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[Julia_xo]

There is NO reason why curing Thane or getting him some kind of life-prolonging treatment (lung-transplant) should not be an option. None. Doesn't the game claim to be about choices? Then why pander to the group who want him to die and alienate the half who don't want that?

With a choice, everyone would get what they want.

The people who took the time to romance him are probably the ones most invested in the character. Why should we have to watch him die when we know he was eligible for a lung transplant and we know a cure is being worked on?

Thane's death was handled horribly for those who romanced him. There was barely any acknowledgement of the relationship. Shepard stands there stoically, unable to even tell him she loves him. No one on the ship even mentions his death or his role in saving the Councillor. It was ridiculous.

[Super.Sid]

Shepard is partly synthetic.It is mentioned at the end of the game

[Teddie Sage]

I think he had a good life... But Yay for me.

[lyssalu]

they completely botched his death, among other things. it was embarrassingly bad to watch. it's also pretty messed up that there's no option or player choice there.

[aberdash]

FallTooDovahkiin wrote...

Shepard was rebuilt with Cybernetic implants and all that stuff. I think even reaper technology if I remember someone saying.
But Shepard is still human just with some machine inside.

Kinda like Transformers.

Most functions are being emulated by machines. Bioware is decidedly vague on what exactly happened before his "resurrection" though. Most likely due to the fact it is quite literally impossible to restore a brain to working order.

Modifié par aberdash, 19 mars 2012 - 07:20 .

[Lucky Thirteen]

it's pretty messed up to think the focus of a terminal ill character is there death, not their life.

[G3rman]

Oh boo hoo, a terminally ill Drell who has admitted he's on death's door since ME2 dies. He was too fargone for a proper treatment or cure. People should have accepted it as an inevitability.

He seems quite content with his life, everyone droning on about keeping him alive or treating him don't seem to think about what he wants. You can imply he wants to live longer from what he says in the romance of ME2, but that does not mean he has gone against accepting inevitable death. Let him rest in peace.

What makes it even more laughable is that Shep could have saved him with the synthesis ending, too bad he died before it was ready.

Modifié par G3rman, 19 mars 2012 - 07:22 .

[Subject M]

Nay. Unless it involves

1.Him being LI
2 having access to a protean stasis pod.
3.Shepard being able to survive the finale.

Then you could have an epilogue mentioning that a cure was found a couple of years later and that he was taken out of suspended animation and cured.

I see that as the only viable option unless you want to cheapen the whole thing.

[mnomaha]

dragonflight288 wrote...

sorry, you are wrong, he does say that they are working on a treatment. He was eligible for a Lung transplant (before being romanced) and had refused it. After falling in love it's hardly a stretch that he may have wished to re-think this.

He is no longer at peace with his death when romanced, it's the core of the romance scene... you really don't know anything about Thane's romance do you?smilie

You're right. I don't. I have never romanced Thane. This just goes on to show how varied the game experience can be who have walked different paths. Thanks for letting me know about that. I hadn't previously.

Let me amend my position, in the case of a Shepard who has never romanced Thane, a cure should not be an option at all. His death scene would be cheapened because those (like myself) who never learned that information would find his acceptance of his inevitable demise to be a wonderful part of his character.

I'll have to see his romance scene with Shepard and how much that changes before I speculate any further on that regard, and thereby put my foot in my mouth.

Thank you for having an open mind on this. It's far better than most.

[Corbinus]

Julia_xo wrote...

There is NO reason why curing Thane or getting him some kind of life-prolonging treatment (lung-transplant) should not be an option. None. .

Really? Actually there is. Guess what?
To remind players that some things cannot be changed. Like death. Everyone dies.

Modifié par Corbinus, 19 mars 2012 - 07:27 .

[KroganShields]

I'd say aye but we've missed our chance. Thane took a big part in the storyline of the game and it cannot be changed now.

R.I.P Thane.

[Ghost Warrior]

Nay. Let him rest in peace.

[Enmystic]

aberdash wrote...

Enmystic wrote...

aberdash wrote...

You cant cure dead.

The beginning of Mass Effect 2 would like to have a word with you.

Shepard is mostly synthetic so how do you know s/he isn't just a VI? S/he even wonders about that.

(How do I keep this short...)
Shepard is a hybrid of machine and man.  In a similar sense I can wonder all day about the nature of my existance and the existance of a soul.  In Shepard's position who wouldn't ask themselves the same question? 

However, that doesn't detract from the point that Shepard (in whatever sense) came back.

Anyway, off topic. 

When a character is brought back from the dead, the believability of what is possible within that universe rises.  Thane, at least living to the end of the game, is not that big of stretch in comparison to everything else that's happened in Mass Effect. 

Really? Actually there is. Guess what?
To remind players that some things cannot be changed. Like death. Everyone dies.

Mass Effect is still science fiction and having Thane, at least, recieve treatment would not have taken away from this.

[Julia_xo]

G3rman wrote...

Oh boo hoo, a terminally ill Drell who has admitted he's on death's door since ME2 dies. He was too fargone for a proper treatment or cure. People should have accepted it as an inevitability.

He seems quite content with his life, everyone droning on about keeping him alive or treating him don't seem to think about what he wants. You can imply he wants to live longer from what he says in the romance of ME2, but that does not mean he has gone against accepting inevitable death. Let him rest in peace.

What makes it even more laughable is that Shep could have saved him with the synthesis ending, too bad he died before it was ready.

If he was too far gone why does his medical report state otherwise? The fact that he's eligible for a lung transplant is right there. He DID have an option.

When you talk to Liara in LotSB with a Thane romance active Shepard outright says "Thane's Kepral's isn't bad yet"

While Shepard was incarcerated, he could have undergone the lung transplant, if romanced. Shepard could have still met him in the hospital under the condition that he is recovering from the surgery - not dying.

They could have easily done something like that, but instead it was swept under the carpet in favor of a single forced path. What happened to choice?

And what Thane wants, is time with Shepard and his son. He doesn't want to die.So it's the devs who ignored the climax of his romance arc in ME2 to force a single outcome on the player, regardless of how they interacted with him. How is that good?

[G3rman]

Julia_xo wrote...

If he was too far gone why does his medical report state otherwise? The fact that he's eligible for a lung transplant is right there. He DID have an option.

When you talk to Liara in LotSB with a Thane romance active Shepard outright says "Thane's Kepral's isn't bad yet"

While Shepard was incarcerated, he could have undergone the lung transplant, if romanced. Shepard could have still met him in the hospital under the condition that he is recovering from the surgery - not dying.

They could have easily done something like that, but instead it was swept under the carpet in favor of a single forced path. What happened to choice?

And what Thane wants, is time with Shepard and his son. He doesn't want to die.So it's the devs who ignored the climax of his romance arc in ME2 to force a single outcome on the player, regardless of how they interacted with him. How is that good?

All assuming that the time window for transplants was still open by ME3, his Kepral's shows how far gone it is by saying he was given three months to live 9 months ago.  I'm sure if he wasn't as fit as he was, he would have been dead long before.

Again you are assuming Liara isn't just saying that to comfort you.  People tend to cushion the truth for comfort.  It all comes down to fans scrapping at information and putting it together in a way that makes it seem like Thane has a real chance.

When dealing with life or death in ME you shouldn't and don't always have a choice.  Thane is a reminder of that, fans just don't like their romance being used as that poster boy even though he was always lined up to die.  99% of the time Shepard dies in the end, where is the choice in that? Thane should be the deciding factor in whether he gets to live or die, not Shepard's influence.  They wrote him as taking a peaceful death.

He accepted his fate, why can't the rest of you?

Modifié par G3rman, 19 mars 2012 - 07:40 .

[Ryuu62]

I do!!

[Julia_xo]

Corbinus wrote...

Julia_xo wrote...

There is NO reason why curing Thane or getting him some kind of life-prolonging treatment (lung-transplant) should not be an option. None. .

Really? Actually there is. Guess what?
To remind players that some things cannot be changed. Like death. Everyone dies.

Thane wasn't dead when we met him. Death was a possibility but he had an option available to him that could have prolonged his life. This option was mentioned only to be swept under the carpet.

Also, this is a video game. I've experienced death in my real life. I don't need a video game to "remind" me.

[Enmystic]

G3rman wrote...

Julia_xo wrote...

If he was too far gone why does his medical report state otherwise? The fact that he's eligible for a lung transplant is right there. He DID have an option.

When you talk to Liara in LotSB with a Thane romance active Shepard outright says "Thane's Kepral's isn't bad yet"

While Shepard was incarcerated, he could have undergone the lung transplant, if romanced. Shepard could have still met him in the hospital under the condition that he is recovering from the surgery - not dying.

They could have easily done something like that, but instead it was swept under the carpet in favor of a single forced path. What happened to choice?

And what Thane wants, is time with Shepard and his son. He doesn't want to die.So it's the devs who ignored the climax of his romance arc in ME2 to force a single outcome on the player, regardless of how they interacted with him. How is that good?

All assuming that the time window for transplants was still open by ME3, his Kepral's shows how far gone it is by saying he was given three months to live 9 months ago.  I'm sure if he wasn't as fit as he was, he would have been dead long before.

Again you are assuming Liara isn't just saying that to comfort you.  People tend to cushion the truth for comfort.  It all comes down to fans scrapping at information and putting it together in a way that makes it seem like Thane has a real chance.

When dealing with life or death in ME you shouldn't and don't always have a choice.  Thane is a reminder of that, fans just don't like their romance being used as that poster boy even though he was always lined up to die.  99% of the time Shepard dies in the end, where is the choice in that? Thane should be the deciding factor in whether he gets to live or die, not Shepard's influence.  They wrote him as taking a peaceful death.

He accepted his fate, why can't the rest of you?

I'm not trying to speak for everyone but...  Mostly because some people (myself included) feel that Thane's development during the ME2 romance was thrown out the window in ME3, but that's another story.

Thane did have a chance, however slim it was.  The choice to try and save Thane could've been handled a lot of different ways.  It not as black and white as you make it sound.

[G3rman]

Enmystic wrote...


I'm not trying to speak for everyone but...  Mostly because some people (myself included) feel that Thane's development during the ME2 romance was thrown out the window in ME3, but that's another story.

Thane did have a chance, however slim it was.  The choice to try and save Thane could've been handled a lot of different ways.  It not as black and white as you make it sound.

No offense but I see it as just misguided fan optimism.

They take some implications given in-game and run with it to save their favorite character.

Have fun with your headcanon, its all you are going to get.

[Enmystic]

G3rman wrote...

Enmystic wrote...


I'm not trying to speak for everyone but...  Mostly because some people (myself included) feel that Thane's development during the ME2 romance was thrown out the window in ME3, but that's another story.

Thane did have a chance, however slim it was.  The choice to try and save Thane could've been handled a lot of different ways.  It not as black and white as you make it sound.

No offense but I see it as just misguided fan optimism.

They take some implications given in-game and run with it to save their favorite character.

Have fun with your headcanon, its all you are going to get.

You say "no offense", but I still feel like I'm having my intelligence insulted.

"Misguided fan optimism"?  Judging from Thane's development (if romanced) I really didn't and still don't see a problem with offering a choice.  Like I already stated, choices can offer plenty of outcomes.  People here already have differing opinions over Thane's character to begin with.

Besides who wouldn't want to save a character they care about?  Grim situation or not it's not wrong to think or to try and do so.  I think players should have been allowed to try.

Modifié par Enmystic, 19 mars 2012 - 08:05 .

[LucyMaire]

YAY!! At least for LI's please

[K.iz]

I agree. There should be a choice that will leave happy both parties.

Modifié par K.iz, 19 mars 2012 - 08:09 .

[BillsVengenace]

I'd like a cure for his sickeningly cliche death scene.

[G3rman]

There is no try in video games. Players would be more outraged if they get a choice to try and save him and it fails, regardless.