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[AdmiralCheez]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Perhaps. If so I wonder what Kaiden's alternate hairstyle would be, if he has one.


-Polite

I'm trying to imagine what his pomp looks like deflated.

Does not compute.

[HolyAvenger]

Alternate hairstyles? What is this, Mass Effect Barbie?

[shepskisaac]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

Perhaps. If so I wonder what Kaiden's alternate hairstyle would be, if he has one.


-Polite

Kaidan's hairstyle is too iconic to have any alternative.

[Iakus]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

So if Ash gets armor like Kaidan's, Kaidan totally gets something like this, right?



(Click image for artist.)

Hey, if Ash is wearing the Spectre unifiorm, then he has to wear something similar to her, right? 

The pitfalls of "stylish" being the reason for change. 

[Rovay]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Alternate hairstyles? What is this, Mass Effect Barbie?

I think Galaxy at War Dating Sim would fit it slightly better.

[Vapaa]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

The point is the double standard between dudes and dudettes in video games.

Well I don't find Mass effect that guilty of making double-standards, in fact ME1 didn't make double standards at all, is ME2 who is guilty, but not so much.

[AdmiralCheez]

Vapaä wrote...

Well I don't find Mass effect that guilty of making double-standards, in fact ME1 didn't make double standards at all, is ME2 who is guilty, but not so much.

Hence me bringing up Thane and Jacob, who kind of reversed (or at least equalized) the trope.  It's games in general, not so much ME that I was talking about.

[Ottemis]

Vapaä wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

The point is the double standard between dudes and dudettes in video games.

Well I don't find Mass effect that guilty of making double-standards, in fact ME1 didn't make double standards at all, is ME2 who is guilty, but not so much.

Yeah Jacob wasen't at all sexualised. Or what about Thane? They spent months going round the office asking for girls opinions while creating him so he'd be attractive to females.

nm, just read this:

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Vapaä wrote...

Well I
don't find Mass effect that guilty of making double-standards, in fact ME1 didn't make double standards at all, is ME2 who is guilty, but not so much.

Hence me bringing up Thane and Jacob, who kind of reversed (or at least equalized) the trope.  It's games in general, not so much ME that I was talking about.

And yes, agreed.

At the end of the day though, aside from them needing a recognizable personal look, both the male and female characters are also designed for their sex-appeal, having the option to romance some of them. Makes sense to me you'd make them visually appealing. Asmuch as you might like your mate, even when he's dressed in a garbagebag or tin can, some nice-looking clothes, especially form-fitting are much preferrable.

Modifié par Ottemis, 18 décembre 2011 - 06:41 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

Since when are form-fitting clothes preferable in a general sense?

[Ottemis]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Since when are form-fitting clothes preferable in a general sense?

They are to me, if you'd rather not, then that's fine too.
Globally though, it is preferred in therms of sex-appeal.. or rather, seems to be.

You can't judge someone's character before you know them, so physical attraction is important to consider when you're designing a look for a romanceable character, as it is IRL.

Modifié par Ottemis, 18 décembre 2011 - 06:43 .

[1136342t54_]

Ottemis wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Since when are form-fitting clothes preferable in a general sense?

They are to me, if you'd rather not, then that's fine too.
Globally though, it is preferred in therms of sex-appeal.. or rather, seems to be.

You can't judge someone's character before you know them, so physical attraction is important to consider when you're designing a look for a romanceable character, as it is IRL.

Wasn't technically the ME Ashley outfit tighter than this one. At least it seemed to be around the torso.

[Vapaa]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Hence me bringing up Thane and Jacob, who kind of reversed (or at least equalized) the trope.  It's games in general, not so much ME that I was talking about.

I agree, but I still find women more sexualized in ME2, Jacob and Thane kind of balanced that, through.

Modifié par Vapaä, 18 décembre 2011 - 06:53 .

[Nashiktal]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Since when are form-fitting clothes preferable in a general sense?

Whenever you work in a job that non form fitting clothes would snag. Like working on computers or any hands-on engineering job in general.

[1136342t54_]

Nashiktal wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Since when are form-fitting clothes preferable in a general sense?

Whenever you work in a job that non form fitting clothes would snag. Like working on computers or any hands-on engineering job in general.

This that is why you do see some engineers in ME wear some pretty form fitting clothes.

[Ottemis]

1136342t54 wrote...

Ottemis wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Since when are form-fitting clothes preferable in a general sense?

They are to me, if you'd rather not, then that's fine too.
Globally though, it is preferred in therms of sex-appeal.. or rather, seems to be.

You can't judge someone's character before you know them, so physical attraction is important to consider when you're designing a look for a romanceable character, as it is IRL.

Wasn't technically the ME Ashley outfit tighter than this one. At least it seemed to be around the torso.

It's a general remark, not specific for Ashley, though as a general observation it's obvious they tweaked her look to (also) up her appeal. Maybe it's Bioware's way of making up for Horizon a tad too =P
Anyways Ashley's setup shows her curves off well enough. It's not like it needs to be a second skin kinda thing aslong as clothes emphasize natural lines/curves, the armor does this aswell.
The hair and make-up are a nice touch I think.

[Nashiktal]

Vapaä wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Hence me bringing up Thane and Jacob, who kind of reversed (or at least equalized) the trope.  It's games in general, not so much ME that I was talking about.

I agree, but I still find women way more sexualized in ME2, Jacob and Thane kind of balanced that, through.

Hell I don't even have a problem with most of the sexualization as it usually fits the character. I mainly had problems with all the exposed skin in.... Not so optimal environs. Thane, as an example, has to keep his chest clear for his condition (and he never was a footsoldier, but an assassin who during normal "operations" would never be in a straight up fight.

And despite what people say you were indeed in a vacuume inside the collector ship. The ship was completely powered down, and if you look behind you at the very beginning you see space.

Not that vacuume was the only thing harmful to skin, like that planet full of poison gas? Yeah.

[1136342t54_]

Nashiktal wrote...

Vapaä wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Hence me bringing up Thane and Jacob, who kind of reversed (or at least equalized) the trope.  It's games in general, not so much ME that I was talking about.

I agree, but I still find women way more sexualized in ME2, Jacob and Thane kind of balanced that, through.

Hell I don't even have a problem with most of the sexualization as it usually fits the character. I mainly had problems with all the exposed skin in.... Not so optimal environs. Thane, as an example, has to keep his chest clear for his condition (and he never was a footsoldier, but an assassin who during normal "operations" would never be in a straight up fight.

And despite what people say you were indeed in a vacuume inside the collector ship. The ship was completely powered down, and if you look behind you at the very beginning you see space.

Not that vacuume was the only thing harmful to skin, like that planet full of poison gas? Yeah.

The Collector ship was never completely powered down. It couldn't have been to be able to activate most of its systems so damn quickly. Hell it couldn't even be exposed to vacuum. If it was items would be floating around everywhere due to no gravity. It had some sort of environment and limited KB shielding to keep the environment in someway.

[HolyAvenger]

Any time anything in a ME game doesn't quite make sense...a mass effect field did it. So yeah Collector Ship? Mass effect fields active and keeping an atmosphere.

[100k]

Nashiktal wrote...

Vapaä wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Hence me bringing up Thane and Jacob, who kind of reversed (or at least equalized) the trope.  It's games in general, not so much ME that I was talking about.

I agree, but I still find women way more sexualized in ME2, Jacob and Thane kind of balanced that, through.

Hell I don't even have a problem with most of the sexualization as it usually fits the character. I mainly had problems with all the exposed skin in.... Not so optimal environs. Thane, as an example, has to keep his chest clear for his condition (and he never was a footsoldier, but an assassin who during normal "operations" would never be in a straight up fight.

And despite what people say you were indeed in a vacuume inside the collector ship. The ship was completely powered down, and if you look behind you at the very beginning you see space.

Not that vacuume was the only thing harmful to skin, like that planet full of poison gas? Yeah.

Well, to fair the collector ship isn't a great example of level design. For example, the entire ship is supposed to be entirely exposed to vacuum, right? Well then how can the collectors fly with insect wings? Doesn't that imply some kind of air?

And anyways, vacuum isn't going to have too serious an effect on your skin. I think there was at least one human who was exposed to vacuum, while repairing equipment on the space station.

Plus, for Thane and Grunt, exposure to vacuum isn't lethal when in relation to radiation and UV rays. I believe that krell have special throats that are (for some reason) able to expand to allow them to survive in space (I could be wrong), and Wrex makes a comment about "redundant nervous systems" that makes me think that krogan just need a basic breathing mask.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

Tsk tsk. Yall will always find something to complain about. There's just no pleasing the citizens of the internet.

[Nashiktal]

100k wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

Vapaä wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Hence me bringing up Thane and Jacob, who kind of reversed (or at least equalized) the trope.  It's games in general, not so much ME that I was talking about.

I agree, but I still find women way more sexualized in ME2, Jacob and Thane kind of balanced that, through.

Hell I don't even have a problem with most of the sexualization as it usually fits the character. I mainly had problems with all the exposed skin in.... Not so optimal environs. Thane, as an example, has to keep his chest clear for his condition (and he never was a footsoldier, but an assassin who during normal "operations" would never be in a straight up fight.

And despite what people say you were indeed in a vacuume inside the collector ship. The ship was completely powered down, and if you look behind you at the very beginning you see space.

Not that vacuume was the only thing harmful to skin, like that planet full of poison gas? Yeah.

Well, to fair the collector ship isn't a great example of level design. For example, the entire ship is supposed to be entirely exposed to vacuum, right? Well then how can the collectors fly with insect wings? Doesn't that imply some kind of air?

And anyways, vacuum isn't going to have too serious an effect on your skin. I think there was at least one human who was exposed to vacuum, while repairing equipment on the space station.

Plus, for Thane and Grunt, exposure to vacuum isn't lethal when in relation to radiation and UV rays. I believe that krell have special throats that are (for some reason) able to expand to allow them to survive in space (I could be wrong), and Wrex makes a comment about "redundant nervous systems" that makes me think that krogan just need a basic breathing mask.

Actually vacuum is very dangerous to your skin. Short periods of time? Sure, but extended trips (and for vacuume exposure minutes IS extended) during heavy activity? Yeah no. Hell there is even the risk of cancer.

I will agree that the level design and story for the collector ship was a confused mess though.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 18 décembre 2011 - 07:51 .

[MegaBadExample]

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Tsk tsk. Yall will always find something to complain about. There's just no pleasing the citizens of the internet.

I know, right.

B*st*rds.

[Nashiktal]

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Tsk tsk. Yall will always find something to complain about. There's just no pleasing the citizens of the internet.

No such thing as perfection, and we are completey within our right to criticize.

[1136342t54_]

Nashiktal wrote...

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

Tsk tsk. Yall will always find something to complain about. There's just no pleasing the citizens of the internet.

No such thing as perfection, and we are completey within our right to criticize.

Criticise sure but since the last like 10 pages were basically derailing this thread then at that point make new thread to continue your criticism.

[1136342t54_]

Nashiktal wrote...

Actually vacuum is very dangerous to your skin. Short periods of time? Sure, but extended trips (and for vacuume exposure minutes IS extended) during heavy activity? Yeah no. Hell there is even the risk of cancer.

I will agree that the level design and story for the collector ship was a confused mess though.

The ship was likely not in a vacuum or even totally powered down. From what I gathered it was just enough so that gravity and a reasonable yet very low temperature was still present (I doubt Collectors need to really survive in warm environments) the ship wasn't dead but it was playing very close to death. 

Basically someone like jack wearing no armor but a mask probably shouldn't stay on the ship due to possibly freezing to death. Miranda or Jacob wouldn't want to stay on there too long either. Krogan wouldn't give a **** really. Even if it was a vacuum Grunt would probably love to fight on that ship to test his skillz. Thane probably not unless he has that upgraded DLC armor.