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Hey, all game franchises lose steam sooner or later (if they even had any in the first place) - even the ones we all know and love. I wouldn't sweat it too much.

...I would like a half-decent remake of FFVII, though. People have been clamoring for one for years since Square made the mistake of showing a PS3 tech demo using the game's opening scene, and I say they should give 'em what they want. I'd certainly be down for a good remake (especially with realistic looking characters and a better translated script - both of which the original lacked).

Add V, Vi and VIII too I like IX the best but it needs no remake as of now.

Still a VII remake would be great  as long as the don't mess up the gameplay or cut out anything that made VII good(Cloud's odd date thing and when he was fun, oh and the way Cid talks).

Oh and by the way I don't think I need to play FFXIII-2(but I will:unsure:) since it looks like what XIII should of been and still looks like it has the bad "gameplay"(if you want to call it that) of XIII.

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 next part

 

god I want this game so bad.

I hope SE NEVER remakes FFVII, ever. In my opinion that game was absolute ****.

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FFVII is perfect the way it is, on PSone. I don't want an HD remake. I'm sick of Square-Enix milking that story. I'm glad they're exploring more options in Pulse & Cocoon instead.

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Yeah Dancing Mad is great.

The last good final boos theme FF had in my view was this.



If only because it is odd but fits.

Oh and Moondoggie I don't want VI or VII again I just want to have good remixes of good old music(I am all for new stuff) just not that thing.



I dunno, the Seymour Omnis battle theme, the battle theme with Braska's Final Aeon -- forget the name. Was it Overworld? --, and the theme with Yu Yevon were pretty badass themes imo. I think they were probably the best.

I have to say that FFX had the best soundtrack out of all the games imo, though FFXIII's and FFXII's were pretty good imo.

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Oh and by the way I don't think I need to play FFXIII-2(but I will:unsure:) since it looks like what XIII should of been and still looks like it has the bad "gameplay"(if you want to call it that) of XIII.


From what I can tell all they did was make it so if the party leader dies, it's not game over, and added Quick Time Events.  To me, the only reason I thought XIII's combat was so bad is because once the leader died it meant game over.

Also, they could have made a third option in between the two speeds.  It was either way too fast for me or way too slow.

greengoron89 wrote...

I like IX the best but it needs no remake as of now.


Sure it does.  They could make the character sprites look how they did in the CG scenes.  Out of all of them, I'd love to see IX the most.  They could even make Beatrix and Lani actual party members after they realize what they were doing was wrong.

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greengoron89 wrote...

Hey, all game franchises lose steam sooner or later (if they even had any in the first place) - even the ones we all know and love. I wouldn't sweat it too much.

...I would like a half-decent remake of FFVII, though. People have been clamoring for one for years since Square made the mistake of showing a PS3 tech demo using the game's opening scene, and I say they should give 'em what they want. I'd certainly be down for a good remake (especially with realistic looking characters and a better translated script - both of which the original lacked).


I'd like to see VI, that was the best one IMHO.  Would be great to see it in 3D. 

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Aaleel wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Hey, all game franchises lose steam sooner or later (if they even had any in the first place) - even the ones we all know and love. I wouldn't sweat it too much.

...I would like a half-decent remake of FFVII, though. People have been clamoring for one for years since Square made the mistake of showing a PS3 tech demo using the game's opening scene, and I say they should give 'em what they want. I'd certainly be down for a good remake (especially with realistic looking characters and a better translated script - both of which the original lacked).


I'd like to see VI, that was the best one IMHO.  Would be great to see it in 3D. 


agreed FFVI is the one thats needs a remake.

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I'd like to order one FFVI remake please along with a proper Chrono, Mana, and Vagrant story sequels. I like FF7, it is a critical and commercial darling but FF6 > FF7 all day.  Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross were critical successes for Square while Xenogears has the highest metacritic user score at 9.7 for Square titles, but Square wants to make a sequel to a cruddy game? Yeah they are just a shell of their former self.

Modifié par chrisuuuu, 16 décembre 2011 - 01:50 .


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RPGamer13 wrote...

Some Geth wrote...

Oh and by the way I don't think I need to play FFXIII-2(but I will:unsure:) since it looks like what XIII should of been and still looks like it has the bad "gameplay"(if you want to call it that) of XIII.


From what I can tell all they did was make it so if the party leader dies, it's not game over, and added Quick Time Events.  To me, the only reason I thought XIII's combat was so bad is because once the leader died it meant game over.


Yea I have to agree with this. I only hated FFXIII's combat for two main reasons:

1) Leader dies and it's game over
2) The enemies outside of boss battles weren't much of a challenge after a while.

I think all they needed to do with FFXIII's combat was combine their ideas with FFXII's idea of "If your leader dies, it switches it over to someone else". Then it wouldn't have been so bad.

I loved the Paradigm system in FFXIII though, but I also liked how FFXII's combat happened in the world itself.  Maybe they should've been combined in some way? I dunno.

All in all though, I think I'm going to love FFXIII's improved gameplay.

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chrisuuuu wrote...

Square wants to make a sequel to a cruddy game? Yeah they are just a shell of their former self.


you may not have liked it but alot of other people did. Japanese fans wanted a sqeuel and they got one. SE only(mostly) cares about their Japnese fanbase. the fact people like their game outside of japan is merely a bonus.

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The FFIV remake for DS was excellent - I'd love to see FFVI remade in a similar fashion.

FFVII though does deserve a remake, truly - if it were to have an art style like that of Advent Children, an orchestrated soundtrack, and a cleaned up and better translated script...

...as long as my favorite line in the entire game doesn't change.

"Shut up! Sit your ass down in that chair and drink your goddamn TEA!"

No major game play tweaks, either - the Materia system was awesome, and I prefer it above the other battle systems in the series. *glares at FFVIII's Junction system*

And you know what, chris? Chrono Trigger deserves a remake, seriously - more than FFVII, I'd say. I'd love to relive the epic showdown with Magus in 3D with an orchestrated version of Magus' theme. It would be glorious.

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DeathDragon185 wrote...

chrisuuuu wrote...

Square wants to make a sequel to a cruddy game? Yeah they are just a shell of their former self.


you may not have liked it but alot of other people did. Japanese fans wanted a sqeuel and they got one. SE only(mostly) cares about their Japnese fanbase. the fact people like their game outside of japan is merely a bonus.


and it's not working. everyone was clamoring for Square to release a FF on the next generation system. they didn't have the huge output they had during the 90s, where they were releasing GEMS every year. So it's not like they had all their resources tied up into making a Einhander, Xenogears, Chrono Cross, FF Tactics, Parasite Eve, etc..And they had 2 systems to release it on this time, PS3 and 360 for a larger customer base. And even after all that FFXIII  sold 6 mil, well short of FF VII's 10 million and also short of FFX. In fact if it wasn't released on two systems, FFXIII would have been short of FFVIII and FFXII's sales too. Have you read the financials concerning Square Enix? They have been taking massive losses all around. And Square Enix Members is hacked and currently down. Fail all around for Square.

Modifié par chrisuuuu, 16 décembre 2011 - 02:08 .


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Blame FFXIV for that one. don't like MMO's that much. FFXIII is a great game no matter what the sales say. FFX and VI sold less than FFVII but both are better than FFVII(in my opinion) but sales aren't everything. does this mean CoD is the greatest game everymade since it sells so well?.

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Blame FFXIV for that one. don't like MMO's that much. FFXIII is a great game no matter what the sales say. FFX and VI sold less than FFVII but both are better than FFVII(in my opinion) but sales aren't everything. does this mean CoD is the greatest game everymade since it sells so well?.


I don't care about sales, the numbers I posted were in response to your reference on how well the Japanese market liked it. Apparently nowhere as near as they liked FFVII and others which were released on one system instead of two and still outsold FFXIII. Ok when your scores from critics are lower than almost every FF. And your scores from users are lower than just about every other FF. And your sales are lower than other FF. And you get flack from all corners of the Square followers. So that covers dissapointment from critics and the general public along with longtime Square fans. All we are missing are farm animals, but I'm guessing probably they would try to attack and defecate on Snow.

Modifié par chrisuuuu, 16 décembre 2011 - 05:01 .


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Yeah even in Japan the fans did not care about FFXIII like they did for past games.

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ok this argument is getting us nowhere. FFXIII is game a game that some people loved and some people hated and lets leave it at that. and we are supposed to be talking about it's sequel.



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I'd do something really crazy if it meant getting a IX remake.

DeathDragon185 wrote...

ok this argument is getting us nowhere. FFXIII is game a game that some people loved and some people hated and lets leave it at that. and we are supposed to be talking about it's sequel.


You have a point, ets talk about the game itself rather than it's prequel and what we think of SE at the moment.

Modifié par Arcadian Legend, 16 décembre 2011 - 03:56 .


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One positive: Serah's weapon can actually become a sword

One negative: It's probably like Lightning's weapon and only becomes a sword during certain attacks.

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RPGamer13 wrote...

One positive: Serah's weapon can actually become a sword

One negative: It's probably like Lightning's weapon and only becomes a sword during certain attacks.


I hear that it depends on the paradigm tuning, or the distance to the enemy. Can't remember which.

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Plot doesn't really look very special but the game itself looks fun. That's all I'm really asking.

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Not ashamed to continue claiming VII is the best even all these years past the beginnings of the "VII is popular so I love to hate it" trends (no offense to those who genuinely dislike it) but pretty much any of the games sans II and III are fairly well worth playing to this day, up until recently. The newest line from the more fresh-faced writers and directors hasn't really gripped me, but my girlfriend is getting XIII-2 so I'll just watch her play it and see if it can win me over when XIII failed to do so.

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Arcadian Legend wrote...

I'd do something really crazy if it meant getting a IX remake.


I'm actually of the opinion that IX requires a remake far less than any other game in the series, not counting XII and XIII, obviously. There's something about its color pallet that just works for me.

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JeffZero wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

I'd do something really crazy if it meant getting a IX remake.


I'm actually of the opinion that IX requires a remake far less than any other game in the series, not counting XII and XIII, obviously. There's something about its color pallet that just works for me.


Oh no, IX is fine as it is, I'm just being greedy. :devil:

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Haha, fair enough.

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Same here. And originally, I wasn't going to play it because of the way it looked on the game case.

Funny story: I had received both IX and VIII for christmas the same year and from looks alone, though I was going to love VIII, while hating IX. But the opposite turned out true.

I just don't like the setting for VIII and the only characters I cared about were Zell, Selphie, and Quistis. While IX, I liked almost all the party members and love that the setting is more colorful and more medieval looking than modern.

With VII, I hadn't played any other final fantasy, so I had nothing to compare it to so I liked it a lot. To this day, overall I liked the story and the characters, but the setting is just not something I'm fond of.


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I hear that it depends on the paradigm tuning, or the distance to the enemy. Can't remember which.


Well, I would hope that with the Commando paradigm it'd be sword all the way.

Modifié par RPGamer13, 16 décembre 2011 - 05:34 .