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 I noticed one for Versus XIII and I figured this should be here too.

Discuss. 

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The the sequel to arguably the worst game to bear the final fantasy namesake...I'm even including those Crystal Chronicles Bastardizations in this....and we all know how much better sequels tend to be relative to the original....lets use FFX-2 as an example.

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DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

The the sequel to arguably the worst game to bear the final fantasy namesake...I'm even including those Crystal Chronicles Bastardizations in this....and we all know how much better sequels tend to be relative to the original....lets use FFX-2 as an example.


Dem be fightin' words. But in honesty, XIII is one of my favorite games, FF or otherwise, but your opinion is common enough that I can't really rage about it. 

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Final Fantasy Versus XIII is not even a sequel. It is a new and original game on its own as part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis series.

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MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is not even a sequel. It is a new and original game on its own as part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis series.


It's a seperate story that takes place in the same universe as XIII, XIII-2, and XIII Agito. But it's in some other time era. 

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Ya its just an opinion, if people like XIII for what it is, I can't hate on them for having a different perspective, as I have said before, the game itself isn't a bad RPG, kept me entertained for a fair amount of time (beat it 100%, achievements and all), but its garbage in my books in terms of relative to other FFs and what I consider high quality RPGs/JRPGs.

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Ghost Lightning wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is not even a sequel. It is a new and original game on its own as part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis series.


It's a seperate story that takes place in the same universe as XIII, XIII-2, and XIII Agito. But it's in some other time era. 


Final Fantasy Versus XIII takes place in neither Pulse, nor Cocoon. It is specifically a "Fantasy based on reality." 
A different world, etc. The tech in Versus is in resemblence to most of ours irl.

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DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Ya its just an opinion, if people like XIII for what it is, I can't hate on them for having a different perspective, as I have said before, the game itself isn't a bad RPG, kept me entertained for a fair amount of time (beat it 100%, achievements and all), but its garbage in my books in terms of relative to other FFs and what I consider high quality RPGs/JRPGs.


Well for me I went into it with absolutely no knowledge of what it was. I had played FFVII and FFX and the kingdom hearts games but that was it in terms of my FF experience. So I actually liked a lot of the mainly criticized points. Like *puts on flame shield* the linearity. I actually liked the story enough that I liked that you went from story point to story point with the fun combat system to entertain you in between the points. But then again, that's just me. 

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Opinions are bullcrap! haven't you confronted with this fact yet?!

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Ghost Lightning wrote...

DRUNK_CANADIAN wrote...

Ya its just an opinion, if people like XIII for what it is, I can't hate on them for having a different perspective, as I have said before, the game itself isn't a bad RPG, kept me entertained for a fair amount of time (beat it 100%, achievements and all), but its garbage in my books in terms of relative to other FFs and what I consider high quality RPGs/JRPGs.


Well for me I went into it with absolutely no knowledge of what it was. I had played FFVII and FFX and the kingdom hearts games but that was it in terms of my FF experience. So I actually liked a lot of the mainly criticized points. Like *puts on flame shield* the linearity. I actually liked the story enough that I liked that you went from story point to story point with the fun combat system to entertain you in between the points. But then again, that's just me. 


A trend I noticed is that FFXIII was mostly popular with people not overly familiar with the FF franchise (like yourself who have played a couple of FF games prior), or the younger generation (perhaps because I honestly believe youth these days have lesser imaginations due to technology and thus lack the sort of exploratory...damn it I'm rambling). Back to point, essentially people who liked it fell into the above catagories mostly, with of course those who defend it simply for being a FF (fanboys do exist :P) and those who liked the battle system, which I admit was one of the reasons I actually didn't toss it out the window after playing 20+ hours of running in straight line. Actually the guy who did Zero Punctuation who reviewed it did a pretty fair assessment on it I believe for once (he tears games to crap intentionally though). Anyhow overall you can like it, I can say its crap compared to other FF games...on the topic of XIII-2 ...I seriously doubt I'll even pick it up...maybe once its been out for a while I'll grab a used copy...maybe (but I have no "hype" for it to be sure.)

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I'm excited for XIII-2 (preordered the CE) but from the looks of it they basically went in and changed everything people didn't like. Which for me could be good or bad cause I liked some of the stuff :P

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^ Or changed the stuff that we liked. Like, added random encounters again (WHYYYYYYYYYY) and only two people in the party.

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...nah, I'm not big on recent Final Fantasy titles (other than the FFIV remake for DS), so I'll be skipping this one (and probably most other future FF games that aren't remakes of FFVI and FFVII).

You can say I'm stuck in the past if you'd like, but I doubt few will argue against older titles being vastly superior to Square's latest offerings.

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^ Or changed the stuff that we liked. Like, added random encounters again (WHYYYYYYYYYY) and only two people in the party.


Those things perplex me. Random encounters are just annoying at times, like pokemon. And the two person party thing with a summoned creature really bothers me. I wanted to see other characters be playable, like y'know, the ones from XIII. But I guess We'll just have to wait and see.

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Ghost Lightning wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is not even a sequel. It is a new and original game on its own as part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis series.


It's a seperate story that takes place in the same universe as XIII, XIII-2, and XIII Agito. But it's in some other time era. 

It's not a sequel or a prequel though, regardless of when it might take place. Kind of like how Skyrim isn't a sequel to Oblivion.

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Ghost Lightning wrote...

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...

Final Fantasy Versus XIII is not even a sequel. It is a new and original game on its own as part of the Fabula Nova Crystallis series.


It's a seperate story that takes place in the same universe as XIII, XIII-2, and XIII Agito. But it's in some other time era. 

It's not a sequel or a prequel though, regardless of when it might take place. Kind of like how Skyrim isn't a sequel to Oblivion.


Exactly. I assume it's probably set in the past though, cause the tech they have looks less advanced (wheeled cars and modern architecture) 

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Actually I may be incorrect in this but I'm pretty sure the devs clarified that vsXIII wasn't in the same timeline as XIII, they only carried over the crystals and some concepts over, now this is going back like almost 1.5 years for me so its hard to say if I remember correctly, but they are pretty much exclusive from one another if I recall correctly...

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They are both in the "Fabula Nova Crystal"-whatever universe. that much is true.

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"Final Fantasy Versus XIII is, according to its developers, a wholly independent story unfolding with different characters and a different visual design. Although it is set within the same Final Fantasy XIII universe, it is unrelated to any other entry within the series and is thus neither a sequel nor a prequel to any other entries in the Fabula Nova Crystallis: Final Fantasy series"

"Keep in mind, that Final Fantasy XIII is not a prequel or sequel to the other two FFXIII titles in the traditional sense. As Square Enix explained, the trio is linked through a common mythology but do not have any common characters, worlds, or stories. They all take place in the same universe, but aren't related to each other directly. "

Sources IGN and wiki http://uk.ps3.ign.co...5/705978p1.html

Is my memory impressive or what...look at the date on that crap lol (I surprise myself sometimes).

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^ rofl

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They are both in the "Fabula Nova Crystal"-whatever universe. that much is true.


It's more of the same Mythology about the godess Etro and whatnot.
Pre-Odered CE as well. 

Badass soundtrack.


I hate how people think(I know this does not apply to everyone) that if they have played ALL FF games up to date they think there opinions are better than those who haven't played all FF games.It pisses me offf to no end. This game will be awesome and I hope the rumor is true that FFXIII-3 will be made(which will make it the first FF trilogy)

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That WOULD be cool if there was a trilogy...but I'm not sure there's enough to justify it. I mean, FFXIII really could have been a single game and it would have felt "complete."

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That WOULD be cool if there was a trilogy...but I'm not sure there's enough to justify it. I mean, FFXIII really could have been a single game and it would have felt "complete."


I agree with this completely. I was actually kinda upset when they said they were making a sequel but then I was like "more....XIII...WANT"

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Ghost Lightning wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

That WOULD be cool if there was a trilogy...but I'm not sure there's enough to justify it. I mean, FFXIII really could have been a single game and it would have felt "complete."


I agree with this completely. I was actually kinda upset when they said they were making a sequel but then I was like "more....XIII...WANT"


yeah I was afraid they were going to **** up the bittersweet ending. but hey Japan wanted a sequel here it is. tormorrow the japanese will be playing this game and I envy them......:(.

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DeathDragon185 wrote...

Ghost Lightning wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

That WOULD be cool if there was a trilogy...but I'm not sure there's enough to justify it. I mean, FFXIII really could have been a single game and it would have felt "complete."


I agree with this completely. I was actually kinda upset when they said they were making a sequel but then I was like "more....XIII...WANT"


yeah I was afraid they were going to **** up the bittersweet ending. but hey Japan wanted a sequel here it is. tormorrow the japanese will be playing this game and I envy them......:(.


And they also get ANOTHER special Lightning Edition PS3. This time in black. Confound developers catering to there own country D:<

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