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[Killjoy Cutter]

Regarding human exposure to vacuum:

 http://imagine.gsfc....ers/970603.html

 http://en.wikipedia..../Space_exposure

 http://www.aerospace...ere/q0291.shtml

If all the companions get real armor or are at least wearing gear suited to the various environments they encounter, I will give Bioware full credit for an improvement over many of ME2s clothing blunders.

(Seperate issue from the gratuitous sexualization trend.)

(Also, seperate issue from the fact that, yes, some ME1 armors looked rediculous too.)

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 18 décembre 2011 - 08:44 .

[CptData]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Regarding human exposure to vacuum:

 http://imagine.gsfc....ers/970603.html

 http://en.wikipedia..../Space_exposure

 http://www.aerospace...ere/q0291.shtml

If all the companions get real armor or are at least wearing gear suited to the various environments they encounter, I will give Bioware full credit for an improvement over many of ME2s clothing blunders.

(Seperate issue from the gratuitous sexualization trend.)

(Also, seperate issue from the fact that, yes, some ME1 armors looked rediculous too.)

Interesting links, thank you.

[Ghost-621]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Regarding human exposure to vacuum:

 http://imagine.gsfc....ers/970603.html

 http://en.wikipedia..../Space_exposure

 http://www.aerospace...ere/q0291.shtml

If all the companions get real armor or are at least wearing gear suited to the various environments they encounter, I will give Bioware full credit for an improvement over many of ME2s clothing blunders.

(Seperate issue from the gratuitous sexualization trend.)

(Also, seperate issue from the fact that, yes, some ME1 armors looked rediculous too.)

Thank you for the interesting links. Wonderful reads right there.

Also, I will forgive them for the blatant "boobies hurr" outfits if they do the suits in this one correctly.

If I am on a planet which has a hostile enviornment, my team better be wearing a full, sealed suit. No more flowing hair and strap-bra in an acidic atmosphere. If that happens, I don't want to see any skin. Literally. I mean I want to see it burned off. Choices have consequences people.

In space, exposed skin is not a deadly thing, but having exposed ears, nose, mouth, or eyes would be harmful to the human body. I want intelligent outfitting to return.

Yes, a few of the outfits in ME1 looked silly, but at least they were space/hostile environment suits that looked like they could actually take a few bullets.

EDIT: Forgive me. Having exposed skin would be harmful. Exposed skin to unshielded/unhindered UV Radiation would result in extreme radiation burns, and there is a chance of painful swelling due to the "bending" in tissues beneath the skin.

Modifié par Ghost-621, 18 décembre 2011 - 11:47 .

[shepskisaac]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Regarding human exposure to vacuum:

 http://imagine.gsfc....ers/970603.html

 http://en.wikipedia..../Space_exposure

 http://www.aerospace...ere/q0291.shtml

If all the companions get real armor or are at least wearing gear suited to the various environments they encounter, I will give Bioware full credit for an improvement over many of ME2s clothing blunders.

(Seperate issue from the gratuitous sexualization trend.)

(Also, seperate issue from the fact that, yes, some ME1 armors looked rediculous too.)

Look, this is a space opera, not a military simulator and scientific documentary

[Ghost-621]

IsaacShep wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Regarding human exposure to vacuum:

 http://imagine.gsfc....ers/970603.html

 http://en.wikipedia..../Space_exposure

 http://www.aerospace...ere/q0291.shtml

If all the companions get real armor or are at least wearing gear suited to the various environments they encounter, I will give Bioware full credit for an improvement over many of ME2s clothing blunders.

(Seperate issue from the gratuitous sexualization trend.)

(Also, seperate issue from the fact that, yes, some ME1 armors looked rediculous too.)

Look, this is a space opera, not a military simulator and scientific documentary

ME1 was a space opera, and it had fully-sealed suits.

Modifié par Ghost-621, 19 décembre 2011 - 12:20 .

[Ghost-621]

Arcian wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Regarding human exposure to vacuum:

 http://imagine.gsfc....ers/970603.html

 http://en.wikipedia..../Space_exposure

 http://www.aerospace...ere/q0291.shtml

If all the companions get real armor or are at least wearing gear suited to the various environments they encounter, I will give Bioware full credit for an improvement over many of ME2s clothing blunders.

(Seperate issue from the gratuitous sexualization trend.)

(Also, seperate issue from the fact that, yes, some ME1 armors looked rediculous too.)

Interestings links, but I can't really remember squadmates ever being in a pure vacuum in ME2. Do the same rules apply if they are in non-oxygenated atmospheres wearing masks? The radiation problem is diminished if the exposure time is short, I think.

The only thing I can recall from ME2 that's bordering on a pure vacuum is Kopis, the moon in Firewalker where you find the prothean sphere. It's mentioned that Kopis has an atmosphere, it's just very thin, so it's still not a pure vacuum.

Generally, I agree that ME2's clothes were very unrealistic. Even if the problems might not be that pronounced, it's always best to stay on the safe side. TIM's a stingy bastard who bother to procure proper suits for the whole team.

EDIT: Forgot about heat problems. Yeah, ME2's mask solution doesn't work at all.

IF and only IF they were exposed with some form of shielding, would the problem be diminished. If not, you are being hit, full force, by intense ultraviolet thermal radiation. You will be burned to a crisp, and it will be probably one of the most painful ways to go. Google "bubbling sunburn." Think of that times...a hundred.

There were a few instances where they were in vacuum environments, and there were more than one hostile environment worlds. Remember that acid one? I'm going to keep bringing that one up, because it's rediculous how Bioware just stopped putting thought into it. It insults my intelligence that they stooped that low.

EDIT: Yes, think of that bubbling sunburn times 100. Our atmosphere's ozone layer blocks out 98.7% of UV radiation.

Modifié par Ghost-621, 19 décembre 2011 - 12:05 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

IsaacShep wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Regarding human exposure to vacuum:

 http://imagine.gsfc....ers/970603.html

 http://en.wikipedia..../Space_exposure

 http://www.aerospace...ere/q0291.shtml

If all the companions get real armor or are at least wearing gear suited to the various environments they encounter, I will give Bioware full credit for an improvement over many of ME2s clothing blunders.

(Seperate issue from the gratuitous sexualization trend.)

(Also, seperate issue from the fact that, yes, some ME1 armors looked rediculous too.)

Look, this is a space opera, not a military simulator and scientific documentary

I wasn't aware that space opera required WTF moments and insulting the intelligence of the viewer...

[Iakus]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Regarding human exposure to vacuum:

 http://imagine.gsfc....ers/970603.html

 http://en.wikipedia..../Space_exposure

 http://www.aerospace...ere/q0291.shtml

If all the companions get real armor or are at least wearing gear suited to the various environments they encounter, I will give Bioware full credit for an improvement over many of ME2s clothing blunders.

(Seperate issue from the gratuitous sexualization trend.)

(Also, seperate issue from the fact that, yes, some ME1 armors looked rediculous too.)

Look, this is a space opera, not a military simulator and scientific documentary

I wasn't aware that space opera required WTF moments and insulting the intelligence of the viewer...

Or that the laws of nature shift from game to game

[Iakus]

NVM  these boards hate me for some reason...

Modifié par iakus, 19 décembre 2011 - 02:31 .

[MACharlie1]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Regarding human exposure to vacuum:

 http://imagine.gsfc....ers/970603.html

 http://en.wikipedia..../Space_exposure

 http://www.aerospace...ere/q0291.shtml

If all the companions get real armor or are at least wearing gear suited to the various environments they encounter, I will give Bioware full credit for an improvement over many of ME2s clothing blunders.

(Seperate issue from the gratuitous sexualization trend.)

(Also, seperate issue from the fact that, yes, some ME1 armors looked rediculous too.)

Look, this is a space opera, not a military simulator and scientific documentary

I wasn't aware that space opera required WTF moments and insulting the intelligence of the viewer...

Actually. Most, if not all, space operas posess both of these. Was Darth Vader being Luke's father not a WTF moment? Did Ewoks not insult the intelligence of the viewer? Just playing devils advocate here. 

[Someone With Mass]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Actually. Most, if not all, space operas posess both of these. Was Darth Vader being Luke's father not a WTF moment? Did Jar Jar Binks not insult the intelligence of the viewer? Just playing devils advocate here. 

Fixed for the best example available. 

[MACharlie1]

Someone With Mass wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Actually. Most, if not all, space operas posess both of these. Was Darth Vader being Luke's father not a WTF moment? Did the entire prequel trilogy not insult the intelligence of the viewer? Just playing devils advocate here. 

Fixed for the best example available. 

Fixed for betterer example. 

[Icinix]

Someone With Mass wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

Actually. Most, if not all, space operas posess both of these. Was Darth Vader being Luke's father not a WTF moment? Did Jar Jar Binks not insult the intelligence of the viewer? Just playing devils advocate here. 

Fixed for the best example available. 

In the interest of fair play - the new Star Wars films should not be allowed to be brought up in debates.

[TheMachdude]

Digging the uniform, but her... face/head region looks... off. I can't really put my finger on it, she looks really... uhhh.... no. . .

[shepskisaac]

Ghost-621 wrote...

ME1 was a space opera, and it had fully-sealed suits.

And a race of universally bisexual space babes that looks exactly like humans save for hair.

[Nashiktal]

IsaacShep wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

ME1 was a space opera, and it had fully-sealed suits.

And a race of universally bisexual space babes that looks exactly like humans save for hair.

Sounds like a space opera to me. At least ME1 deconstructed the blue babe trope, they were fanservice yes but bioware made them so much more as well.

[Sgt Stryker]

Nashiktal wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

ME1 was a space opera, and it had fully-sealed suits.

And a race of universally bisexual space babes that looks exactly like humans save for hair.

Sounds like a space opera to me. At least ME1 deconstructed the blue babe trope, they were fanservice yes but bioware made them so much more as well.

ME2 deconstructed that trope as well, at least to an extent. Say what you want about Samara's outfit, but it also gave us characters like Aria and Matriarch Aethyta.

[didymos1120]

Sgt Stryker wrote...

ME2 deconstructed that trope as well, at least to an extent. Say what you want about Samara's outfit, but it also gave us characters like Aria and Matriarch Aethyta.

Plus Morinth, Wasea, Enyala, Elnora and all the other fine, upstanding Eclipse sisters of Ilium, and the reappearance of Ms. Dantius, where she behaved even worse than she did in ME1. Actually, just make that "the entire planet of Ilium".

[CroGamer002]

didymos1120 wrote...

Sgt Stryker wrote...

ME2 deconstructed that trope as well, at least to an extent. Say what you want about Samara's outfit, but it also gave us characters like Aria and Matriarch Aethyta.

Plus Morinth, Wasea, Enyala, Elnora and all the other fine, upstanding Eclipse sisters of Ilium, and the reappearance of Ms. Dantius, where she behaved even worse than she did in ME1. Actually, just make that "the entire planet of Ilium".

And in the end, I still think she's the best ME1 Asari character.

[HolyAvenger]

Tela Vasir, best asari/boss ever.

[TheKillerAngel]

Nashiktal wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

http://madartlab.com...-and-lady-bits/

Sums it all up rather nicely. It even has Mass Effect in it.

Hey I remember that guy commenting in the kotaku blog article (or was it destructoid? Gonna stick with kotaku) and he made a very brief summary of this article he made.

Although for the sake of accuracy, that night elf armor pic at the top of the page was not made by blizzard.

Actually it was.

[Zanallen]

iakus wrote...

I was close: it's Solid Snake

You mean David "The Guyver" Hayter?

[Rockworm503]

GAH there's a speck of dust on her left shoulder!!! This game is ruined and I'm cancelling my preorder!