?

As usual, Mr Priestly has dashed my hopes by saying that the scenes will be more like ME2 than ME1.

Modifié par kirvingtwo, 12 décembre 2011 - 10:39 .

[darth_lopez]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

This is the same rating as ME2 had and any sex scenes would be comparible to what you saw in Mass Effect 2.

Was ME1 really so controversial? Commit genocide, kill anything with a pulse...but oh dear, show some buttocks or side-breast and the world is at arms with you?

Blame fox, apparently bioware took it up the bum big time all because of lies and ignorance. yet when the tables turned in theeir favor they simply prefered to hide like chstized childr rather than a company that makes games with adult themes. Don't say genocide and cyberization aren't adult themes either damnit.  >:| yes i'm mad about my RPG's name on an RTS as well sellouts.

[Oblivious]

this isnt my name wrote...

I may seem like im going bit far with my rection. But you have made a thread about nudity, I mean, just.. Bah.

:lol: Funny how you one sentence taken out of context can turn even a troll into the life of the party.

[DeathDragon185]

AlexXIV wrote...

King Minos wrote...

Killing people can make a game a 15 but adding nudity makes it an 18?

Because you may have sex only at 18, but you may kill people at 15.

WIN!!!!

[Oblivious]

TMA LIVE wrote...

I'm surprised Jack didn't cause a nudity. I mean, you can't get more side boob then her. I guess it was the ass shot that did it for ME1.

It's like everything else videogame-related. It's only bad the first time, but every other time it's ok. I mean, look at The Witcher 2's portrayal of nudity/sex. They have everything except male genitalia (yay!) and nobody even cares. The industry is moving forward, Bioware is that one company who used to be the one leading the charge but are now the ones hiding in the corner out of fear they might get "reprimanded."


Meanwhile Call of Duty is assassinating Fidel Castro. You know it's bad when Call of Duty is more innovative than you are. <_<

[dcal31]

this isnt my name wrote...

dcal31 wrote...

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In mass effect 1 there is  negotiator addicted to some stimulants. You can get them for him or give him a sedtive, there is also an alcoholic you can help depending on your background. Not exactlystrong things, but its Australia.

Right, those were the only one I could come up with either and those were both legal drugs. I thought maybe I missed something. I guess ratings nuances are mostly up to the whim over whoever is judging it at the time.

[darth_lopez]

dcal31 wrote...


Agreed. But I don't recall it ever really coming up in ME, other then it being mentioned that red sand is drug. Is the meer mention of an (imaginary) drug enough for the label to get slapped on a game? I was wondering how want part of the game the drug references label is refering to. And again, ME2 had much more and explicit drug use, so why no label there?

whether red sand is imaginery or not it's a refrence  to cocaine, a fairly blatant one as well. Sci-Fi tries to cover up their drug refrences with fake ones, for example the all to Obvious "Would you like to buy some Death-Sticks? You don't want to sell me death sticks. I don't want to sell you death-sticks. you want to go home and rethink your life." scene from SWEP3RoS. It's not exactly subtly, it's obviously a refrence to either marijuana or cigarettes from the way the object looks at that. the key thing about having the warning there is that it is interpretable as a refrence. Jet Doesn't exist either, Fallout is still rated the same in regards to drugs even though you can't smoke any of the damned cigarettes in the game(this really bothered me actually i wanted my character to smoke, i don't but he'd have looked BA if he did.)

[darthnick427]

alex90c wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

This is the same rating as ME2 had and any sex scenes would be comparible to what you saw in Mass Effect 2.

Was ME1 really so controversial? Commit genocide, kill anything with a pulse...but oh dear, show some buttocks or side-breast and the world is at arms with you?

Well nobody ever said the controvery was reasonable.

It really shouldn't matter anymore, Bioware should the scenes like they did in ME1 and not fear any controversy. After the scenes in the Witcher 2, ME1's scene was a PG rating. And GTA and Duke Nukem have all done much worse

[DeathDragon185]

wait a minute if FOX does **** about it.... doesn't that mean FREE advertising your game? ITS A WIN WIN situation.

[darth_lopez]

darthnick427 wrote...

alex90c wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

This is the same rating as ME2 had and any sex scenes would be comparible to what you saw in Mass Effect 2.

Was ME1 really so controversial? Commit genocide, kill anything with a pulse...but oh dear, show some buttocks or side-breast and the world is at arms with you?

Well nobody ever said the controvery was reasonable.

It really shouldn't matter anymore, Bioware should the scenes like they did in ME1 and not fear any controversy. After the scenes in the Witcher 2, ME1's scene was a PG rating. And GTA and Duke Nukem have all done much worse

ME 1's scene was PG by hollywoods standard thus the problem.

[dcal31]

darth_lopez wrote...

dcal31 wrote...


Agreed. But I don't recall it ever really coming up in ME, other then it being mentioned that red sand is drug. Is the meer mention of an (imaginary) drug enough for the label to get slapped on a game? I was wondering how want part of the game the drug references label is refering to. And again, ME2 had much more and explicit drug use, so why no label there?

whether red sand is imaginery or not it's a refrence  to cocaine, a fairly blatant one as well. Sci-Fi tries to cover up their drug refrences with fake ones, for example the all to Obvious "Would you like to buy some Death-Sticks? You don't want to sell me death sticks. I don't want to sell you death-sticks. you want to go home and rethink your life." scene from SWEP3RoS. It's not exactly subtly, it's obviously a refrence to either marijuana or cigarettes from the way the object looks at that. the key thing about having the warning there is that it is interpretable as a refrence. Jet Doesn't exist either, Fallout is still rated the same in regards to drugs even though you can't smoke any of the damned cigarettes in the game(this really bothered me actually i wanted my character to smoke, i don't but he'd have looked BA if he did.)

Just to point out, I'm refering to ME, not ME2. In Me2, the drug use is pretty blatant, I was trying to find any actual drug use in ME. There is none as far as I can tell, except for the two examples mentioned ealier, and those are pretty weak examples. I was wondering why ME got a drug label and ME2 didn't when ME2 had much more blatant drug use.

[this isnt my name]

Oblivious wrote...

this isnt my name wrote...

I may seem like im going bit far with my rection. But you have made a thread about nudity, I mean, just.. Bah.

:lol: Funny how you one sentence taken out of context can turn even a troll into the life of the party.

Ah Bioware social, where anyone who dosent offer Bioware their **** at every oppertunity is a troll.

[FieryDove]

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Was ME1 really so controversial? Commit genocide, kill anything with a pulse...but oh dear, show some buttocks or side-breast and the world is at arms with you?

You mean you didn't see the "Shock and horror" BW, EA and MS put parents through?

[Harmless Citizen]

According to cut dialogue, Jack takes drugs "all the time."

Not actually relevant, but the way Hale says it is funny.

[Sylvianus]

a human diplomat asks in M1 if shepard can help him to acquire a stimulus. You can help him or refuse. But a stimulus can be considered as drugs.

Now I'm not saying that the label has a meaning, it is not always the case in the industry.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 12 décembre 2011 - 10:43 .

[MICHELLE7]

Bekkael wrote...

I sure hope we see a return to the tasteful and well done scenes from ME1 as opposed to the giggle-snort worthy stuff from ME2 and DA2.

We can hope.

[darth_lopez]

dcal31 wrote...

darth_lopez wrote...

dcal31 wrote...


Agreed. But I don't recall it ever really coming up in ME, other then it being mentioned that red sand is drug. Is the meer mention of an (imaginary) drug enough for the label to get slapped on a game? I was wondering how want part of the game the drug references label is refering to. And again, ME2 had much more and explicit drug use, so why no label there?

whether red sand is imaginery or not it's a refrence  to cocaine, a fairly blatant one as well. Sci-Fi tries to cover up their drug refrences with fake ones, for example the all to Obvious "Would you like to buy some Death-Sticks? You don't want to sell me death sticks. I don't want to sell you death-sticks. you want to go home and rethink your life." scene from SWEP3RoS. It's not exactly subtly, it's obviously a refrence to either marijuana or cigarettes from the way the object looks at that. the key thing about having the warning there is that it is interpretable as a refrence. Jet Doesn't exist either, Fallout is still rated the same in regards to drugs even though you can't smoke any of the damned cigarettes in the game(this really bothered me actually i wanted my character to smoke, i don't but he'd have looked BA if he did.)

Just to point out, I'm refering to ME, not ME2. In Me2, the drug use is pretty blatant, I was trying to find any actual drug use in ME. There is none as far as I can tell, except for the two examples mentioned ealier, and those are pretty weak examples. I was wondering why ME got a drug label and ME2 didn't when ME2 had much more blatant drug use.

it was pretty blatant in ME 1 too, the Turian you consult talks about how the suspect was running red sand (aka smuggling), there is absolutley no physical connection to jet and any real life drug yet FO still has the warning. being a 'drug' as nothing to do with legality unfortunately it just has to do typically with how the substance is employed and if it alters bodily functions, also it must have a negative view in the publics eye as anti-biotics aren't covered as 'drugs' for some reason. It's not necessarily a mater of How real it is, just how Comparible to real it is and in all MEs thus far there have indeed been drug refrences. no less in ME 1 than in ME 2 as far as i ccan remember.


EDIT: also the ESRB has the same messge on ME 2 >.> http://www.esrb.org/...rtificate=28347 so i have no idea what you are talking about, all the copies of the game i've ever seen have ahd the same warning label as ME 1

Modifié par darth_lopez, 12 décembre 2011 - 10:51 .

[Drunken_Soviet]

What you mean this?

[LPPrince]

Whooooooooa.

Haha, nice.

[Luvinn]

DeathDragon185 wrote...

wait a minute if FOX does **** about it.... doesn't that mean FREE advertising your game? ITS A WIN WIN situation.

Thats what i would think. I bet it would cause more sales of the game rather than lose them.

[kirvingtwo]

darth_lopez wrote...

EDIT: also the ESRB has the same messge on ME 2 >.> http://www.esrb.org/...rtificate=28347 so i have no idea what you are talking about, all the copies of the game i've ever seen have ahd the same warning label as ME 1

I think they were referring to the different rating lables between ME1 and 2 in Australia, regarding drug use.

I don't know why people try to fathom the Australian rating system.  It's just one old monkey in a room pressing random buttons.

[mineralica]

Gorosaur wrote...

Random Nobody wrote...

What was bad about Jack's?

...I think they were all bad, frankly. ME1 was better but not by much. Might be the YouTube proxy affecting my opinion, though.

edit: Actually, I take that back. Jacob's scene. Ye gods.

Jack's romance is the most guilty of the "dry humping/sex with clothes on" complaint. Most of the other romances cut away early enough that the rest can be left to the imagination, but Jacks appears to take place during the actual act, which makes it really damn awkward.

And I still can't figure out what the hell it was - cuddling or... not so cuddling? It's rather strange to watch a cutscene which involves player's character and which introduction was rather obvious and later not have any clue about what just happened.