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[CerberusSoldier]

DxWill10 wrote...

While I do agree wholeheartedly supporting Cerberus is silly, I would enjoy more of a moral gray area type of situation in ME3 than a 100% evil must kill faction. Things would certainly be more interesting.

Ultimately it all rides on TIM i think. Either he's going to be indoctrinated/swayed,etc to be a 100% bad saren-like antagonist, or he may serve another purpose. I think a more interesting plot line would involve something other than just a simple Saren clone villain. Or at least saving that total cross over til the end or something.

While cerberus is undoubtedly the bad guys, hopefully TIM's character will hold a little more interesting story telling.

   


Its clear the majority here on BSN got their little wish in 3 but oh no instead of letting things go people like the Op bring it back up or like the other thread about the base decision . BSN wants to keep this war going well fine its on and we will see come ME 3 . you pro alliance fans want you war well then its war you will get

[Ravensword]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

DxWill10 wrote...

While I do agree wholeheartedly supporting Cerberus is silly, I would enjoy more of a moral gray area type of situation in ME3 than a 100% evil must kill faction. Things would certainly be more interesting.

Ultimately it all rides on TIM i think. Either he's going to be indoctrinated/swayed,etc to be a 100% bad saren-like antagonist, or he may serve another purpose. I think a more interesting plot line would involve something other than just a simple Saren clone villain. Or at least saving that total cross over til the end or something.

While cerberus is undoubtedly the bad guys, hopefully TIM's character will hold a little more interesting story telling.

   


Its clear the majority here on BSN got their little wish in 3 but oh no instead of letting things go people like the Op bring it back up or like the other thread about the base decision . BSN wants to keep this war going well fine its on and we will see come ME 3 . you pro alliance fans want you war well then its war you will get

What the hell are you talking about?

[Drone223]

DxWill10 wrote...

While I do agree wholeheartedly supporting Cerberus is silly, I would enjoy more of a moral gray area type of situation in ME3 than a 100% evil must kill faction. Things would certainly be more interesting.

Ultimately it all rides on TIM i think. Either he's going to be indoctrinated/swayed,etc to be a 100% bad saren-like antagonist, or he may serve another purpose. I think a more interesting plot line would involve something other than just a simple Saren clone villain. Or at least saving that total cross over til the end or something.

While cerberus is undoubtedly the bad guys, hopefully TIM's character will hold a little more interesting story telling.

I think the Reaper's in some way are part of TIM's plan for human dominance, and if Shepard is trying to stop the Reaper's TIM will try and kill Shepard before (s)he defeats the Reaper's

[Ravensword]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

DxWill10 wrote...

While I do agree wholeheartedly supporting Cerberus is silly, I would enjoy more of a moral gray area type of situation in ME3 than a 100% evil must kill faction. Things would certainly be more interesting.

Ultimately it all rides on TIM i think. Either he's going to be indoctrinated/swayed,etc to be a 100% bad saren-like antagonist, or he may serve another purpose. I think a more interesting plot line would involve something other than just a simple Saren clone villain. Or at least saving that total cross over til the end or something.

While cerberus is undoubtedly the bad guys, hopefully TIM's character will hold a little more interesting story telling.

   


Its clear the majority here on BSN got their little wish in 3 but oh no instead of letting things go people like the Op bring it back up or like the other thread about the base decision . BSN wants to keep this war going well fine its on and we will see come ME 3 . you pro alliance fans want you war well then its war you will get

What the hell are you talking about?

Ignore him. All of his posts are like that. I swear he just takes the same half-dozen sentences and just shuffles the words around; all the posts look almost identical.

I know, but I'm curious to see him back up his statements, otherwise they just show that he is an angry person w/ a poor grasp of grammar and spelling.

[CerberusSoldier]

You know me and other Cerberus fans are sick of seeing threads like this and the other one pop now what is with you pro alliance fan boys not happy with your crying you did during 2 that got ME 3 to be this way so now you still want to discuss this . Oh I know BSN is clearly a alliance fan zone thats fine.

[capn233]

Saphra Deden wrote...

What exactly was it in the books that made you think Cerberus would side with the Reapers?

As far as I recall, there is no evidence in the currently released books that Cerberus would side with the Reapers... especially since everything they did was to prepare to wage war against them from experiments on the human biotics to even implanting Grayson.

Not that I was asked this question.

I don't really want to know (since I don't like spoilers) but is Cerberus definitely working with the Reapers in 3?  If they were just working against "Galactic Unity" and had a grudge against Shep then I would be somewhat ok with them as the enemies.  TIM doing an about face is somewhat annoying.

When does the next book come out, and is it going to answer this?

[Drone223]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

You know me and other Cerberus fans are sick of seeing threads like this and the other one pop now what is with you pro alliance fan boys not happy with your crying you did during 2 that got ME 3 to be this way so now you still want to discuss this . Oh I know BSN is clearly a alliance fan zone thats fine.

Shepard was just another puppet for TIM its pretty obvious and many people such as the VS, Tali, Garrus etc warned Shepard that (s)he will get betrayed by Cerberus 

[Ravensword]

CerberusSoldier wrote...

You know me and other Cerberus fans are sick of seeing threads like this and the other one pop now what is with you pro alliance fan boys not happy with your crying you did during 2 that got ME 3 to be this way so now you still want to discuss this . Oh I know BSN is clearly a alliance fan zone thats fine.

[Dave of Canada]

capn233 wrote...

I don't really want to know (since I don't like spoilers) but is Cerberus definitely working with the Reapers in 3?  If they were just working against "Galactic Unity" and had a grudge against Shep then I would be somewhat ok with them as the enemies.  TIM doing an about face is somewhat annoying.

They have a worthy goal they're trying to achieve, they're just going about it completely wrong and have turned into mustache twirling villains that kick puppies with a dash of indoctrination.

[HowlHowl]

Guys, CerberusSoldier is a troll. Not in the sense that he's an ass, but in the sense that his is a fake account made to subvert the forums with nonsense.

On topic, derp. My Shepard is a borderline sociopath and is more disturbed by TIM's less-than-pragmatic methods than their moral direction.

[HowlHowl]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

HowlHowl wrote...

Guys, CerberusSoldier is a troll. Not in the sense that he's an ass, but in the sense that his is a fake account made to subvert the forums with nonsense.

No, I'm pretty sure he's for real. Sadly enough.

There's no way a serious person is composing those awful responses. Does not compute.

[FoxShadowblade]

HowlHowl wrote...
 subvert the forums with nonsense..

Is it possible to fill these forums with more nonsense?

What's one minus a turd?

Damnit! Only BSN could screw up math!

[firefireblow]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

HowlHowl wrote...

Guys, CerberusSoldier is a troll. Not in the sense that he's an ass, but in the sense that his is a fake account made to subvert the forums with nonsense.

No, I'm pretty sure he's for real. Sadly enough.

He is real in the sense a troll(other troll) is real; it's there somewheres, but where? Up high on the mountain top. That's where you find him.

[MatronAdena]

Saphra Deden wrote...

MatronAdena wrote...

I read the books, that filled in more than enough for me to not be shocked in the slightest...

What exactly was it in the books that made you think Cerberus would side with the Reapers?

it's not working "with" that I'm refering too... I'm speaking more along the lines of their tinkering and experiments with reper tech, getting in contact with the reaper mass collective mind.

look at what they did with Grayson...

there is a very very very good likelyhood that an experiment could have opened a pandora's box so to speak and created a situation they are unaware of, nor able to deal with. Cerberus has many times in the past lost control of experiments that spiraled out of control and beyond their ability to contend with.

so that is more the direction I'm going with that. Yes the books have actually made me like them less and less and less for many reasons, but it also showed they still like playing with things they may not have a firm grasp on, and thats when bad things can happen, more so when reapers are involved.

[armass]

Cerberus as it is now is an embarrasment to the human race and will meet it's deserved demise in ME3.

Modifié par armass, 15 décembre 2011 - 09:41 .

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Saphra Deden wrote...

MatronAdena wrote...

I read the books, that filled in more than enough for me to not be shocked in the slightest...

What exactly was it in the books that made you think Cerberus would side with the Reapers?

Aaaand that wins the thread.



But seriously, it's a very large plot hole at this point without an explaination of what happened between ME2 and 3.  Nothing explains anything at this point regarding Cerberus and Shepard being enemies for pro-Cerberus or Base-keeping Shepards.

The only consistent angle is the Paragon ending (surprise surprise) where Shepard is told at the offset that Cerberus would be after him in ME3.  No other ending ties as smoothly into the next game as the Paragon ending.  So at this point, it's simply more Paragon favoritism... what else can be said?

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 15 décembre 2011 - 10:08 .

[Lotion Soronarr]

Darth_Trethon wrote...
They brought you back for a reason and at least partially you have fullfilled it but yes they DID turn on you fast and in a hurry....they sure didn't waste any seconds once you've completed your assigned task before attacking you. But yes, their actionns don't fit I'll give you that...why attack before the reapers were defeated instead of after....this makes no sense.

I was reffering to people calling Cerberus betrayers, yet there were no instances of them betraying.
The Collector ship bt.w. is not betrayl.

As for the alliance doing horrible experiments.....I don't know of anything remotely close to what cerberus has done. They had L2 implants and BAAT camps but they still don't measure. As I've said....they have more restraints....not necesarily because they want to but to maintain the image of trustworthyness.

The illegal AI research they did?
Then the whole hints at many others shadowy things all factions do trough their proxies/black ops.
Or maybe that Asari specter who had interesting things to say abotu the Council..

I guess all those are nothing.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Ravensword wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

You know me and other Cerberus fans are sick of seeing threads like this and the other one pop now what is with you pro alliance fan boys not happy with your crying you did during 2 that got ME 3 to be this way so now you still want to discuss this . Oh I know BSN is clearly a alliance fan zone thats fine.

Seriously. You keep popping into discussions, posting pictures and making snide remarks.
That's all I've seen you do for weeks.

Troll.




EDIT:

The more I read the spoliers/script, the more I hate ME3 plot.

Apparenlty everything is now Cerberuses fault. Retroactively.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 15 décembre 2011 - 11:31 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

CerberusSoldier wrote...

You know me and other Cerberus fans are sick of seeing threads like this and the other one pop now what is with you pro alliance fan boys not happy with your crying you did during 2 that got ME 3 to be this way so now you still want to discuss this . Oh I know BSN is clearly a alliance fan zone thats fine.

Seriously. You keep popping into discussions, posting pictures and making snide remarks.
That's all I've seen you do for weeks.

Troll.




EDIT:

The more I read the spoliers/script, the more I hate ME3 plot.

Apparenlty everything is now Cerberuses fault. Retroactively.

Awesome.