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[shinobi602]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

It's not about women having breasts, for eff's sake, so all the snide remarks along those lines can just go back in all your pie-holes. 

It's about mysterious changes in appearance made to female characters in sequels.

It's about the armor being needlessly molded into individual cups, and those getting bigger in each game, in a blatant and purile stab at sexual marketing.  In ME2, the Kestrel armor "left room", while in ME3, it looks like they've doubled or tripled that area in volume and remolded it to appear more obviously like a well-filled sweater.

It's about how female characters in games are so rarely just characters in their own right, and even the best seem to be required by the industry to also be sexual objects.

For eff's sake, femShep had largely avoided that, and then BOOM, "Herp derp, let's stick her in a cocktail dress lol."

That would be true if Ashley was a shallow character with nothing deeper to delve into about her, and is only a sex object. However we know this is definitely not the case. She has many interesting aspects to her character. She's not seen just as meat. She's one of Bioware's best developed characters in my humble opinion. Whether you like or not, women in general in the real world DO like to look good, smell good, etc. Why should Ashley be any different?

So how in the hell is Ashley not a character in her own right? This changes nothing about her. If anything that damn Kestrel armor is totally unrealistic. An extremely flat metal chest piece? Would seem very uncomfortable to me. There is no room there.

Your complaint about Shepard's dress is unfounded. What about the context of it? It was obvious reasons. Male Shepard got a suit, female Shepard got a classy dress.

Modifié par shinobi602, 16 décembre 2011 - 03:32 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

Takio wrote...

Lol, all the men are sexual objects. 

I don't notice it, so I guess that means I'm straight, right?  


Anyway, for those who don't understand why this is more than just "prudery", please read the linked article.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/11/the-psychology-of-nakedness/

[didymos1120]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...


For eff's sake, femShep had largely avoided that, and then BOOM, "Herp derp, let's stick her in a cocktail dress lol."

Right.  Because the cocktail dress was:

a. Soooo revealing.
b. Not at all context-appropriate.

[Arkitekt]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Anyway, for those who don't understand why this is more than just "prudery", please read the linked article.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/11/the-psychology-of-nakedness/

Annnnd that's the kind of pseudo-scientific bullpoop that I cringe whenever someone dares to link to it, right there. Filled with pseudo-semantical dribble as well. Very nice.

[Killjoy Cutter]

didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...


For eff's sake, femShep had largely avoided that, and then BOOM, "Herp derp, let's stick her in a cocktail dress lol."

Right.  Because the cocktail dress was:

a. Soooo revealing.
b. Not at all context-appropriate.

c. Forced and out of character for at least some Sheps.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Arkitekt wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Anyway, for those who don't understand why this is more than just "prudery", please read the linked article.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/11/the-psychology-of-nakedness/

Annnnd that's the kind of pseudo-scientific bullpoop that I cringe whenever someone dares to link to it, right there. Filled with pseudo-semantical dribble as well. Very nice.

I'm sure the scientists who did the experiments the article is reporting on will be very disappointed to know that they didn't pass your "peer" review, LoL.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 16 décembre 2011 - 03:39 .

[MELTOR13]

I'm pretty sure BSN might be the place where fun souls go to die. They are then replaced by whiny, irritable people who are never capable of being happy about anything. Sad, really.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Oh, yes, that's it, whenever someone says they dislike something or are disappointed, it's really just because they're whiney and irritable.  No one ever had a legitimate concern or criticism of anything.  We should all be happy sunny people without a care every single moment of every day, because everything is actually awesome and fun![/sarcasm]

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 16 décembre 2011 - 03:41 .

[MELTOR13]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Oh, yes, that's it, whenever someone says they disile something or are disappointed, it's really just because they're whiney and irritable.

Yes.

[Killjoy Cutter]

MELTOR13 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Oh, yes, that's it, whenever someone says they disile something or are disappointed, it's really just because they're whiney and irritable.

Yes.

Nice misquote, jackwagon. (removing the sarcasm tag)

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 16 décembre 2011 - 03:42 .

[MELTOR13]

See?? There's that irritable thing again.

[Killjoy Cutter]

No, it's disgust at people thinking it's funny or clever to misquote what others have said. Grow up.

[emanziboy]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...


For eff's sake, femShep had largely avoided that, and then BOOM, "Herp derp, let's stick her in a cocktail dress lol."

Right.  Because the cocktail dress was:

a. Soooo revealing.
b. Not at all context-appropriate.

c. Forced and out of character for at least some Sheps.

She was sneaking into a party using a fake identity. Isn't being out of character the whole point?

Modifié par emanziboy, 16 décembre 2011 - 03:48 .

[MELTOR13]

At least you are true to your name, killjoy. Good God.

-hates boobies? *check*
-lacks of any sense of humor? *double check*
-RAGE mode engaged over minute details? *check*

yes, standard BSN member. You've passed the test, congratulations.

[Double_02]

I think her new look is fine, both head and armor. I'd be fine if they kept her original model from ME1.

Her armor looks nice, and would be nice if we could customize it along with other Squadmate's armor.

She is a well developed character and has grown on me just like every other teammate has.

Modifié par Double_02, 16 décembre 2011 - 04:42 .

[shinobi602]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Oh, yes, that's it, whenever someone says they dislike something or are disappointed, it's really just because they're whiney and irritable.  No one ever had a legitimate concern or criticism of anything. 

You certainly don't.

[didymos1120]

emanziboy wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...


For eff's sake, femShep had largely avoided that, and then BOOM, "Herp derp, let's stick her in a cocktail dress lol."

Right.  Because the cocktail dress was:

a. Soooo revealing.
b. Not at all context-appropriate.

c. Forced and out of character for at least some Sheps.

She was sneaking into a party using a fake identity. Isn't being out of character the whole point?

Yup.  As evidenced by the fact that both M and FemShep weren't too keen on their respective outfits and were eager to armor back up at the first opportunity.

[Killjoy Cutter]

And your assertion that I, ahem, "hate boobies" shows that you're just taking shots without any concern for the actual content of my posts or my thoughts on the matter at hand.

One need not "hate boobies" to comprehend that the primary function of females is not, in fact, to show off their "boobies" for one's juvenille gratification.

Never mind that you're aparently incapable of comprehending that someone could experience dislike, concern, disappointment, disgust, and other states without "RAGE".

[Killjoy Cutter]

shinobi602 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Oh, yes, that's it, whenever someone says they dislike something or are disappointed, it's really just because they're whiney and irritable.  No one ever had a legitimate concern or criticism of anything. 

You certainly don't.

Oh, how clever of you. 

Grow up.

[didymos1120]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Oh, yes, that's it, whenever someone says they dislike something or are disappointed, it's really just because they're whiney and irritable.  No one ever had a legitimate concern or criticism of anything. 

You certainly don't.

Oh, how clever of you. 

Grow up.

And this "NO U" stuff from you is more mature how exactly?

[Killjoy Cutter]

emanziboy wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

For eff's sake, femShep had largely avoided that, and then BOOM, "Herp derp, let's stick her in a cocktail dress lol."

Right.  Because the cocktail dress was:

a. Soooo revealing.
b. Not at all context-appropriate.

c. Forced and out of character for at least some Sheps.

She was sneaking into a party using a fake identity. Isn't being out of character the whole point?

And it could have been done without the minidress.  Instead, we get that cliched commedy schtick of putting the toughest female character in the piece into the getup to play to the lolz, and a blatant "boobshot" during the car ride to play to the teenage boys.  All sorts of formal attire might have been appropriate for "Allison Gunn"... but nope, gotta get that minidress in. 

[Killjoy Cutter]

didymos1120 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Oh, yes, that's it, whenever someone says they dislike something or are disappointed, it's really just because they're whiney and irritable.  No one ever had a legitimate concern or criticism of anything. 

You certainly don't.

Oh, how clever of you. 

Grow up.

And this "NO U" stuff from you is more mature how exactly?

Oh look, another opportunistic shot, how surprising coming from someone opposed to my position on the matter.

[MELTOR13]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Never mind that you're aparently incapable of comprehending that someone could experience dislike, concern, disappointment, disgust, and other states without "RAGE".

I just don't see the point in so much complaining. It's not as if BioWare is going to sit down over this thread and say, "You know what? This Killjoy guy is right. Ashley's boobs look too big. We should tone them down." 

You just seem to be the type of guy/girl who's incapable of happy thought. Like, the ultimate Debbie Downer. Instead of being even slightly happy that BioWare finally provided a screenshot of Ashley in armor after months and months of, ahem, "requests"....the first thing you jump to is a complaint. It's depressing. I would hate to live my life always looking at the bad side of things. Just take a chill-pill and relax. Ashley supposedly gaining a cup size or two isn't going to shatter your universe. Considering no one freaked out when she was in her 'casual' suit, it's very likely that it's just the armor type that makes them look larger. With that I'll leave you though. Good day, sir/madam.

[Killjoy Cutter]

I've said more than once that "at least Ashley is in armor, so it's an improvement over several characters in ME2".

I didn't say that Ashley was "too big". My complaint is that the armor appears more and more designed to arrouse and titilate with each new sequel, more and more to just be "iconic" for marketing purposes, and less and less around practical considerations of protecting the wearer in combat.

If I do come across as ragey, it's because the people trying to shoot down my posts aren't even responding to what I'm saying, they're making up nonsense that has nothing to do with what I've actually said.