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[Storm Farron]

*sigh*

ok I am going to say this one more time.

Lightning may not be playable for most of the game, however she is still an important part of the story. ok? wait are you saying Villains have no part in the story because you can't play as them.

[Arcadian Legend]

jesuno wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

jesuno wrote...

"a lot of people who dislike it are bandwagon jumpers who disliked the game before they even played it"

I enjoy when this excuse comes up to write off anyone that has complaints on a sacred cow or his favorite game. For so background, I started with Final Fantasy on the NES and played all of the main series that came to the USA. I choose the PS3 over the 360 for Final Fantasy 13 (this was long before it was announced as a multiplatform title). So, yeah I was a FF fanboy.

While no FF is perfect and has everything (except of 6), 13 had the worst of almost everything. Worst written and spoken dialogue, music, characters, pacing, storytelling, battle system, and so forth. CGI was too much a crotch in the game, and the person that decided that if the main character dies than it is game over hopefully retired and will never work in gaming again. No one ever said no one has no genuine opinions

So how does SE fix this, oh they add QTEs. Fair enough, that ups the player's involvement in battle another 1%. By adding Noel and Serah as the main characters, and leaving the third for a monster. Ok, Nomura is stuck in a rut, creating the same characters over and over again. Hopefully he departs soon.

Oh, and reports form another site from someone that imported the game and finished it, Lightning isn't even playable. Seems like SE was just using her as a marketing tool to get the fans' nether regions all a tingle.

First things first, he said a lot, not all are bandwagoners. Nothing was said about there was no one who genuinely disliked XIII.  Second Nomura had next to nothing to do with XIII and XIII-2, That's Motomu Toriyama. Nomura has currently got his hands full with VsXIII and Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance. 

From the Wikia:
FF 13, Character designer: Tetsuya Nomura
FF 13-2, Character Design (Playable Character Faces): Tetsuya Nomura

If you notice, I placed his name next to my bit about character designs.

Oh, I see where you are coming from now.  He did have a hand in designing the characters for XIII, in XIII-2 the charaacter designer is Hideo Minaba who did the designs for FFIX. As you can see there Nomura merely did just the face designs for Serah and Noel.

[Boiny Bunny]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Rojahar wrote...

Something I think is a nice touch with FF13-2 is how the NPCs behave. I noticed when I used Mog's treasure scan, NPCs would start running away, crying "What is that!? Magic!?" I'd love little things like that in Bioware games.

As for the "FF is going downhill!" convo, people have been saying that since FF7, and frankly I'm sure they would have been saying it earlier if the internet had been mainstream back when FF2 came out on the Famicom. So which is the worst game, again? FF7? 8? 9? 10? 11? 12? 13? The opinion seems to generally be reliant on when someone joined the series. "My first FF was 6! It was the best! 7 was when the series went downhill!" "My first FF was 10! It was the best! 11 was when the series went downhill!" /eyeroll

The whole "Back in my day, everything was better... You kids nowadays suck!" cliche has been overused for centuries, if not millennia. You see it in every game series, and in everything from walking to school and back both ways uphill in the snow to music.

I agree with you, Rojahar.

Same. Don't really fall in the genreal category though. Started the series with VII, yet VIII and IX are my favourites followed XII and XIII. The full order of preference goes something like this. IX=VIII>XIII=XII>VII=IV=VI>>>X>V>X-2>III=I>>>>II

Haven't played XI and XIV and obviously full XIII-2 yet so I can't add them. Like all of them with the exception of say II.

I also agree that many fans seem to think in this way.  I started with FFIV on the SNES when I was quite young, and have now played most of them.  My favorite is actually VI.  The order after that is all over the place.

Funnily enough, I loved FFII - yes - it certainly had a weird levelling system, but in the end it just meant more grinding than usual, which doesn't seem like that big a deal.  It had a very impressive soundtrack, and a much better plot than its predecessor or successor.

Not sure if this is true or not - but I've heard from a few separate places now, that the famous music piece 'To Zanarkand' from FFX was actually composed as a track for FFII originally, but not used in the game for one reason or another.  Instead it was shelved until another game with a depressing enough storyline came along, and appeared 8 fantasies later.

[Boiny Bunny]

Also, pretty sure Nomura did all the characters in FFXIII - SE decided that he was so important, he deserved his own credit on the main game title screen (the only named designer on that screen) - google FFXIII main title screen.

[Arcadian Legend]

 Huh, no way. To Zanarkand does sound like something from II, A good example would be II,s Main theme when you think about it.

[Storm Farron]

To Zanarkand is easily one of the best soundtracks of the entire series

Modifié par Storm Farron, 19 janvier 2012 - 12:55 .

[Boiny Bunny]

Storm Farron wrote...

To Zanarkand is easily one of the best soundtracks of the entire series

Agreed.  One of my favorites, along with Dancing Mad (FF6), and a few others (I was going to write them out...but realised that there are quite a few...and I could almost start a thread about FF music)

[jesuno]

@Arcadian Legend

Nomura was the lead designer for 13, and is credited in 13-2 because most of his characters retain the same face with different hair and clothes. To those individuals, I have to credit them for making Snow look like more of a douchebag child molester

@Storm Farron

"Lightning may not be playable for most of the game, however she is still an important part of the story. ok? wait are you saying Villains have no part in the story because you can't play as them."

Wait, are you honestly comparing a new villain's appearance to Square Enix sticking the the main character of the previous installment on the front of the game box, advertising, a limited edition playstation 3, and the FIRST video of the game? Seriously? Nevermind, just looked at your name.

[Ghost Lightning]

 Just heard this song from the OST for the first time. I lol'd so hard XD

Crazy Chocobo

[Arcadian Legend]

jesuno wrote...

@Arcadian Legend

Nomura was the lead designer for 13, and is credited in 13-2 because most of his characters retain the same face with different hair and clothes. To those individuals, I have to credit them for making Snow look like more of a douchebag child molester

@Storm Farron

"Lightning may not be playable for most of the game, however she is still an important part of the story. ok? wait are you saying Villains have no part in the story because you can't play as them."

Wait, are you honestly comparing a new villain's appearance to Square Enix sticking the the main character of the previous installment on the front of the game box, advertising, a limited edition playstation 3, and the FIRST video of the game? Seriously? Nevermind, just looked at your name.

Snow DOES kind of have a hobo look to him now. XD

[RPGamer13]

He looked like one before, not much difference there.

Storm Farron wrote...

*sigh*

ok I am going to say this one more time.

Lightning may not be playable for most of the game, however she is still an important part of the story. ok? wait are you saying Villains have no part in the story because you can't play as them.

I don't care if she's part of the story, I wanted to be able to use her and Fang in combat for at least 90% of the game.

[Teddie Sage]

^ Then play the original game and stop whining. Problem solved.

Can't believe it, but I sold a bunch of my old games before yesterday and I now have 180$ of credits at my local gaming store. This means one thing: Final Fantasy XIII-2 and Kingdoms of Amalur - Reckoning will be free purchases. This also means I'll be able to help my family more this month with the food and emergencies. I hope these games will be worth it for all the trouble I get through to get them.

[Teddie Sage]

Here's a new Let's Play series.



Already 6 parts online.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 29 janvier 2012 - 11:31 .

[Ronnel]

Final Fantasy XIII-2 scores from different sites!

1UP – B/A+
CVG – 7.7/10
Daily Echo – 9/10
Daily Star – 90/100
Destructoid – 8/10
Digital Spy – 4/5
DIY Games – 8/10
Edge (magazine) – 6/10
Eurogamer – 8/10
Game Informer – 8/10
GameSpot – 7.5/10
GamesRadar – 9/10
GameTrailers – 8.8/10
IGN – 8/10
IncGamers – 8/10
InTheGame – 8/10
Joystiq – 3/5
JustPushStart – 4/5
Machinima – 9/10
Mirror – 4/5
NowGamer – 8/10
Official PlayStation Magazine UK – 8/10
Official Xbox Magazine (magazine) – 9/10
Official Xbox Magazine UK – 8/10
Platinum Hits- 9.1/10
Playstation Lifestyle – 5/10 (Import)
PlayStation: The Official Magazine (magazine) – 8/10
Play UK (magazine) – 80/100
RPGSite – 80/100
RPGSite – 80/100 (Import)
VideoGamer – 8/10
Wired UK – 7/10
X360 Magazine UK (magazine) – 90/100

Well the average score is 8 not bad at all.

[Ronnel]

jreezy wrote...

According to GI XIII-2 ends on a cliff hanger. FF XIII-3 is inevitable. Does anyone actually think this recent installment is good enough for a second direct sequel?

Screw the fans, SE sure loves XIII.

Modifié par Ronnel, 30 janvier 2012 - 09:58 .

[Arcadian Legend]

jreezy wrote...

Ronnel wrote...

jreezy wrote...

According to GI XIII-2 ends on a cliff hanger. FF XIII-3 is inevitable. Does anyone actually think this recent installment is good enough for a second direct sequel?

Screw the fans, SE sure loves XIII.

Screw the fans indeed. Where the hell is the FFVII remake that people have been asking for?

I bet they've been secretly working on it all this time, only to go SURPRISE! > when it is finished. xD I'm telling you now, VsXIII is just a front for Nomura and team to work on VII remake undetterred. Why do you think after all this time, we still only know so much about it when XIII is already out and it's sequel is already out in Japan?

Another thing to bring up is VsXIII's battle system. Nomura based it on the Kingdom Hearts series so it could be developed quickly. The sooner that the decoy game had been worked on enough they stopped development on it, and started on the VII remake, filtering bits of info on VsXIII throughot the years to keep people transfixed on it, only to go and shock everyone with a whirlwind of an ad campagn for Re: FFVII releasing it worldwide a week later. Those clever bastards.

Modifié par Arcadian Legend, 30 janvier 2012 - 12:56 .

[Druss99]

jreezy wrote...

Ronnel wrote...

jreezy wrote...

According to GI XIII-2 ends on a cliff hanger. FF XIII-3 is inevitable. Does anyone actually think this recent installment is good enough for a second direct sequel?

Screw the fans, SE sure loves XIII.

Screw the fans indeed. Where the hell is the FFVII remake that people have been asking for?

Do you honestly trust SE to do it justice? As much as I'd like to see it, I'm also terrified of what SE would turn it into.

Modifié par Druss99, 30 janvier 2012 - 04:12 .

[Teddie Sage]

Square Enix said that they will never do the remake because it would take more than a decade to do so and I'm happy about that. "Don't waste your time on stuff while you could be making cash on new things", that's their mentality.

[jesuno]

jreezy wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

Square Enix said that they will never do the remake because it would take more than a decade to do so and I'm happy about that. "Don't waste your time on stuff while you could be making cash on new things", that's their mentality.

But their new stuff seems to be less than stellar.

Yeah, they made Mindjack. Quality seems to be a high priority for SE.

I looked at Destructod, because in my opinion, Jim Sterling was one of the few reviewers that was not afraid to call FF 13 out for being the massive pile of excremernt that it was, but he didn't review this one. Instead, we have someone that writes this: 

"Shopping in Final Fantasy XIII-2 is really weird; you won't
find the traditional RPG town store here. Instead you'll find a being
that looks to be part human female, part Chocobo, with plenty of exposed
skin, but feathers covering her crotch, breasts and arms. Oh, and her
hat appears to be a dead chocobo head. She calls herself Chobolina and
she travels through time to be right where you need her when you need
her most. She sells typical healing items as well as weapons and
upgrades. Her prices never change and the selection rarely does either,
but what she has to say to you every time you encounter her does, and
it's almost always hilarious. Sometimes she screams "Choco-boco-lina"
when you see her. Other times she becomes philosophical and talks about
how she's not quite human. It's almost as if Square Enix is using
Chobolina to apologize for how terrible shopping was in Final Fantasy XIII. The real gift from Square Enix comes when the inevitable Chobolina cosplay trend begins this year."

From what I have seen, that character is massively annoying a la Vanille, so I am pretty sure I cannot take anything he says at face value. As for the apology, try restoring some dignity to the FF series.

[Teddie Sage]

Real Ending in English



Spoilers, obviously.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 31 janvier 2012 - 01:44 .