While being bored the other night, I was trying to figure out the various ages of all my squadmates (mostly tryign to finalize who would "work" as a LI, since I'm totally torn over Tali and Liara) and MOST have their ages clearly defined.
Samara was harder to nail down, but I figure her to be around 750 (makes sense since she's more or less a Martiarch, but not an ancient one).
Wrex, however, really got me guessing.
In ME1, he imples that he got into an agrument over the Krogan Rebellions with his father. This would imply that he was alive around 800 BCE. If THAT's the case, the implication is that Wrex is about 1300 years old (seeing as how ME takes place between 2183 and 2185).
Now, I'm pretty sure that Krogan don't live THAT long. I believe they're the second longest living species in the galaxy, next to the Asari, who typically make it up around 1000. So, help me out here. Am I right? Didn't Wrex say he argued with his father over the Krogan Rebellion? Is this timeline skewed incorrectly?
P.S. Although, as I just noticed, Okeer was supposedly a veteran of the Rebellions and just died in ME2, so maybe I'm wrong...
But, anyway, discuss!!!
So, how old is Wrex?
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Posté 15 décembre 2011 - 05:51
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OK, it wasn't an argument about the Rebellions per se. Those were long over. It was an argument about changing the cultural attitudes/behaviors that caused the Rebellions. I.e., krogan society hadn't really let the war end, and Wrex's dad typified that (so too do Wreav and Uvenk and other modern "traditionalists").
Anyway, we know from this article written by Drew Karpyshyn that Wrex left Tuchanka about 300 years before ME1, which also tells us when that argument (that turned into patricide) occurred. At that time, Wrex was still rather young by krogan standards. No more than a few centuries at most I'd say. So, best guess, I'd say 700 is an upper limit, and 400 a lower. I'd personally bet on somewhere in his 500s.
Anyway, we know from this article written by Drew Karpyshyn that Wrex left Tuchanka about 300 years before ME1, which also tells us when that argument (that turned into patricide) occurred. At that time, Wrex was still rather young by krogan standards. No more than a few centuries at most I'd say. So, best guess, I'd say 700 is an upper limit, and 400 a lower. I'd personally bet on somewhere in his 500s.
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Okeer alone is evidence that krogan can live over 1000 years.
Yet they very, very, very, very, very rarely do, for very understandable cultural reasons. Yaknowhaimsayun?
Yet they very, very, very, very, very rarely do, for very understandable cultural reasons. Yaknowhaimsayun?
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Posté 16 décembre 2011 - 12:27
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didymos1120 wrote...
OK, it wasn't an argument about the Rebellions per se. Those were long over. It was an argument about changing the cultural attitudes/behaviors that caused the Rebellions. I.e., krogan society hadn't really let the war end, and Wrex's dad typified that (so too do Wreav and Uvenk and other modern "traditionalists").
Anyway, we know from this article written by Drew Karpyshyn that Wrex left Tuchanka about 300 years before ME1, which also tells us when that argument (that turned into patricide) occurred. At that time, Wrex was still rather young by krogan standards. No more than a few centuries at most I'd say. So, best guess, I'd say 700 is an upper limit, and 400 a lower. I'd personally bet on somewhere in his 500s.
OK. Nice find. Makes sense.
But I do have to ask that he suggested focusing on breeding for a generation. Wouldn't that imply that it was closer to the Rebellions since that's what they would need to recover from?
I get your argument, but what makes you so sure that Wrex's argument was so much later, AFTER the Krogan Rebellions?
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Okeer alone is evidence that krogan can live over 1000 years.
Yet they very, very, very, very, very rarely do, for very understandable cultural reasons. Yaknowhaimsayun?
Yup. I get you.
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Posté 16 décembre 2011 - 12:57
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Ice Cold J wrote...
I get your argument, but what makes you so sure that Wrex's argument was so much later, AFTER the Krogan Rebellions?
Because we know he left 300 years ago from that article, and we know that argument is why he left because he said so. It's likely the conflict built-up over the course of a couple years, as Wrex started spreading his ideas after becoming a tribal leader, but hundreds of years before it came to a head? Krogan aren't that patient.
Also, you know, he was born after the Rebellions were over.
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Posté 16 décembre 2011 - 01:04
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I'm led to believe Wrex is like 700-800 years old as he seems an elderly Krogan. Obviously not the oldest which would be those few that are 1000 years old. To be frank I'm still at a lost for how Okeer lived during the Rebellions. I always assumed Asari/Krogan couldn't live much past 1000 years.
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I remember ME1's codex on Wrex saying he's *slightly* past his prime physically ("aging warrior", etc.), but more than makes up for it with experience.
The way he talks about Okeer also indicates to me that Okeer is significantly more senior than him. "Okeer is a very old name. A very hated name." instead of "Ah, I remember Okeer..."
He also became a tribal leader "while still a youth – the youngest krogan to be granted the honor in a thousand years." Krogans are known to mature fast compared to their lifespan. Asari, who have similar lifespans, are considered as reaching adulthood by the age of 109 (Liara).
I'd say Wrex became a tribal leader at around 100 years old, killed his father and left Tuchanka when he's 150~200, and was 450~500 years old when he met Shepard. In other words, the comparable age in a Human would be late thirties/early forties.
The impression that Wrex is really old (like >600) comes from the fact that he frequently laments how the Krogan are dying out and he's one of the last to survive. But that doesn't actually mean that he's old. It just means that he survived against the odds.
The way he talks about Okeer also indicates to me that Okeer is significantly more senior than him. "Okeer is a very old name. A very hated name." instead of "Ah, I remember Okeer..."
He also became a tribal leader "while still a youth – the youngest krogan to be granted the honor in a thousand years." Krogans are known to mature fast compared to their lifespan. Asari, who have similar lifespans, are considered as reaching adulthood by the age of 109 (Liara).
I'd say Wrex became a tribal leader at around 100 years old, killed his father and left Tuchanka when he's 150~200, and was 450~500 years old when he met Shepard. In other words, the comparable age in a Human would be late thirties/early forties.
The impression that Wrex is really old (like >600) comes from the fact that he frequently laments how the Krogan are dying out and he's one of the last to survive. But that doesn't actually mean that he's old. It just means that he survived against the odds.
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Posté 16 décembre 2011 - 01:49
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Wrex has a grumbly old man way about him, on top of the deadly mercinary way. I love his character for those reasons, but he appears older than he migh be because of dialogue and attitude.
