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[dragonflight288]

Technically, even in ME2, he never once says the Hanar are working on a cure. He says the brightest medical minds of the Hanar have been unable to treat it. And it's caused because the Drell have too much moisture in their lungs and they didn't evolve to handle that much humidity that the Hanar homeworld has.

He may have been offered treatment, but he was not offered a cure. He knew he was dying and had made peace with it well before he even met Shepard. And besides, he was given three months to live in ME3, 9 months previous. His own exercise and daily treatment on the Citadel helped keep him alive. His was never a story that would end happily.

We know that from the beginning.

[Faceless Minion]

Nay.

There are bigger forces at work than trying to find the cure for a single Drell.

Just let the dude die with some dignity, his death scene is wonderful.

[evil m0nk3y 64]

I don't think that thanes disease should be cured but I do think that if you completed his loyalty mission then he should die like he did, he should survive that and then die of illness near the end of the game

[wildannie]

dragonflight288 wrote...

Technically, even in ME2, he never once says the Hanar are working on a cure. He says the brightest medical minds of the Hanar have been unable to treat it. And it's caused because the Drell have too much moisture in their lungs and they didn't evolve to handle that much humidity that the Hanar homeworld has.

He may have been offered treatment, but he was not offered a cure. He knew he was dying and had made peace with it well before he even met Shepard. And besides, he was given three months to live in ME3, 9 months previous. His own exercise and daily treatment on the Citadel helped keep him alive. His was never a story that would end happily.

We know that from the beginning.

sorry, you are wrong, he does say that they are working on a treatment.  He was eligible for a  Lung transplant (before being romanced) and had refused it.  After falling in love it's hardly a stretch that he may have wished to re-think this.

He is no longer at peace with his death when romanced, it's the core of the romance scene... you really don't know anything about Thane's romance do you?

[Emeraldfern]

Aye for cure!

It's not the fact that Thane can die that bothers me the most but rather that there is no way to save him at all.I support choice in this game particularly when it comes to "squad" characters and nearly everyone else with the exception of Legion, Mordin/Wrex/Wreav and Thane can survive. Legion dies in a truly aweinspiring moment, as do Mordin,
They both sacrifice themselves for entire civilisations whereas Thane dies because of an illness. And for those Shepards who viewed hm as a friend that may be enough.

But it sure isn't for a Shepard that romanced him. Particularly so, because the "punchline" for his romance was precisely the fact that he is no longer defined by his illness.
That's where the problem is. Hell, he even writes that he refuses to die in a hospital. It makes  no sense for him to die in the way he did when you romanced him.

Because basically this is what Sihas get in ME3/Begin Sarcasm:

I tried to message you but somehow they didn't reach you because hey the Alliance think I'm with Cerberus or something!
No I' won't go with you to fight the Reapers cuz I'm sick and you're ok on your own! Btw I will protect Kaidan for you! Despite you telling me of your past with him just now and not even looking me in the eye when you do so!
Oh and yay we make out in hospital lounge!
Oh, and did you say something about a Paramour achievment? kthxbye
Oh hello again! The council is in danger! I'll save the salarian councilor and show off my assassin groove one last time cuz Kai Leng stabs me.
So I go to surgery at the best hospital on the Citadel and yet there is no blood except for Kolyat's and it's not enough!
So goodbye and thanks for nothing! Oh but before I go, a sweet prayer and it's meant for you Shep Awwww.... (and it's completely identical to the one a broshep would get).
And then the rest of the galaxy just forgets me!
Even Garrus, Joker, Tali and Edi does. Oh and then you finally get my letter!
And I get a place on the memorial, and then Shepard forgets about me too!
Yay! My character arc is complete! Because really, there was absolutely nothing else about me that was interesting besides me being sick! /Sarcasm End.

My Shepard's whish to save the galaxy went into dark space when that happened. And is now staying in Life Support to weep. And she's not going anywhere until she can somehow save Thane. Period.

Can any of you honestly tell me that you would not be angry if they did this to Tali/Garrus/Liara/Ashley/Kaidan/Miranda/Jack?
Really?
And can you honestly say it's fair for those who romanced Thane to be slapped in the face like this?
Because of a character continuity that's doesn't even exist when you romance him?

Modifié par Emeraldfern, 19 mars 2012 - 06:41 .

[Navasha]

Nope. Thane was a pretty cliche character IMO. He didn't really add anything to the games for me. Besides, if his condition wasn't terminal it kind of defeats that whole need for him to mope around looking for death.

[Midarenkov]

I thought he ended up dying from swordingut-itis, with Kepral's just complicating it. Maybe I wasn't paying attention though.

[dragonflight288]

sorry, you are wrong, he does say that they are working on a treatment. He was eligible for a Lung transplant (before being romanced) and had refused it. After falling in love it's hardly a stretch that he may have wished to re-think this.

He is no longer at peace with his death when romanced, it's the core of the romance scene... you really don't know anything about Thane's romance do you?smilie

You're right. I don't. I have never romanced Thane. This just goes on to show how varied the game experience can be who have walked different paths. Thanks for letting me know about that. I hadn't previously.

Let me amend my position, in the case of a Shepard who has never romanced Thane, a cure should not be an option at all. His death scene would be cheapened because those (like myself) who never learned that information would find his acceptance of his inevitable demise to be a wonderful part of his character.

I'll have to see his romance scene with Shepard and how much that changes before I speculate any further on that regard, and thereby put my foot in my mouth.

[Super.Sid]

What I didn't understand is "Was he shooting blanks while Kai Leng stabed him"

[JunMadine]

I wasn't fond of Thane's death but it was well written and felt like it worked. This is a war story some losses have to be felt on a personal level. I liked it. Just saying.

[K.iz]

I think it is necessary to add choice function, and all will be happy

(And again I ask to forgive for my English х))

Modifié par K.iz, 19 mars 2012 - 06:50 .

[dragonflight288]

And in real war, we don't get to choose who lives or dies. My personal opinion still stands. But I still thoroughly enjoyed Thane as a character. Great job Bioware.

[Sebbe1337o]

Faceless Minion wrote...

Nay.

There are bigger forces at work than trying to find the cure for a single Drell.

Just let the dude die with some dignity, his death scene is wonderful.

There's actually quite a lot of Drell that suffer from this disease, so many Drell would be happy, maybe that would give a Drell-war asset, or more if there already are some?

I agree that his death scene is really well made.

[Enmystic]

It's sad to see that a choice hadn't been opted for. I think a choice would have given more variety and opportunity to cater to different views on how Thane's story should end.

[aberdash]

You cant cure dead.

[Enmystic]

aberdash wrote...

You cant cure dead.

The beginning of Mass Effect 2 would like to have a word with you.

[aberdash]

Enmystic wrote...

aberdash wrote...

You cant cure dead.

The beginning of Mass Effect 2 would like to have a word with you.

Shepard is mostly synthetic so how do you know s/he isn't just a VI? S/he even wonders about that.

[Lucky Thirteen]

No cure but I would like a life pro-longer.

[Jenlocks]

Doesn't Thane say in ME2 that all drell end up getting Keprals? or maybe just those on the hanar homeworld.. but a cure would do good for gaining war assets..especially for those who don't play multiplayer to get their "effective military strength" up

[Visii]

dragonflight288 wrote...

And in real war, we don't get to choose who lives or dies. My personal opinion still stands. But I still thoroughly enjoyed Thane as a character. Great job Bioware.

You get to choose if-

-Miranda + Kelly are killed by Kai-Leng
- Whether or not to let Samara kill herself
- Whether or not to Save Jack from Grissom academy.
- Whether or not to save Jacob from Cerberus
- Indrectly, with Tali.

Why should everyone else get a chance at being saved but not Thane?

[aberdash]

FallTooDovahkiin wrote...

Hang on a minute. Let me go call the Illusive Man, some scientists, and Miranda.

I will admit shapard is "alive" but only because machines are keep him/her that way.

[Corbinus]

can you honestly say it's fair for those who romanced Thane to be slapped in the face like this?
Because of a character continuity that's doesn't even exist when you romance him?

Yes. I can say it's fair. When you romanced Thane you knew about his condtition. You just chose to ignore it
thinking "They will find a way to cure him,they sure will, he is my love, he cant die!"
Welcome to reality, where **** happens regardless of whether you want it or not.
And don't tell me "Its a game, not reality". I mean it was done to prevent the game from turning into a complete fairy-tale. And it (Thane death) was done well. Get over it.